Supervillain Tag-Team Showdown: Namor & Hawkeye vs. Aquaman & Green Arrow

[batnkevlar]

So Namor's as powerful as PreCrisis Superman? Cuz that list of powers is ****in huge and gives every reason why Namor should be the most powerful character in Marvel...

 

[Blaktin America]

So let's go back to Prep-time. Does Namor know he has an aqua-arse to kick?

 

[sojazu]

He's right. Aquaman can run about 200 mph on land and is even faster in water.

I've heard of how Aquaman is real fast, but where did you get that info? I'm curious.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Quoted From The Official Sub-Mariner Thread:


He is listed as being class 100 strength that deteriorates as he dries out but he has that suit that can keep him wet.

He is pretty invunerable as is but also has his Atlantean armor from Neptune which bolsters his invunerability and strength.

He also has Neptunes Trident which allows him to control water, create water elementals, earthquakes, tidal waves, rain, fog etcetera.

He has a limited ability to control marine life, sonar and can create electic blasts light an electric eel.

He can also absorb other forms of energy and use them as electric blasts. He has that horn that gives him total control over all marine life.

He can make mental projections and the Sword of Kamuu is as powerful as the Ebony Blade and can negate any magic even that of Dr. Strange, it also make him stronger and enchanted.

He can fly and has heightened sences and reflexes.

And the class 100 strength for Namor is in the water, not out. Just saying.

A buttload of the things you listed are "equipment" he has access to. That doesn't mean he often uses them or will in this fight. Not like any of us said Aquaman would be using Poseidon's trident or the armor he used in OWAW.

Also, the marine life thing isn't anything like Aquaman's. Also, Aquaman's mental abilities have expanded beyond Marine life. Either way, Namor falls under the category of marine life. Also, the marine life "control" thing Namor possessed (past tense) was related to him doing the electricty thing last time I checked. Bottom line though is he doesn't have those abilities any longer or at least next to never uses. But that wouldn't help him anyway because Aquaman has great resistance to heat and energy type of blasts.

 

[Blaktin America]

Where are all of these great powers listed? And if he can't control anti-social creatures then Namor is in no way affected by his telepathy.

 

[trustyside-kick]

You seemed to have misread. Either way he can mess with Namor with his telepathic powers. Aquaman's telepathy can affect more than just fish. It has expanded. He linked minds with Martian Manhunter to read all the minds on the Earth once, and even has read the minds of his fellow JLAers before. Martian Manhunter then talked to him about "respect amongst telepaths" when he read his mind. So Aquaman can enter Namor's mind, whether he is an "anti-social sea life" or not. Also, that whole "anti-social sea life" refers to when the pirhana ate off his hand. At that point his telepathy wasn't as powerful as now.

 

[Blaktin America]

But aren't those the powers attributed to the predecessor of this rendition of Aquaman?

 

[trustyside-kick]

??

We are, and have been, talking about Orin this whole time. Aquanewb? You thought we were talking about OYL AJ this whole time? Hell no. Namor would wipe the floor with Aquanewb.

At least I think that's what you mean by your comment.

Aside from few appearently, I find it surprising how someone will say Aquaman and immediately know we mean Orin. Yet with other characters like Blue Beetle, automatically I'm thinking of the newest one. Seriously, DC needs to correct their mistake. Aquaman isn't and shouldn't be a legacy hero. I could only see that happening if his son Arthur Junior never died, grew up, and Orin couldn't handle the responsibility anymore. That's the only way I could see him be a legacy hero; it's more king-like.

 

[Kitsune]

He's right. Aquaman can run about 200 mph on land and is even faster in water.

Sources? Or are we pulling this from the Brown Journal again? And Running 200MPS isn't the same as being able to attack three times as often.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Actually, underwater it is the same thing. Because movement is key to laying a hand on your opponent underwater because if you don't move you just float. Because as we all know, it takes more effort to move underwater than above it. Every movement you make underwater you swim to do so.

So Aquaman being able to swim much faster than Namor is a big deal in an underwater fight. He can evade him easier, and strike back easily before Namor could react if he times it right; and Aquaman has always been shown to be intelligent with his tactics. He isn't the "master" strategist, but he's good at that.

Also, when I was saying imagine Aquaman attacking Namor at high speeds...I mean obviously if he was to pull away and evade, swim away real fast, making Namor wonder where he went, only to come back with incredibly force so fast that Namor couldn't evade and he would have to take the damage. Think of the JLU finale episode, where Flash runs around the world so fast and knocks into Luthor each time, same concept but obviously not as fast.

They both may have those "sonar" like senses, but Aquaman would be moving too fast for Namor to know. It's like when a ship is stationary and they have a radar showing a torpedo is coming. If the torpedo is moving so fast, the ship barely has time to try to move away or and evade. That's where the three times faster underwater is key to this fight; evasion and those types of blows. I was never talking about Aquaman being able to punch Namor above or below the water so much faster as he is a mere like foot or 2 away from Namor.

 

[sojazu]

I was never talking about Aquaman being able to punch Namor above or below the water so much faster as he is a mere like foot or 2 away from Namor.

Well, while that may be true. Technically, wouldn't he be able to evade him, and then slug him or knock him down real fast too? Cause him being faster as he evades would be at a point while Namor is still recovering from the forward motions, or whatever motion he makes, of his attack. So in a sense he would be "attacking faster", right?

 

[trustyside-kick]

Well, while that may be true. Technically, wouldn't he be able to evade him, and then slug him or knock him down real fast too? Cause him being faster as he evades would be at a point while Namor is still recovering from the forward motions, or whatever motion he makes, of his attack. So in a sense he would be "attacking faster", right?

Yea, I guess. A reference, no matter how low ranking people put it in case of animes, would be those typical DBZ fights. Where two guys are fighting, and then the other "dissappears" (representing being faster than their advesary), and reappearing (behind of, or to the side of, or in front of) their opponent, while their opponent is still in motion of their previous movement. Then the dude clobbers the guy down into the ground. Not the best analogy, but it works. t:

Also, I must say I'm finally happy there is a Namor VS Aquaman kind of thread that is actually being discussed thuroughly (sp?). Also, it's funny because this is a tag team match, but we have really only been talking about Subby and Orin.

 

[Anubis]

Sources? Or are we pulling this from the Brown Journal again? And Running 200MPS isn't the same as being able to attack three times as often.

Hold your horses dik cheese. I've been busy. It was said at some point or another during PAD's run on Aquaman.

 

[Kitsune]

Hold your horses dik cheese. I've been busy. It was said at some point or another during PAD's run on Aquaman.

Resorting to personal insults, that's a sure sign of using the Brown Journal.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Concerning Modern Age Aquaman, and the fact that he made Modern Age Aquaman, PAD's run is the best. Too bad eventually DC drove him away. He was like the only consistent Aquaman writer.

 

[Anubis]

Resorting to personal insults, that's a sure sign of using the Brown Journal.

Now you're just being a punk ass. Fact is, you're too lazy to find out for sure, and I'm too lazy to dig out issue numbers. So you can continue to disbelieve, and I can continue to think that you're dik cheese. Limburger to be exact.