The Dark Knight TDK too violent says British MP

[hatebox]

We shouldn't be complaining, the guy's giving the film a ton of free publicity. What kid wouldn't want to see it now?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

haha not all of us have austin powers teeth!! i've won awards for my pearly whites.............err maybe im lieing!?!?

 

[chamber-music]

Firstly, for the latter comment:

I nearly had to go on a rant on the reason why those generalisations by American's is the reason why the world.....BUT...I agree with your last bit instead Especially as you have the worse gun and knife crime in the world, I'm surprised you lot aren't more on edge about violence

To be fair 80 complaints out of what, 4.7million+ isn't exactly a high percentage and I love that scene.

For the first comment:

It's lucky we don't need you then! Also, dumb Brits including Bale, Oldman, Caine and Nolan eh?

Oh the girl who's Maroni's missus was in Hollyoaks...so now my stupid arguement fails...hahaHAha!

Commissioner Loeb (Colin McFarlane) is British as was Tom Wilson (Falcone), Thomas Wayne (Linus Roache) Gambol henchman, David Ajala (Gambols bounty hunter and his Flipside from BBC3 show Trexx and Flipside).

Probabley some of the people behind the scenes making BB and TDK where British too.

There is no need for the anti British stuff in this thread. I don't know what some peoples problem is but some of the comments where uncalled for.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea well its as simple as this, if we british are that dumb then there wouldn't of been a TDK. well maybe michael bay could of done it.

 

[hatebox]

Commissioner Loeb (Colin McFarlane) is British as was Tom Wilson (Falcone), Thomas Wayne (Linus Roache) Gambol henchman, David Ajala (Gambols bounty hunter and his Flipside from BBC3 show Trexx and Flipside).

Probabley some of the people behind the scenes making BB and TDK where British too.

There is no need for the anti British stuff in this thread. I don't know what some peoples problem is but some of the comments where uncalled for.

Weren't those three guys, Gad I keep forgetting their names...erm.. Nolan.. bale, Caine... weren't they British too? Or am i thinking of another film?

But yes, criticizing brits is a bit silly if you're a fan of TDK.

 

[TheFuture]

Weren't those three guys, Gad I keep forgetting their names...erm.. Nolan.. bale, Caine... weren't they British too? Or am i thinking of another film?

But yes, criticizing brits is a bit silly if you're a fan of TDK.

Don't forget Oldman......

 

[hatebox]

Don't forget Oldman......

And production designer nathan crowley!

 

[ANTOINE X]

I Wouldn't say the british are soft. Maybe the people want a Rated R but their f***n snob Mp's don't.

 

[danb26]

Commissioner Loeb (Colin McFarlane) is British as was Tom Wilson (Falcone), Thomas Wayne (Linus Roache) Gambol henchman, David Ajala (Gambols bounty hunter and his Flipside from BBC3 show Trexx and Flipside).

Probabley some of the people behind the scenes making BB and TDK where British too.

There is no need for the anti British stuff in this thread. I don't know what some peoples problem is but some of the comments where uncalled for.

- Just re-confirming that I was the person defending our Isle! And I quote below, I don't understand why there would be Brit baiting either.

Maybe some are unable to have a decent conversation? *shrugs*

Weren't those three guys, Gad I keep forgetting their names...erm.. Nolan.. bale, Caine... weren't they British too? Or am i thinking of another film?

But yes, criticizing brits is a bit silly if you're a fan of TDK.

Don't forget Oldman......

And production designer nathan crowley!

- As above!!!

You could even give us Ledger considering we MADE Australia...not literally obviously, we kinda did what the settlers did in the US as well.

Cue Izzard: "What you live here already? No! We don't want any of your food....do you have a flaag?"

....and so on....

 

[TheFuture]

- Just re-confirming that I was the person defending our Isle! And I quote below, I don't understand why there would be Brit baiting either.

Maybe some are unable to have a decent conversation? *shrugs*







- As above!!!

You could even give us Ledger considering we MADE Australia...not literally obviously, we kinda did what the settlers did in the US as well.

Cue Izzard: "What you live here already? No! We don't want any of your food....do you have a flaag?"



....and so on....

I wanted to mention that, but I didn't want to run the risk of offending the Aussies!

 

[danb26]

I wanted to mention that, but I didn't want to run the risk of offending the Aussies!

Heh...see I could edit and say 'Obviously, they've made their own country since and it's ace!'

But I thought..hey ho!

 

[chamber-music]

- Just re-confirming that I was the person defending our Isle! And I quote below, I don't understand why there would be Brit baiting either.

Maybe some are unable to have a decent conversation?

Dude I was backing you up
perhaps I should of quoted the comments as well

 

[hatebox]

nvm

 

[regwec]

I think it's not so much that it's violent, but that, barring one or two small scenes or lines, there's no reprieve from the violence. The movie is brutally intense, and that more than anything I think is the justification. Spider-Man, on the other hand, was much more light-hearted in tone.

Huzzah for a voice of common sense.

Iain Duncan Smith is actually making a fairly valid point, here, and his argument is not against the movie itself (which he commends), but in the leniency of its certificate.

He is absolutely right that the threat and violence seen in TDK is far more convincing and impressive than that seen in its predecessors. Does anyone seriously dispute this? It is one of the reasons the movie has recieved reviews that describe it as "haunting" and "unforgettable". The flipside is that it might upset impressionable young people. That's just a given.

 

[regwec]

Crap, just realised that the thread was referring to the infamously corrupt Keith Vaz rather than the amiably old-fashioned IDS. Oh well.

 

[danb26]

Dude I was backing you up
perhaps I should of quoted the comments as well

I did think so actually bud! Sorry, should have also stated Otherwise you would have got a proper rant...but instead it was half-arsed

 

[Godman]

Batman 89 had more violence and so did lord of the rings and star wars which are all pg13. Star wars has a dude burning alive while you see others sliced in half or beheaded. Indiana Jones movies always had pretty grimy deaths in them. Smallville the TV Show got some VIOLENCE!!!!!!

 

[raleagh]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but a bit of history.

In the UK Batman89 was the first film to be granted a 12 rating upon cinema release. The subsquent video releases have been 15 (due to tighter criteria since viewing is regulated by parents less than cinemas might).

When Spider-man 1 was released it was also given a 12 rating. It was only a few weeks after release, due to the studio and general public saying that kids wanted to see it, that a 12A rating was created.

Personally, I think 12A is a bow down to movie studios by the BBFC - either a film is suitable for someone under 12 or it isn't, regardless of whether an adult is with them. The PG rating is basically being pissed on by the 12A one.

 

[TheFuture]

Crap, just realised that the thread was referring to the infamously corrupt Keith Vaz rather than the amiably old-fashioned IDS. Oh well.

The BBFC had said it themselves, there cannot be any dwelling on violence, blood and injuries for a film to qualify for 12A. There was no dwelling, bar probably Dent's face being set on fire and the subsequent scarring.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I've just realised no one has mentioned this, but kids over here in england probly see fights every day. they might just be little scraps or full blown punch ups with bottles and knives, what i'm trying to say is how can people complain about a film? this country is falling apart anyway i dont think a mildly violent film is really going to change anything.

 

[krisl]

I think a 12 or 12A is a suitable enough rating for the UK. That said, I doubt I'd take my own children unless they were at least 11-12. TDK is most definitely not a children's film in any shape or form.

 

[TheFuture]

I've just realised no one has mentioned this, but kids over here in england probly see fights every day. they might just be little scraps or full blown punch ups with bottles and knives, what i'm trying to say is how can people complain about a film? this country is falling apart anyway i dont think a mildly violent film is really going to change anything.

I've seen the film twice, plenty of kids there on both occasions. None of them were cowering or crying...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

exactly, most of the kids these days see violent stuff everyday. i dont think a film is going to affect them that much.

 

[hatebox]

I want to say it's all BS, but who here can honestly say they were surprised it scraped a PG-13/12A. I know I was, but I was certainly glad it was that violent.

 

[danb26]

Interesting article here, France and Maliysia (sp) give it a 'U'

Universal - Suitable for All heh!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7547223.stm