Ted Nugents a racist republican

[Kritish]

It was started over states rights...learn your history.

And slavery was considered a state right, before that there really was no Federal government and states decided almost everything. There already were states that had banned slavery. The south wanted nothing to do with the Federal government decided that some laws should be nation wide, slavery was the one they were most concerned about.

 

[unstoppable]

I'm offended by both.

woopty doo

but I'd say you'd rather have a guy walk up to you with a rebel flag shirt on then one with a nazi shirt

 

[Tyrinus]

And slavery was considered a state right, before that there really was no Federal government and states decided almost everything. There already were states that had banned slavery. The south wanted nothing to do with the Federal government decided that some laws should be nation wide, slavery was the one they were most concerned about.

There were slave states that were part of the Union....again learn your history. It was more involved than simply slavery, that was just an issue that pushed to the forefront after the war had started.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The Civil war started over slavery, the people that say otherwise are simply wrong. Not everyone that sports a Confederate flag NOW is a racist.

No, the Civil War started over states rights and the election of 1860 with slavery as a huge influence.

Slavery's legality was up to the states. In some it was legal and in others it was banned. Because Lincoln was a Republican, a party that was opposed to slavery, Southerners feared that Lincoln would have overexerted the power of the federal government by banning slavery. They feared that if he banned slavery everywhere, what would stop him from taking another power that was given to the states?

 

[Kritish]

There were slave states that were part of the Union....again learn your history. It was more involved than simply slavery, that was just an issue that pushed to the forefront after the war had started.

I'm not saying that slavery was the only issue, but it was the main one.
The book "Uncle Tom's" cabin acted like a call to arms for the North, before that most "Yankees" didn't care what the south did.

 

[unstoppable]

No, the Civil War started over states rights and the election of 1860 with slavery as a huge influence.

Slavery's legality was up to the states. In some it was legal and in others it was banned. Because Lincoln was a Republican, a party that was opposed to slavery, Southerners feared that Lincoln would have overexerted the power of the federal government by banning slavery. They feared that if he banned slavery everywhere, what would stop him from taking another power that was given to the states?

how I see it is the south were just to dang lazy to do their own crap

 

[Kritish]

Regardless, I'm against "State rights" too.

 

[SLVRSR4]

As for the Nazi's their symbol is Indian and was contorted to symbolize something else like the confederate flag. Wouldn't wearing the Nazi flag just make you a prejudice person not racist? Who cares what people think as long as it is accurate .>(

 

[hippie_hunter]

how I see it is the south were just to dang lazy to do their own crap

Actually it's beleived that the South would have eventually banned slavery on it's own.

 

[Kritish]

Actually it's beleived that the South would have eventually banned slavery on it's own.

There's still parts of the south were it's still dangerouse for a mixed race couple to walk down the street. The south might have eventually done it, but after way too many generations.

 

[hippie_hunter]

There's still parts of the south were it's still dangerouse for a mixed race couple to walk down the street. The south might have eventually done it, but after way too many generations.

Quite possibly.

But the fact is that the Civil War was fought mostly over states rights and preserving the Union, not slavery.

 

[Kritish]

Quite possibly.

But the fact is that the Civil War was fought mostly over states rights and preserving the Union, not slavery.

You think states should be allowed to leave after hundreds of years?

What would happen of Main decided they wanted to leave in 2007?

 

[unstoppable]

I agree with Kritish on the above^

#35

 

[unstoppable]

You think states should be allowed to leave after hundreds of years?

What would happen of Main decided they wanted to leave in 2007?

Bush would declare war against them

 

[Kritish]

Bush would declare war against them

A war against Maine wouldn't be much of a war, more like an over night operation.

 

[unstoppable]

A war against Maine wouldn't be much of a war, more like an over night operation.

good point

 

[Muze]

Listen this

doesn't mean your racist or your a nazi

yeah, it's just a symbol used by anti-american terrorists; those against the union.

 

[Kritish]

I love it when people talk about how much they lover America when they have a confederate flag in the back of their trucks.

 

[hippie_hunter]

You think states should be allowed to leave after hundreds of years?

What would happen of Main decided they wanted to leave in 2007?

No, I beleive that the federal government is vastly superior to the state governments. I beleive that the federal government should take over education. I beleive that the federal government should have a portion of sales taxes for a temporary time (to help with the recent deficit).

I do beleive in states rights to a certain extent. I beleive that the states have the right to raise the minimum wage above the federal level. I beleive that the states can raise enviromental standards. Etc. States rights often lead the federal government to take action throughout the entire nation.

 

[unstoppable]

I love it when people talk about how much they lover America when they have a confederate flag in the back of their trucks.

maybe they love the south

 

[cryptic name]

Nugent rocks ’n’ rattles GOP at gov’s inaugural​

Singer sports Confederate flag T-shirt and machine guns at Texas gala



AUSTIN, Texas - Hours after Gov. Rick Perry kicked off his second full term in office, Ted Nugent helped him celebrate at a black-tie gala. But some attendees treated the show by the “Cat Scratch Fever” rocker like an infection.
Using machine guns as props, Nugent, 58, appeared onstage as the final act of the inaugural ball wearing a cutoff T-shirt emblazoned with the Confederate flag and shouting offensive remarks about non-English speakers, said people who attended.
Perry’s spokesman, Robert Black, downplayed the Tuesday night incident.

“Ted Nugent is a good friend of the governor’s. He asked him if he would play at the inaugural. He didn’t put any stipulation (on) what he would play,” Black said.
Others said the appearance was inappropriate.
“I think it was a horrible choice,” GOP strategist Royal Masset said. “I hope nobody approved it.”
Nugent, a hunting and gun-rights advocate, couldn’t be reached for comment Thursday because he was hunting, a spokeswoman said.
The guitarist — known as the “Motor City Madman” — lived in Michigan most of his life before moving to Crawford, Texas, in 2003. He is famed for the 1977 hit “Cat Scratch Fever.”
News of Nugent’s appearance drew criticisms from civil-rights leaders.
“Whenever someone sports the Confederate battle flag, many Texans will be offended, and rightly so, because of what it symbolizes — the enslavement of African-Americans and more recently the symbol of hate groups and terrorists,” said Gary Bledsoe, president of the Texas chapter of the NAACP.

a confederate flag doesn't make you racist. it kind of makes you unpatriotic...but whatever

 

[Spider-Bite]

In today's age everybody knows that sticking your middle finger up in the air means **** you. We all know how the flag will be intrepeted, and with that knowledge in mind, nobody would sport it unless they intended to send a message of racism. They just wouldn't. I wouldn't say something unless I wanted it to be intrepeted the way I know it would be. Nobody intends to me misintrepeted.

He knows what it means to a lot of people, and he wouldn't have waved it unless he wanted to send the message as he knew people would hear it.

In today's age it stands for slavery, and I honestly feel that people who pretend it doesn't are just playing dumb.

 

[cryptic name]

it means whatever it means to the person sporting it. if the bat symbol strangley became known for wanting to take away women's right to vote, i would still wear my batman tee shirt...because i like batman and f**k everyone else and what they think i mean by wearing it. all i'm saying is, you can't say a person is racist for wearing the confederate flag, you can think they're insensitive and maybe socially ******ed, but that's another story

 

[hippie_hunter]

In today's age everybody knows that sticking your middle finger up in the air means **** you. We all know how the flag will be intrepeted, and with that knowledge in mind, nobody would sport it unless they intended to send a message of racism. They just wouldn't. I wouldn't say something unless I wanted it to be intrepeted the way I know it would be. Nobody intends to me misintrepeted.

He knows what it means to a lot of people, and he wouldn't have waved it unless he wanted to send the message as he knew people would hear it.

In today's age it stands for slavery, and I honestly feel that people who pretend it doesn't are just playing dumb.

I see it as more treasonous than a stand for slavery.

 

[Kritish]

People that wish the Confederates had won are unamerican.
Let's leave it at that.