Teen Girl SHot, Killed by Stepdad After Trying to Sneak Back Into House

[Tropico]

Oh, no. OH, NOOOO!!!

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[Feenix]

lol...so you guys don't get your knickers in a twist. The comment was in response to Tanin and his knocking on doors. Again, you guys spend too much time trying to find someone to blame in these accidents, so you can call it murder. It's unfortunate that this occurred, but things like this happen. Now get over it and move on.

Things like this should never happen. Accidentally shooting your child is not a get over it and move on type of situation.

You're not even cold hearted. That implies that you have a heart.

 

[KevanG]

Oh, no. OH, NOOOO!!!

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[Xeno]

..did you just say that a teenager deserved to get shot dead for sneaking out? Dear god I hope you never have children.

It's gonna be open season on rugrats unless the kids are armed, too.

 

[Tropico]

Fixed

Thanks

 

[KevanG]

It's gonna be open season on rugrats unless the kids are armed, too.

Someone save Chuckie!

 

[jaymes_e06]

I'm fine.

 

[KevanG]

I'd say someone save Tommy but he already took down Jason twice.

 

[SV Fan]

Yeah, if had an intruder I would alert him/her to the fad that I have a gun pointed at him. Shooting somebody should be your absolute LAST option.

I have to agree with this even if it was an intruder it would be stupid to just randomly fire at him

 

[Xeno]

While Charl tries to find some tact,

I would like to ask: does anyone know which is more common, saving yourself or someone else using a gun or accidental deaths with a gun?

In other words, are you more likely to rightfully defend yourself with a gun or accidentally shoot someone?

Guns that people keep in their homes are twelve times more likely to be used to kill a family member than an intruder or visitor. From what I have read on the subject, the availability of a gun in and of itself can cause arguments to escalate to deadly violence. Guns are also often used in suicides. And of course some poor kid finds mommy or daddy's gun every day and uses it to blow away a sibling or friend -- or themselves. (And before anyone blames these child victims of gun accidents, let's note that children as young as 2 years old have accidentally shot and killed themselves, so it's not a matter of "bad kids getting what's coming to them.")

Guns in homes can increase risk of death and firearm-related violence

Having a gun at home not only increases the risk of harm to one's self and family, but also carries high costs to society, concludes an article in the February Southern Medical Journal, official journal of the Southern Medical Association. The journal is published by Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, a part of Wolters Kluwer Health, a leading provider of information and business intelligence for students, professionals, and institutions in medicine, nursing, allied health, and pharmacy.

"Firearm-related violence vastly increases expenditures for health care, services for the disabled, insurance, and our criminal justice system," writes Dr. Steven Lippmann of University of Louisville School of Medicine, and colleagues. "The bills are paid by taxpayers and those who buy insurance."

Guns at Home Increase Dangers, Not Safety
Based on a review of the available scientific data, Dr. Lippmann and co-authors conclude that the dangers of having a gun at home far outweigh the safety benefits. Research shows that access to guns greatly increases the risk of death and firearm-related violence. A gun in the home is twelve times more likely to result in the death of a household member or visitor than an intruder.

The most common cause of deaths occurring at homes where guns are present, by far, is suicide. Many of these self-inflicted gunshot wounds appear to be impulsive acts by people without previous evidence of mental illness. Guns in the home are also associated with a fivefold increase in the rate of intimate partner homicide, as well as an increased risk of injuries and death to children.

 

[Feenix]

Thanks for the info, xeno!


It's disturbing...

 

[SentinelMind]

Yeah, if had an intruder I would alert him/her to the fad that I have a gun pointed at him. Shooting somebody should be your absolute LAST option.

Agreed. I'm all for self-defense...but this seems far more fault of the stepdad's than teenagers for not taking any sort of precaution. Teenagers are stupid, the parent has responsibility to be aware of surroundings when in possession of a gun. You can't just go guns blazing just because its your house. If anything, you're better of scaring away the intruder than simply shooting him dead in your basement. What's the point of calling cops if you're hellbent on just killing the guy on the spot? The dad's going to live with this guilt for rest of his life. I'm so sorry for the family. I'm not even sure if I'm against charges being filed.

 

[Doctor Evo]

(And before anyone blames these child victims of gun accidents, let's note that children as young as 2 years old have accidentally shot and killed themselves, so it's not a matter of "bad kids getting what's coming to them.")

Who could possibly display such bad taste and poor social judgement?

 

[charl_huntress]

(And before anyone blames these child victims of gun accidents, let's note that children as young as 2 years old have accidentally shot and killed themselves, so it's not a matter of "bad kids getting what's coming to them.")

Oftentimes young children are the victims of self accidental gun shots because they are playing with a improperly secured firearm. The responsibility to secure the gun belongs to the gun owner so in that instance if left out then I believe it is the gun owner's fault.

 

[Feenix]

Yeah, you dug yourself a hole you're not getting out of.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Shame to hear about the girl. I am a strong supporter of the right to own guns, and if necessary use them, but this illustrates a major issue with the system of gun ownership and law enforcement. Theres actually very strict guidelines (in most states) that gun owners must follow in the event that they feel they need to use a gun. These guidelines are meant not only to legally protect the shooter, but physically protect the target in reducing the likelihood of unnecessarily being shoot. Had the step father followed these guidelines (his daughters dead so it's safe to assume he did not), she'd most likely be alive. Unfortunately, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of shooters in these cases have NO IDEA what they're supposed to do in these types of situations. It's not a general gun ownership problem - if it where, there'd be a LOT more deaths considering the amount of gun owners - but the minority. The problem is anyone can get a gun, whether you're 100% responsible or 5% with it. We need to figure out a system that will either keep these idiots away from guns, or force far more extensive instruction so that there is NO excuse to come into a situation where you don't follow the rules of self defense and get an innocent shot.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

lol...so you guys don't get your knickers in a twist. The comment was in response to Tanin and his knocking on doors. Again, you guys spend too much time trying to find someone to blame in these accidents, so you can call it murder. It's unfortunate that this occurred, but things like this happen. Now get over it and move on.

I don't see anyone taking any time blaming the person responsible. The step-father shot and killed the girl.

We would love to get over it and move on, but these senseless things just keep happening from all of these "responsible" gun owners.

Unless by "get over it and move on," you mean move on to the next shooting death. It shouldn't take too long for that.

 

[KevanG]

I'm fine with people owning guns for self defense or what not but when you start having a few dozen (outside of an actual collection or store) and thousands of rounds of ammunition for personal use I get worried.

 

[charl_huntress]

The interesting thing is after the porch debate I read CA's Home protection bill of rights to see what my state's law had to say about it. Everyone should do this even if you don't own a gun for your own state.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I describe my dad as a gun nut but he is super responsible. All the hunting guns are locked away in a huge safe and he keeps his 9 in a lock box next to his bed. When I was learning how to hunt as a teen he made sure I went to the correct classes and practiced gun safety. Sadly many homes with guns do not follow the necessary precautions

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

This was probably her first time sneaking in or at least her first time getting caught which is why the step-father didn't consider it could be his daughter "breaking in".