Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[Mysteryman]

Hopefully , we wont have to wait long until we get a trailer.
Fingers Crossed.

 

[OutOfBoose]

How many Terminators are there supposed to be in this? Seems like they're going the Aliens route of making them more disposable than indestructible.

3 so far, it seems. Davis, Pena and Archibald.

 

[StarLord]

Pena and Archibald.

You mean Luna and Arnold?

 

[StarLord]

 

[OutOfBoose]

You mean Luna and Arnold?

Yeah, Luna and Archibald. Didn't wake up yet.

 

[Aximili86]

Really ****ing hating the sound of that "splitting into a second endoskeleton" stuff. Ehh, just reeks of the "bigger badder meaner" thing every sequel seems to do.

I dunno, what's wrong with just keeping the T-1000 the most-advanced thing Skynet's done, and find other ways to create suspense & drama? Wasn't the T-1000 meant to be some prototype, something even Skynet was a little wary of and not sure it could control? That's probably really-fuzzy in canon terms from way back in the day with comics and stuff, but always liked that idea. A second T-1000 in Sarah Connor Chronicles never really bugged me given that's such an "elseworlds" thing and a lot of the ideas were awesome, just sort of separate it from the movie canon and view it as its own thing. Just sort of think for the movies you could come up with a different dynamic here, either multiple T-800s or some entirely new approach to a Terminator (neither the "tank" like Ahnuld nor the "scalpel" like Patrick), this just sort of feels like "even more badass T-1000, dudebrahs!" from the description.

Clearly, yeah, Luna's too small a guy to be a T-800, you want to go smaller & leaner & craftier if you're casting that way. Just not really all that enthusiastic about "another liquid Terminator, only the metal goo is dirty-brown this time, and he can split into a SECOND one!" Kinda feels the same as the T-X from 3, kinda juvenile or something as an approach.

But whatever, it's Cameron, benefit of the doubt. Can't wait to see some footage from this all the same.

 

[OutOfBoose]

If drama and action works, if the narrative is continued in a convincing manner, T-Luna being derivative of T-1000 won't matter. T-800 was the most advanced thing in T1, T-1000 in T2 and this time it's T-Luna. Who cares... Gives us a scary vision of the future.

Splitting terminator (judging by description) is still a lot better than Deathstar 2 and 3.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[StarLord]

I don't see how the new Terminator's abilities are ''juvenile'', that's a rather stupid critique of something that we don't really know anything about, in how it works etc. It doesn't seem flashy to me at all.

Like Da Scribe said, it feels like a progression of the T-1000 rather than some comical everything-but-the-kitchen sink crap that we got in T3. The less said about T-Connor from Genisuck the better...

 

[Aximili86]

I mean, it's all context and the execution is everything, if anyone's going to get it right it's Cameron overseeing it all.

But I don't know how the T-X would be a legitimate criticism if this isn't, it's kind of the same "top the T-1000" approach, which admittedly is hard to do but I'm not sure you even necessarily have to. Tech-wise anyway. A lot of the time this stuff can reek of a little "extreeeeeeeme, duuuuudes!" vibes when you take it too far. Obviously it's not to the same extent as the ridiculous crap with the Connor terminator in Genisys, but the idea of a terminator going all Multiple Man is sort of pushing that relative groundedness of the Cameron films a little bit for me. If they keep it relatively modest & small it'll be okay, and honestly my reaction's probably more just muscle-memory recoil from this type of stuff in the last few non-Cameron terminator entries, but yeah, upon first reading it it's a little eye-roll-y.

Kinda personally just feel like Luna as a smaller & sleeker take on a solid-body Arnold terminator would be just fine here. Less of a blunt-force brute in an actual firefight, a little less durable/tanky-y, but better computer systems & infiltration abilities, smarter & craftier, but still more just classic terminator guy. Arnold's T1 guy is still a million times scarier for me than the T-1000 and anything since, mostly just because you can sort of buy it a little more, seems less out-there as a possibility in 40 years (sliding timescale, same amount of time out from now as the future stuff was from 1984 back then) or whatever. Personal taste I guess.

 

[jmc]

Nobody is wondering.

 

[StarLord]

Sure...

I wonder if they'll try and get a trailer out in time for Endgame? If not then maybe John Wick 3?

 

[Deck Rickard]

Wikipedia has an actor listed as body double for a young John Connor and it says CG will be used to give him Furlong's T2 appearance.

Why not just get the real Eddie Furlong? Is he too busy these days?

 

[Schlosser85]

Why not just get the real Eddie Furlong? Is he too busy these days?

Because it’s a body double for a child, circa Terminator 2 Furlong.

And also Furlong these days looks like this

 

[Hunter Rider]

I wasn't a fan of Deadpool but that is probably down to the fact I'm not a fan of the character in general, but some of the action was good and Miller seems genuinely passionate about this, however he's not the first director to take on a classic franchise with good intentions and then not match fanboy expectations. As for the split Terminator concept, I quite like the idea and I'm interested to see it in action to get a feel for it.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Because it’s a body double for a child, circa Terminator 2 Furlong.

And also Furlong these days looks like this

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LOL, I know. I was just kidding. Poor Eddie. Damn.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Kinda personally just feel like Luna as a smaller & sleeker take on a solid-body Arnold terminator would be just fine here. Less of a blunt-force brute in an actual firefight, a little less durable/tanky-y, but better computer systems & infiltration abilities, smarter & craftier, but still more just classic terminator guy.

 

[mackblack01]

Because it’s a body double for a child, circa Terminator 2 Furlong.

And also Furlong these days looks like this

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I'm pretty sure if they decided to give him a part in this project, he would have get in shape in pre production. Sad that Hollywood just don't give a **** about him no more, I liked most of his works back then.

 

[Schlosser85]

We don't even know what kind of role John has in this storyline. Considering the only thing we've heard about him is a body double and CGI for a T2-era John in a flashback, I'm guessing not much of one.

 

[HKpowerup]

That's a shame, to have both Connors in the film would've been awesome. It would have been great to see the relationship carrying on from T2.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Indeed.

BTW I like the splitting Terminator thing. As long as he can only do it like one time every few hours / days or so.

 

[Pennywise]

'Terminator: Dark Fate': Gabriel Luna Teases His Deadly New Terminator

It's really hard to describe, because for me when I first got the part there was no script. So I spent a lot of time - more time than I should divulge - just standing in front of a mirror, just trying to develop the physical vocabulary of what he is, what's important. The head pitched forward in pursuit; the fluidity and the points of focus and all these things. And that's all I could work on, you know? So am sitting there, like, 'What is a Terminator to me?' and I'm breaking it down and building it up from the ground.

And then I got the script and I realized what Tim [Miller's] and Jim [Cameron's] vision of this Terminator is, and tried to marry the two, and then align them with what The Terminator has been in my imagination for 36 years or whatever."

 

[dark_b]

After the last three, I almost certainly shouldn't get my hopes up, but 1) Tim Miller did good with Deadpool, 2) the dude got choked up talking about the movie, and 3) we've got a decent amount of involvement from the original group.

I don't know. I'm hopeful.

i like Blur and their cinematics. he cries in almost all interviews

 

[Deck Rickard]

We don't even know what kind of role John has in this storyline. Considering the only thing we've heard about him is a body double and CGI for a T2-era John in a flashback, I'm guessing not much of one.

I'm guessing that since all we see is a kid John Connor, he gets killed in this version and that's part of why Judgment Day still happens and all that.

Which is a shame, if true. And even if it isn't, it still shows just how much this franchise has failed a pivotal (and perhaps its most important) character. After T2, it was clear they didn't know what to do with him. Nick Stahl's Connor came off like some sort of beatnik drifter who couldn't inspire anyone to fight back against the machines. Then you had Christian Bale, who is a great actor and could have probably been an iconic John Connor, but sadly, they gave him nothing to do but act like a jerk and sit around in a basement listening to recordings of his mom. And supposedly that was because the original script barely had Connor in it and focused almost entirely on Sam Worthington's stupid character for God knows what reason. And then they did the inexplicable thing of... making him a Terminator/human hybrid in Genysis. Like, what?

I really hope that this movie turns the franchise around and at least some aspects of it sound promising, particularly Linda Hamilton's involvement and Mackenzie Davis' character sounds awesome. But I hate that they've screwed up the John Connor character so badly that they've apparently given up on really using him again.

 

[Schlosser85]

lol in my review of Genisys I said “why can’t any of these movies get adult John right”.