Terminator: Genisys - Part 4

[KRYPTON INC.]

How original.

But not untrue.

Courtney is nowhere near as lifeless a screen presence as Worthington. Frankly, it's the Director and the genral descending scale of quality of the Terminator films since T2 that has me concerned. Some things need to be put to bed and be given a real fresh start. Arnie coming back for no good reason to this franchise feels desperate to me, and like reheating a meal in the microwave for the fifth time. We shall see though, I suppose.

 

[Octoberist]

It's a cynical cash grab. It's not too far off from Sony's handling of Amazing Spider-Man, despite it had some really talented people involved like Emma Stone, etc.

That's why when Megan Ellison took Annapurna off from Terminator, I don't think it's just due to her wanting her unique brand sticking to indie movies. I think it's a spin, knowing that Terminator is not shaping up to what she and her brother's expectations. And that's mostly due to the deadline before the rights head back to Cameron in 2019.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The trailer far from wowed me... But I guess it's possible this could exceed my expectations. Smith and Clarke alone could carry this perhaps.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Original or not it's as true as true can be. Avatar was a rip off. Sam is crap. James cameron hasn't made a good film since true lies and people these days love to elevate movies that don't deserve it (american sniper, avatar, frozen, anything with benedict cumberpatch kid etc etc).

 

[Octoberist]

To me, Avatar didn't work due to its odd pacing and lack of uninteresting characters. I can't remember any of their names, while it's so easy to remember the likes of Neo/Morpheus, Jack Sparrow, Luke Skywalker, Marty McFly, etc.

Something happened there.

 

[Octoberist]

The trailer far from wowed me... But I guess it's possible this could exceed my expectations. Smith and Clarke alone could carry this perhaps.

I think when the Ellisons bought the rights and when the story got developed, everyone probably thought they could actually use footage from the old movies some how. I'm sure there were talks about that, and when that didn't work out due to rights issues, it just created more problems maybe? I don't know..I should stop. Now I'm just talking out of my butt.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think when the Ellisons bought the rights and when the story got developed, everyone probably thought they could actually use footage from the old movies some how. I'm sure there were talks about that, and when that didn't work out due to rights issues, it just created more problems maybe? I don't know..I should stop. Now I'm just talking out of my butt.

That sounds like a problem. Consult a physician.

 

[Octoberist]

God help me!

 

[bullets]

To me, Avatar didn't work due to its odd pacing and lack of uninteresting characters. I can't remember any of their names, while it's so easy to remember the likes of Neo/Morpheus, Jack Sparrow, Luke Skywalker, Marty McFly, etc.

Something happened there.

All I remember is great visuals and Giovanni Ribisi being a dick. Also there was a sex scene involving tails intertwining. It was a great movie. Luckily I never saw Dance with Wolves because I heard it was a snooze fest.

 

[flickchick85]

Sorry I was being facetious

Oh haha right. I mean I knew that.

 

[DA_Champion]

I prefer Sam Worthington to Jai Courtney.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Original or not it's as true as true can be. Avatar was a rip off. Sam is crap. James cameron hasn't made a good film since true lies and people these days love to elevate movies that don't deserve it (american sniper, avatar, frozen, anything with benedict cumberpatch kid etc etc).

Wow. No holding back, huh? Just blunt truth.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I prefer Sam Worthington to Jai Courtney.

Take your pick. [YT]uOHFCuLj2uI[/YT]

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[max314]

So they're rapeconning Terminator.

Great.

 

[Rowsdower!]

To me, Avatar didn't work due to its odd pacing and lack of uninteresting characters. I can't remember any of their names, while it's so easy to remember the likes of Neo/Morpheus, Jack Sparrow, Luke Skywalker, Marty McFly, etc.

Something happened there.

So you wanted MORE uninteresting characters? t:

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm not crazy about Worthington or anything, but I didn't have an issue with him in Avatar or Terminator (and actually people here at the time didn't have a problem with him in Terminator either and just now like to pretend they did because he hasn't done anything good since and he's become a popular person to hate on).

I see no reason why Courtney is any better than Worthington. And the accent issue doesn't cut it when, say, Anthony Hopkins and Liam Neeson can't do an American accent to save their life (no I am not comparing Worthington and Hopkins/Neeson's acting abilities, I'm just saying lack of ability to do accents alone doesn't make someone a better or worse actor).

 

[terry78]

Worthington is the lesser of two evils. That's right, evils. I have heard that he does decent work, but I've seen him in about five flicks and none of them stood out.

 

[MrMaooz]

Worthington has one of the worst American accents put on screen. I actually think Jai Courtney is much better. I don't hate the guy. I mean, I've only seen him in Jack Reacher, and the guy was pretty good in that. Great American accent as well.

Anyways, I'm expecting trailer two to drop next week if there is a Super Bowl spot.

 

[Octoberist]

Details on the Fight Between Two Arnold Schwarzeneggers in Terminator Genisys

Apparently production company Skydance is unhappy with the initial shoot for this battle royale, but instead of flying Arnold & co. in for expensive reshoots at Griffith Observatory they are utilizing TWO computer generated Arnold’s to create new shots that will make the fight “more brutal.”

“The battle will be better then the T-800 and T-1000 from T2. The ground will break on the wrestling fight,” says their anonymous production source.

Here’s a more detailed description of pre-viz from the piece: “The young digitally enhanced T-800 is doing a forward lunge double fist punch and/or crushing the aged T-800’s face, with both its knuckles pile-driving into the real Arnold Schwarzenegger’s metal skull, like something out of a wrestling match. The aged T-800 has its left arm locked under the T-800’s right shoulder as if it is going to make a deadly move on the younger T-800.”

More here:

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...-arnold-schwarzeneggers-in-terminator-genisys

 

[Rowsdower!]

I'm not crazy about Worthington or anything, but I didn't have an issue with him in Avatar or Terminator (and actually people here at the time didn't have a problem with him in Terminator either and just now like to pretend they did because he hasn't done anything good since and he's become a popular person to hate on).

I see no reason why Courtney is any better than Worthington. And the accent issue doesn't cut it when, say, Anthony Hopkins and Liam Neeson can't do an American accent to save their life (no I am not comparing Worthington and Hopkins/Neeson's acting abilities, I'm just saying lack of ability to do accents alone doesn't make someone a better or worse actor).

I know I didn't like him in Terminator. I've never understood the hate Bale got for that movie, coupled with the praise some gave Worthington. I thought both characters were equally uninteresting and unlikable, though it was mostly due to the script. I think I hated Worthington's character a little bit more though, mainly because the whole time I was watching it, I was thinking, "Why the hell are we following this guy? Why are they trying to make me care about him? And if they DO want me to care about him, then why did they make him such a dick?"

Worthington's one saving grace for me was Avatar. I thought he did a good job there and the accent slips weren't as noticeable. He's been pretty bad in everything since then though.

 

[MadVillainy]

I remember a lot of people saying Worthington "acted Bale off the screen" in TS.

I think it has to do with the fact that that was around the time where people disliked Bale because of the whole rant thing

 

[Fallen Angel]

Worthington isn't even worthy of tieing Bale's shoe laces.

 

[terry78]

So they didn't actually bring a younger Arnold back from the past to take part in the fight? Get the **** outta here.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm trying really hard not to dismiss the film, so we'll see. It COULD be a Rise of the Planet of the Apes situation, where the goodwill didn't arrive till the release. Or not...

 

[Rowsdower!]

I remember a lot of people saying Worthington "acted Bale off the screen" in TS.

I think it has to do with the fact that that was around the time where people disliked Bale because of the whole rant thing

Yeah, I think that's all it was.