Terminator: Genisys - Part 5

[StarLord]

I might actually go see it just for this guy... maybe.

 

[DA_Champion]

I'm going to go see the movie regardless because it's Terminator, but my expectations are low.

 

[The Slang]

I don't understand the direction they're going with this. Things were already established in the first 3 movies that practically write the script for you, if you were to make movies set in the future during the machine war.

*Skynet takes over the world and enslaves humans
*Skynet technologically progresses beyond humans
*Skynet makes laser weaponry
*John Connor starts human uprising
*Humans steal/reverse engineer Skynet weapons.
*Skynet makes the T-600 terminators with rubber skin
*Skynet makes the T-800 with living tissue
*Humans begin reprogramming terminators
*Skynet invents T-1000
*Skynet invents space-time displacement technology
*Humans destroy Skynet defense grid
*Skynet realizes it will be destroyed
*Skynet sends T-800 back in time to kill John's mother
*John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time to protect his mother
*Skynet sends T-1000 back in time to kill John Connor
*John Connor sends T-800 back in time to protect himself
*T-800 kills John Connor (in the future)
*Skynet invents T-X and sends it back in time to kill John Connor
*Humans send T-800 back in time to fight the T-X
*Skynet is destroyed

And then we come full circle. Humans win and rebuild society. It was impossible for Skynet to kill John Connor in the past, because had John Connor never existed, then Skynet would have no need to send a terminator back in time to kill him, which means that John Connor would never be killed in the past, which means that Skynet does need to send the terminator back in time... times infinity.
Additionally, Skynet was actually responsible for the birth of John Connor considering that Kyle Reese (John's father) was sent back in time to protect Sarah Connor from Skynet. So Skynet created the very thing it aimed to destroy, through the act of trying to destroy it.

In the end, the super intelligent computer Skynet was defeated by a logical paradox.

THE END

 

[henzINNIT]

I don't understand the direction they're going with this. Things were already established in the first 3 movies that practically write the script for you, if you were to make movies set in the future during the machine war.

That's largely the problem. There is no story to the future war because we already know how it goes. The final battle for the future takes place in the present. The Terminator was never built for sequels, which is why so many have struggled.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm going to go see the movie regardless because it's Terminator, but my expectations are low.

Part of the problem.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I was going to see it, but decided not to after what they did with John. Eh.

 

[Lencho01]

Is Kyle getting the butt pose supposed to counterbalance Sarah's boobs?

 

[Octoberist]

One of the worst ad campaigns I've seen for a major movie thus far.

 

[terry78]

Emilia Clarke's **** do not work that way.

 

[TheVileOne]

One of the worst ad campaigns I've seen for a major movie thus far.

Seems like they want it to look like Avengers.

 

[samsnee]

Was Jai too good to even try to grow some stubble to look like Biehn?

 

[Teelie]

That Photoshop on Emilia is ridiculous. I mean it's a banging body she is rocking, but her actual body looks nothing like that. Perhaps someone should have showed the art department the pilot episode of GOT for reference.

And were they ever planning to keep the T-3000 a secret or did they just get desperate and decide to spoil it in the marketing to up the "cool" factor?

I think after all the spoilers and subsequent responses they felt they had no choice but to reveal that particular spoiler. It's not a secret anymore.

Oh, and the photoshop is actually less ridiculous than I have seen them do in the past. I still remember the times they gave a pre-18 year old Emma Watson a bigger bust on a Harry Potter poster and they similarly boosted Kate Beckinsale's too for King Arthur.

 

[TheVileOne]

Keira Knightley not Becksinale.

I'm a little disappointed. So much fury over Black Widow having a romance with the Hulk and literally nothing about what the art department for Terminator Genisys did to Emilia Clarke.

 

[Lighthouse]

Keira Knightley not Becksinale.

I'm a little disappointed. So much fury over Black Widow having a romance with the Hulk and literally nothing about what the art department for Terminator Genisys did to Emilia Clarke.

I think the reason for that is Age of Ultron is a movie actually worth giving a **** about, unlike Terminator: Genisys.

 

[Marvolo]

I think after all the spoilers and subsequent responses they felt they had no choice but to reveal that particular spoiler. It's not a secret anymore.

Oh, and the photoshop is actually less ridiculous than I have seen them do in the past. I still remember the times they gave a pre-18 year old Emma Watson a bigger bust on a Harry Potter poster and they similarly boosted Kate Beckinsale's too for King Arthur.

Yeah I remember that. Me and Emma are the same age so at the time I liked it but in hindsight the way they used her for sex appeal was kind of ick. Did you know that WB also made Emma's breasts more prominent on the order of the Phoenix IMAX poster than the regular poster? They were artificially enhanced on the regular poster, but for the IMAX poster they removed even more of her torso under the boobs to make them seem
larger, they lit up her chest area to make it brighter, and they gave her hair more of a "flowy" effect. Here is a comparison:

Standard poster:

IMAX Poster:

 

[Snow Queen]

Yeah I remember that. Me and Emma are the same age so at the time I liked it but in hindsight the way they used her for sex appeal was kind of ick. Did you know that WB also made Emma's breasts more prominent on the order of the Phoenix IMAX poster than the regular poster? They were artificially enhanced on the regular poster, but for the IMAX poster they removed even more of her torso under the boobs to make them seem
larger, they lit up her chest area to make it brighter, and they gave her hair more of a "flowy" effect. Here is a comparison:

 

[Marvolo]

Can y'all imagine going home and your wife or significant other asking you what you did at work that day.

"I drew bigger boobs on a 15 year old girl to make her a sex object for young boys and pervy older men. Ya know, the usual stuff."

 

[Zantera]

The marketing campaign has indeed been very baffling. At this point I can't blame them for the Emilia poster. They need to do everything in their power to bring in the people, and boobs are magical. What sucks is that T2 (and to some extent T1) had a very real, gritty and "grey" look, something that really worked, and we loved. But instead of trying to go that route, they go with a wider color palette and a lot of the CGI has looked... off. Pretty much all the posters have looked awfully photoshopped as well. We don't need a super-damaged Arnold that looks awfully CGI'd. All we need is a picture of Arnold in front of an actual building (or something other than a green screen) and they could just do a small CGI job with showing the red eye, or just do some real make-up work. Instead it looks 100% CGI and is kinda off putting.

I'll still be there opening weekend, and probably be disappointed like everyone else.

 

[Snow Queen]

Can y'all imagine going home and your wife or significant other asking you what you did at work that day.

"I drew bigger boobs on a 15 year old girl to make her a sex object for young boys and pervy older men. Ya know, the usual stuff."

The point where you reconsider what you're doing with your life.

 

[Marvolo]

The point where you reconsider what you're doing with your life.

No doubt.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Can y'all imagine going home and your wife or significant other asking you what you did at work that day.

"I drew bigger boobs on a 15 year old girl to make her a sex object for young boys and pervy older men. Ya know, the usual stuff."

The guy in this case most likely doesn't have one of those though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They objectified my girls.

But seriously, it amazes me that they get away with this crap. Emma Watson was 16 when they did that. As a fan of both, I remembered when both these things happened, and you hear nothing from the creeps that do it. They act like there is nothing to see here.

 

[titansupes]

Yeah I remember that. Me and Emma are the same age so at the time I liked it but in hindsight the way they used her for sex appeal was kind of ick. Did you know that WB also made Emma's breasts more prominent on the order of the Phoenix IMAX poster than the regular poster? They were artificially enhanced on the regular poster, but for the IMAX poster they removed even more of her torso under the boobs to make them seem
larger, they lit up her chest area to make it brighter, and they gave her hair more of a "flowy" effect. Here is a comparison:

Standard poster:

IMAX Poster:

Well to be fair, everything's bigger in IMAX, so...

 

[Tg11]

But making John Connor the T-3000 I think is an interesting idea by Skynet attacking John in both the past and the future it makes things all the more unpredictable especially with making John a Terminator because then what better way for Skynet to wipe out both Reese and Sarah? Using their own son against them it's genius

 

[MadVillainy]

Can y'all imagine going home and your wife or significant other asking you what you did at work that day.

"I drew bigger boobs on a 15 year old girl to make her a sex object for young boys and pervy older men. Ya know, the usual stuff."

Hahaha