Terminator: Salvation - The NEW new thread

[Terminator]

Neil Blomkamp would be perfect.

Turns out SkyNet just wanted to go to space. Who knew?

 

[Sawyer]

Bear McCreary is another thing I demand!

Along with Summer Glau

High five on both!

Plus a passing reference to Kyle's brother Derek.

 

[Terminator]

I don't think anyone's heading to the theater for a sequel to SCC. It's too far on it's own path and shouldn't be connected with the movies.

 

[Sawyer]

I don't think anyone's heading to the theater for a sequel to SCC. It's too far on it's own path and shouldn't be connected with the movies.

Well, it ignores T3 and Salvation, so.... pretty much the perfect way to go.


But, yeah, I wouldnt want that either, but I see nothing wrong with a few passing references to the show (particularly Derek Reese).

 

[Nightmare]

You have a "Thing" For Brian Austin Greene?

 

[Sawyer]

You have a "Thing" For Brian Austin Greene?

Well, hey, he's a good looking guy.

Seriously though, I was surprised at how much I liked the character given that he was connected to the characters, yet never mentioned in the movies, and played by a 90210 castmember.

 

[daywalker2007]

we have to be realistic here.

The Terminator name and story has been truly raped and sodomised in the last 2 films.

T1 and T2 would probably have been followed up by a Jim Cameron 3D hi tech T3 if he hadn't have lost the rights.

But as it is, we had to deal with the horrible T3 and the even worse Salvation.

Basically, 2 movies have basically ruined the name of what was once a great low budget movie and its hi tech sequel.

Like someone else said previously. Its been permanently stained.
You are a fighting a losing battle trying to ressurect this story from the shambolic results of T3 and Salvation.

Cameron is never going to revisit it. Arnie is way too old to ever be part of another movie (realistically, he was too old for T3).

The only logical solution to me is this and it makes perfect sense.


Whoever wins the rights needs to totally Restart the story from the beginning, call it a "reimagining", "reboot" or whatever you want.
They should be allowed to come up with a totally new story, create new characters, but the same premise of time travel could be kept.

The new rights holders should wait out a few years, allow a director or team to develop a script which will work as a standalone movie, and have an open ending.

You can't fix something thats been irreperably damaged. It's pointless trying to mess around for another movie.

Just do the damn restart and allow a good talented director to utilise a low budget to make a new movie.

Its not rocket science.

 

[Sawyer]

No way was Salvation worse than T3... if anything, they're equals in badness.

 

[Rishi]

Rebooting The Terminator is only a smidgen less blasphemous than rebooting The Godfather.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Well, hey, he's a good looking guy.

Seriously though, I was surprised at how much I liked the character given that he was connected to the characters, yet never mentioned in the movies, and played by a 90210 castmember.

I never thought I would say that Brian Austin Greene is a badass until I watched The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't think anyone's heading to the theater for a sequel to SCC. It's too far on it's own path and shouldn't be connected with the movies.

Adding in Summer Glau's character and Derek Reese doesn't make it a sequel to The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It would be like adding Harley Quinn and Livewire to the comics after the DCAU.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Making a film from the TV series that had John Connor have the hots for a Terminator.

Are you kidding me?

 

[Heretic]

Adding Summer Glau to a movie is never a mistake.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Making a film from the TV series that had John Connor have the hots for a Terminator.

Are you kidding me?

No, I am not kidding you

 

[DarKJediKnight]

Making a film from the TV series that had John Connor have the hots for a Terminator.

Are you kidding me?

John Connor is not to blame for having hots for a Terminator like that.

 

[Nightmare]

I had the hots for a terminator like that

 

[The Chris]

we all had the hots for that terminator!

anyway, Terminator: SCC > Terminator Salvation > Terminator 3

I wouldn't mind seeing SCC continue in some fashion. And I agree on the respect to Bear McCreary. The score for the show actually sounds like Terminator.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This is true. Kyle himself didn't even know, he was John's father. The police wouldn't or couldn't have known either, nor would it have been in their police records.

Exactly, it is literally impossible for Skynet to know that Kyle is John's father.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Exactly, it is literally impossible for Skynet to know that Kyle is John's father.

Actually it would be pretty easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese is John's father because of Sarah's imprisonment in Pescadero. In her interviews with Dr. Silberman she revealed the events of the first movie including a machine, called a Terminator sent back in time, a supercomputer taking over the world called Skynet, and that Kyle Reese, the man who was sent back in time by her future son is also John's father. All of this are in Pescadero's records.

The police have records of Kyle Reese because he was arrested in the first film and questioned by Dr. Silberman. Everything he mentioned such as the Terminator's mission to kill Sarah Connor, him being sent by John Connor, along with Skynet and the Terminators would be on record as well.

And with it being the 21st Century and all, all of those records would have been backed up in a computer database by 2004 and Skynet would have been able to instantly obtain once it became activated before destroying the world and the records along with it.

So all Skynet had to do was find anyone associated with the resistance named Kyle Reese. The events of the second film resulting in the delay of the activation of Skyent made it easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese was John Connor's father.

 

[Team Andino]

Actually it would be pretty easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese is John's father because of Sarah's imprisonment in Pescadero. In her interviews with Dr. Silberman she revealed the events of the first movie including a machine, called a Terminator sent back in time, a supercomputer taking over the world called Skynet, and that Kyle Reese, the man who was sent back in time by her future son is also John's father. All of this are in Pescadero's records.

The police have records of Kyle Reese because he was arrested in the first film and questioned by Dr. Silberman. Everything he mentioned such as the Terminator's mission to kill Sarah Connor, him being sent by John Connor, along with Skynet and the Terminators would be on record as well.

And with it being the 21st Century and all, all of those records would have been backed up in a computer database by 2004 and Skynet would have been able to instantly obtain once it became activated before destroying the world and the records along with it.

So all Skynet had to do was find anyone associated with the resistance named Kyle Reese. The events of the second film resulting in the delay of the activation of Skyent made it easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese was John Connor's father.

Thank you

 

[Carnotaur3]

Actually it would be pretty easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese is John's father because of Sarah's imprisonment in Pescadero. In her interviews with Dr. Silberman she revealed the events of the first movie including a machine, called a Terminator sent back in time, a supercomputer taking over the world called Skynet, and that Kyle Reese, the man who was sent back in time by her future son is also John's father. All of this are in Pescadero's records.

The police have records of Kyle Reese because he was arrested in the first film and questioned by Dr. Silberman. Everything he mentioned such as the Terminator's mission to kill Sarah Connor, him being sent by John Connor, along with Skynet and the Terminators would be on record as well.

And with it being the 21st Century and all, all of those records would have been backed up in a computer database by 2004 and Skynet would have been able to instantly obtain once it became activated before destroying the world and the records along with it.

So all Skynet had to do was find anyone associated with the resistance named Kyle Reese. The events of the second film resulting in the delay of the activation of Skyent made it easy for Skynet to find out that Kyle Reese was John Connor's father.

Actually, Sarah Connor DID NOT reveal this information in Pescadaro. Otherwise, we would have heard Dr. Silberman mention it when he takes the students (?) to her room.

"... and a man was sent back in time to protect her. He was from the future too. The year 2029 if I remember correctly. And here we are."

She didn't mention it. She wouldn't mention it... to anyone aside from John of course.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Actually, Sarah Connor DID NOT reveal this information in Pescadaro. Otherwise, we would have heard Dr. Silberman mention it when he takes the students (?) to her room.

"... and a man was sent back in time to protect her. He was from the future too. The year 2029 if I remember correctly. And here we are."

She didn't mention it. She wouldn't mention it... to anyone aside from John of course.

Actually she did mention it.

"And the father of her child was a soldier sent back to protect her. He was from the future too. The year 2029 if I remember correctly. And here we are."

So yes, she did mention it to Dr. Silberman

 

[hippie_hunter]

Actually, Sarah Connor DID NOT reveal this information in Pescadaro. Otherwise, we would have heard Dr. Silberman mention it when he takes the students (?) to her room.

"... and a man was sent back in time to protect her. He was from the future too. The year 2029 if I remember correctly. And here we are."

She didn't mention it. She wouldn't mention it... to anyone aside from John of course.

I think you need to watch that scene again:

"This next patient is interesting. I've been following the case for years. A 29-year old female, diagnosed as acute schizo-affective disorder. The usual indicators - depression, anxiety, violent acting-out, delusions of persecution....The delusional architecture is fairly unique. She believes that a machine called a 'Terminator,' which looks human of course, was sent back through time to kill her. And also that the father of her child was a soldier, sent back to protect her - he was from the future too [He chuckles] - the year, uh, 2029, if I remember correctly."

Even if Sarah never mentioned Kyle's name in the interviews, which is unlikely, Silberman knows she's talking about Kyle because Silberman interrogated Kyle and met Sarah in the police station in the first movie and Kyle told him the same things that he was from the year 2029, the Terminator robots, the time travel, trying to kill Sarah Connor, etc. Hence his laughter because he remembers Kyle as a crazy person who created the perfect delusional story that careers would be made by studying him. And knows that man's name was Kyle Reese.

He most likely thought that the trauma that Sarah faced in the first movie caused the mental problems he assumed she had in the second movie.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I think you need to watch that scene again:

"This next patient is interesting. I've been following the case for years. A 29-year old female, diagnosed as acute schizo-affective disorder. The usual indicators - depression, anxiety, violent acting-out, delusions of persecution....The delusional architecture is fairly unique. She believes that a machine called a 'Terminator,' which looks human of course, was sent back through time to kill her. And also that the father of her child was a soldier, sent back to protect her - he was from the future too [He chuckles] - the year, uh, 2029, if I remember correctly."

Even if Sarah never mentioned Kyle's name in the interviews, which is unlikely, Silberman knows she's talking about Kyle because Silberman interrogated Kyle and met Sarah in the police station in the first movie and Kyle told him the same things that he was from the year 2029, the Terminator robots, the time travel, trying to kill Sarah Connor, etc. Hence his laughter because he remembers Kyle as a crazy person who created the perfect delusional story that careers would be made by studying him. And knows that man's name was Kyle Reese.

He most likely thought that the trauma that Sarah faced in the first movie caused the mental problems he assumed she had in the second movie.

LOL You're right. I blame this on lazy Sunday.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So can we all agree that it's plausible for Skynet knowing that Kyle Reese is John's father?