Thank you, Bruce Timm

[CConn]

I never said that so back off pal, I'm a scientist.

...which is why I said if.

...............................................

Go talk to anyone who's actually watched the show recently, and that's what they'll tell you; it's been great.

 

[Abaddon]

I wouldn't say great, but it's been very good. Vast improvement over the early seasons. However, if you're just going to compare it to BTAS than don't even bother watching.

 

[CConn]

I wouldn't compare it to BTAS, but it's leagues better than any of the other superhero cartoons on TV currently.

 

[Spider-Bat]

Bruce did a wonderful job with TAS. I could care less about the Nolan films especially after seeing what they did to The Joker, that is just awful.

As long as I can watch TAS and the Burton films, even Forever I'm happy.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

I actually have quite a fondness for The Batman. I don't understand why people can't take it... I'm very entertained by the show. Even the first season, I loved. But now that the show's much better? It's fantastic. As good as B:TAS in another sense.

I dunno, I guess I'm more lenient in accepting a new take on Batman if it's on television. That's where he's always been sort of a chameleon to the masses. If it's the movies, I get a bit more upset if the changes are too out-of-control (at least, to me), since the movies are finite. One bad gross, and they're done.

 

[The Joker]

BTAS is my favorite adaption of Batman.

Bar none.

 

[Cain]

The Batman has definitely come into it's own. It's a quality animated program and so is the Legion TV series as well. I like the way they revamped some of the characters. For example I always found The Penguin lame so I appreciate the way they combined the Burton take with the comics version. It's more interesting than what he is in the comics to me. I'm like DocLathropBrown in that I'm more lenient when accepting a new take on the mythos the difference is that I could accept that in any media.

 

[The Kid]

yeah nothing wrong with change if it's an improvement, I say

 

[BubbaGump]

As good as B:TAS in another sense.

*talking to self* The above is just his opinion. *relaxes*

 

[DocLathropBrown]

*talking to self* The above is just his opinion. *relaxes*

Exactly. Breath, man.

Both shows have their strengths and weaknesses. Well, TAS doesn't really have weaknesses, but still, TB has it's own merits.

 

[CConn]

I kinda liken TB to BTAS as X-Men Evolution was to X-Men TAS. Are the newer shows as good as their predecessors? No. Are they as classic, as definitive? No. But, at time same time, they have their own charm, and add their own pretty interesting take on the characters.

 

[Cain]

I kinda liken TB to BTAS as X-Men Evolution was to X-Men TAS. Are the newer shows as good as their predecessors? No. Are they as classic, as definitive? No. But, at time same time, they have their own charm, and add their own pretty interesting take on the characters.

At the end of the day that's all that matters when it comes to good adaptations. If only more people could understand that instead of being so defensive and judgemental all the time.

 

[Redwoods Wolf]

I remember watching Heart of Ice for the first time and being amazed at everything--the voices, the animation, Batman himself. I think it's still my favorite episode.
They had some good lines too, which surprised me when I bought the DVD, not remembering terribly much about the show.
"Chance, Grace. Chance is everything. Whether you're born or not, whether you live or die, if you're good or bad....it's all--arbitrary."
"Think of it, Batman--to never again walk on a summer's day with a hot breeze in your face, and a warm hand to hold? Oh, yes...I would kill for that."
"Half of me wants to strangle you."
-"And the other half?"
"Hit you with a truck!"
-"We used to date."
I also liked how they didn't give the Joker an "origin," as with every other villain--it made him a cut above the rest, I think.
Very good work all around. TNBA had its moments, BB I never got into, but I liked Return of the Joker. And Justice League is very nice throughout.
I'm just sorry it's over.

 

[Rockbottom]

I could never get into TNBA, it was like they fixed what wasnt broken and TAS wasnt as unique anymore since it looked just like the Superman art style.

 

[Cain]

^ Timm just wanted to flex his improved skills, but I agree to an extent.

I also liked how they didn't give the Joker an "origin," as with every other villain--it made him a cut above the rest, I think.

Mask of the Phantasm took care of that my friend.

 

[Redwoods Wolf]

^^Not really--they never explained how he became the Joker, just that he was involved with Andrea in his "gangster days." It's just enough to give you a framework, but not so much that it tells you too much.

Of course, Penguin didn't really have an origin, either, now that I think about it...

 

[Cain]

^^Not really--they never explained how he became the Joker, just that he was involved with Andrea in his "gangster days." It's just enough to give you a framework, but not so much that it tells you too much.

Of course, Penguin didn't really have an origin, either, now that I think about it...

True they never went into serious detail but going by the fact that he was a gangster named Jack Napier & the animated series being faithful to not just the comics but the films at the time your imagination could fill the rest out. Yeah weird I don't remember an origin at all for The Penguin I think him and The Joker hold a record for that since we practically saw everybody else. Even Freeze who before TAS was shallow as hell.

 

[Abaddon]

I don't think Ivy had a TAS origin either.

 

[Redwoods Wolf]

True they never went into serious detail but going by the fact that he was a gangster named Jack Napier & the animated series being faithful to not just the comics but the films at the time your imagination could fill the rest out. Yeah weird I don't remember an origin at all for The Penguin I think him and The Joker hold a record for that since we practically saw everybody else. Even Freeze who before TAS was shallow as hell.

I liked that they didn't tell you everything. As cool as it might have been to watch Batman scaring the Red Hood into an acid bath...it's more fun to imagine and speculate.

I don't think Ivy had a TAS origin either.

...True! They just show her first attempted murder. I forgot that.
I like that they revisited her relationship with Harvey in "Almost Got Him." Nice bit of continuity.

 

[Abaddon]

I think they did actually show Batman scaring Joker into the vat in like a video recording or something, in "Beware the Creeper".

 

[Redwoods Wolf]

Really? Well, that was TNBA, which I'm not too familiar with.

 

[Two-Face]

This thread needs pics:

 

[Timstuff]

Man, I hope that Superman Doomsday leads to a Hush DTV, or even Dark Knight Returns!

 

[Darkest Knight]

I kinda liken TB to BTAS as X-Men Evolution was to X-Men TAS. Are the newer shows as good as their predecessors? No. Are they as classic, as definitive? No. But, at time same time, they have their own charm, and add their own pretty interesting take on the characters.

I agree with what you're saying, but ...

Definitive is truly in the eyes of the beholder. There is no exact style that accompanys "definitive" for ANY of these comic book characters. It is all perception, and opinion.

 

[Rockbottom]

Such a brillent design. Maybe my favourite from all of TAS. Joker and Batman were the best designs and had the best actors behind them too. I detest The Jokers design in TNBA though.