hellblazer103
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old casting choices, but i'd really love to see paul bettany, tim roth or vincent cassel as the joker :



Usually I understand why people suggest Elba in various roles (like Bond) but I don't really see him as Batman / Bruce Wayne. It is pretty tedious when Elba gets suggested for every role ever with seemingly little thought put into it.
Little thought into it?
- Great actor
- Excellent physique for the role
- A star but not someone who's too famous
- Can do the voice without going over the top.
I don't believe you properly thought out your response before you typed the above.
I may get laughed at for this, but I wouldn't be against Joshua Jackson as Bruce Wayne. But, that's just me.
I mean no offense in any way, but how would Elba play Bruce Wayne? Isn't it a requirement for him to be white? I agree, he would make an awesome Batman, I just don't see how it would work out. However, he could make the perfect Black Panther, who is pretty similar to Batman in his demeanor.
i actually think denzel washington would make a good black batman if they ever went the nick fury route.Nick Fury's black in the movies/ ultimate comics.
Why can't Bruce Wayne be black?
Nick Fury's black in the movies/ ultimate comics.
Why can't Bruce Wayne be black?
Maybe because that's the way hes been portrayed in literally every appearance of Batman in comics and other media...? Why change his race for the hell of it? So pointless when there are tons of white actors that look the part and would knock the role out of the park.
The Nick Fury comparison doesnt make sense. Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe, so the Avengers film is based on the comics. Batman isn't ever black, it would go against every incarnation of Batman...and for nothing. Idris Elba as Batman is not a good idea.wtf
There is a much, much simpler explanation for why Elba would be a bad pick: because a black Batman means a black Bruce Wayne. Which is, itself, not a problem. . . except that the Waynes have been the Princes of Gotham for generations. It stretches credibility well past the breaking point to have a black family as the pinnacle of society in mid 1800s faux-New York/Chicago.
Which is no disrespect for Idris Elba, he's one of those actors where if he wants to play a role, unless the ethnicity would literally be unworkable, rewrite the race of the character to fit the actor. Batman just isn't one of those where you can really do that.
Am just going to come out and say it...
I don't want Batman to be black. I'm not racist, I'm just a simple-minded purist in that regard.
Like I would hate if a white actor played Blade.
I want to find actors who look the part and can perform the part.
There are actors out there who fit both those criteria's.
Was I miffed about Joker being painted? A bit.
Was I miffed Lois Lane was ginger? A bit.
But I found excuses why it's OK.
Joker could have been painted white for all everybody knew in his first appearance, because it wasn't until later it showed he fell into chemicals.
And Lois WAS a red head back in the day.
Perry White being black?
Didn't bother me, because I knew his introduction into comics was via radio, so he could have been any race or whatever.
But those characters have never had a definite iconic look, not for people to really care.
But characters, Batman and Superman are white, they have features that are memorable. They are iconic in every regard. So therefore, some of us, not all of us want to see actors who look like or close to the comics.
And I believe Batman should be played by a white actor, just I believe Blade should be played by a black actor. Because that is an iconic character with an iconic look.
While I would be open to seeing a different take on the characters , including race , I can understand those who would want to maintain the establish general look of certain characters. You're arguement is actually the arguement I've been waiting to see on ths board ,because its the strongest position and makes the most sense imo.
The other arguements i've seen for not having Fishburne as Perry or a woman as Jimmy for example, usually fall apart often imo because they're based on weak foundations and overly complicated explanations.
Does anyone remember if there was any fallout or comments about Billy Dee Williams being Harvey Dent in Batman 89?
I never really hear anything about it, but it's interesting because it would seem like people would have been up in arms about it.
Also (although that version never made it to the screen) Marlon Wayons was actually cast as Robin before Joel took over for Burton.....