The Adventures of Tintin

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, Allan is in the film; and it looks like he's working together with Ivan Ivanovitch Sakharine (the collector of model ships) even though they never meet each other in the comics.

It looks like they're doing this the way Ian Fleming's Bond books were adapted, with bits taken from different books to form the movies.

But Allan might not be working with Sakharine. He might be just demanding where that scroll is in his collection of ships, or demanding the collection altogether. Didn't someone attack him eventually in Unicorn and trash the mast of his ship?

In the original Unicorn book, Tintin was buying the model ship as a gift for Haddock. But if he only meets him here and they have to establish that plot, it means that the reason for buying the ship (if that even happens) has to be different, especially since their friendship won't even be established yet. They can't only start the Unicorn plot half way through the movie, or that won't leave much time to resolve everything. I'm betting the Unicorn plot starts at the beginning of the film and overlaps with the Crab plot where Tintin meets Haddock.

 

[The Navigator]

You mean Daniel Craig right? He's not one of those characters. Red Rackham (Daniel Craig) never met Tintin or Captain Haddock though he did meet Haddock's ancestor. Craig's character only appear in the 17th-century.

Spoiler

This trailer seems to suggest differently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhZeAS7WHo

Good catch, didn't even notice Allan at first.

 

[ALP]

watched the secret of the unicorn cartoon today
really looking forward to this movie now

I just saw an episode of the Tintin cartoon from the 90s and thought it was incredibly boring. Maybe it was the episode I saw...but I hope the books are better

 

[Dark Raven]

I just saw an episode of the Tintin cartoon from the 90s and thought it was incredibly boring. Maybe it was the episode I saw...but I hope the books are better

I didn't think the cartoon was very good. The books were better. But it depends which episode you saw anyway. The early books without Captain Haddock weren't as interesting as the ones with him. There just wasn't the same dynamic.

 

[:eek:]

Nothing to do with Tintin, but since there are a lot of discussion about motion capture here, check this out:

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/05/20/vfx-head-tech-demo

 

[Timstuff]

I would prefer a traditional animated film on Tintin instead of a live-action one. It's kind of hard to cast actors that look like the characters and you can't maintain the stylized, caricatured faces like Hergé's art.

I am still baffled as to why Spielberg didn't just have Dreamworks Animation make the movie. It would have looked great and the characters would have been very lively and entertaining to look at, rather than stiff and dull. The only reason I can think of is that Spielberg was being arrogant, and although he knew that the source material was best suited to animation he still wanted to have his name up there as the director, so he resorted to motion capture so that he could direct an animated film without having to go through the animated filmmaking process (which is a lot different from live action).

I am not even that familiar with the Tintin stories, however I am a student and lifelong connoisseur of animation, and it frustrates me greatly seeing so many resources being wasted on yet another motion capture movie, even though we have already seen time and time again that they do not hold a candle to real animation, no matter how much money they throw at the technology. I'd be looking forward to this movie if it were being done the right way, but since I ready know that it's yet rusty torpedo being aimed at the hull of the animation medium I can't help but to be annoyed.

Nothing to do with Tintin, but since there are a lot of discussion about motion capture here, check this out:

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/05/20/vfx-head-tech-demo

The thing is, uncanny valley is something we put up with in video games because live action isn't an alternative. It is impressive just how far motion capture has come in that it's able to make very realistic looking characters, however we have not cleared uncanny valley yet, and even the most impressive "realistic" animation in video games still does not hold up as well as the games that have more stylized looks-- the only difference is, in video games your only options are to look like a cartoon, or looking like a semi-creepy zombie robot puppet thing. Mocap is "just barely good enough" for video games, but for movies it simply can't compete with actual live action movies and the charming 3D animation done by hand at places like Pixar and Dreamworks. Likewise, Avatar's motion capture was "just barely good enough" that you could believe the Na'vi existed in the same world as humans. If the entire movie had been just motion captured na'vi, without the humans there as an anchor point, I think audiences would have felt disconnected from the movie.

 

[ravn0s]

/Sigh

Every Timstuff post I read comes across as hating for the sake of hating. There definitely hasn't been enough footage released to decide whether the animation is stiff and dull or not. He will probably disagree though since he's a "lifelong connoisseur of animation".

I think we should all just wait until there's a full trailer before deciding whether the animation is bad or not.

 

[Timstuff]

Fine, but don't say I didn't see it coming if (and when) I'm right.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

It looks like they're doing this the way Ian Fleming's Bond books were adapted, with bits taken from different books to form the movies.

But Allan might not be working with Sakharine. He might be just demanding where that scroll is in his collection of ships, or demanding the collection altogether. Didn't someone attack him eventually in Unicorn and trash the mast of his ship?

In the original Unicorn book, Tintin was buying the model ship as a gift for Haddock. But if he only meets him here and they have to establish that plot, it means that the reason for buying the ship (if that even happens) has to be different, especially since their friendship won't even be established yet. They can't only start the Unicorn plot half way through the movie, or that won't leave much time to resolve everything. I'm betting the Unicorn plot starts at the beginning of the film and overlaps with the Crab plot where Tintin meets Haddock.

Well, from the trailer, I assume that Ivanovitch-Sakharine is the one that said "How could you let them escape?" and , in that scene, it looks like he was a bit angry towards Allan; so that's why I assume that they are working together.

And regarding the Unicorn model ships, it could be like you said; maybe Tintin isn't going to buy the ship as a gift because I was thinking of the scene in the teaser where Tintin and Milou discover one of the models of the Unicorn. That didn't happen in the comics, so I'm a bit curious to see what part of that scene plays in the film.

Spoiler

This trailer seems to suggest differently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhZeAS7WHo

Good catch, didn't even notice Allan at first.

I'm pretty amaze at how much it sounds like Daniel Craig at the end of the international teaser. It could be possible that he may played more than one character instead of just playing Red Rackham.

 

[Crockett]

Spoiler

This trailer seems to suggest differently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhZeAS7WHo

Could also be that's just how the trailer was edited.

 

[Darkness Falls]

i really hope they use this theme

[YT]N_EK_tFz9ug[/YT]

 

[FVD]

I still would've preferred a live action version of Tintin to animation. It's the same reason why we all like live action versions of movies with real actors (such as the Avengers) instead of seeing an animated film.

Where is the Calculus character in all of this? He doesn't seem to appear at all in the cast list, yet part of this movie is based on "Red Rackham's Treasure". Calculus invented the iconic shark submarine which they used to go treasure hunting. He is also a huge part of the Tintin mythos, even though his character can be quite annoying since he's hard of hearing. Couldn't he have at least had a small role?

If I recall correctly Professor Calculus never appeared in the Secret of the Unicorn comic. Don't remember much of Red Rackham's Treasure so it's a possibility that he's in that.

Ah I remember it well. The first Tintin book I read/owned was The Black Island. Never did get to read them all though. And which book was it that Tintin kept yelling "CHANG!!!!"

 

[Dark Raven]

If I recall correctly Professor Calculus never appeared in the Secret of the Unicorn comic. Don't remember much of Red Rackham's Treasure so it's a possibility that he's in that.

Ah I remember it well. The first Tintin book I read/owned was The Black Island. Never did get to read them all though. And which book was it that Tintin kept yelling "CHANG!!!!"

His debut was in Red Rackham's Treasure. He built the shark submarine that they used to go treasure hunting, and insisted on coming along with them for the trip. The movie is based partly on Unicorn and partly on Rackham.

The book where he kept yelling that was Tintin in Tibet.

Well, from the trailer, I assume that Ivanovitch-Sakharine is the one that said "How could you let them escape?" and , in that scene, it looks like he was a bit angry towards Allan; so that's why I assume that they are working together.

And regarding the Unicorn model ships, it could be like you said; maybe Tintin isn't going to buy the ship as a gift because I was thinking of the scene in the teaser where Tintin and Milou discover one of the models of the Unicorn. That didn't happen in the comics, so I'm a bit curious to see what part of that scene plays in the film.



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I'm pretty sure he'll be called Snowy in the movie and not by his French name.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

I'm pretty sure he'll be called Snowy in the movie and not by his French name.

Of course I know that, but doesn't mean that I'm going to stop calling him by the name I'm used to.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

this movie looks kinda BORING
the cgi hasn't wowed me yet either.
but hey well seeee

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Watched the trailer,and I agree with TimStuff.This is looking Zemeckis quality so far.I'll wait to see a full trailer,but so far I'm not impressed.The best use of motion capture I've seen so far is Monster House.

 

[chelo248]

check this is very interesting:

New Tintin Image Features Blood And Gunfire – UPDATED

somebody is going to get fired.

 

[Dr Lee]

Bloody hell (No pun intended)

 

[terry78]

Bloody hell (No pun intended)

You know that **** was intended.

 

[Dr Lee]

not really... Bloody hell is one of my usual shocked lines....

 

[Spider-Steve]

Hooray!

Worldpremiere for the movie will be in Belgium! In Brussels! That's very good news beacause Tintin was created by Hergé in Belgium, so i always thought it would just normal to have the worldpremiere here!

Yeehaaa!

So, how can i get my ticket for the worldpremiere? Hmmm....

 

[nite-owl]

First look at the toys.

http://superpunch.blogspot.com/2011...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+SuperPunch+(Super+Punch)

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Hooray!

Worldpremiere for the movie will be in Belgium! In Brussels! That's very good news beacause Tintin was created by Hergé in Belgium, so i always thought it would just normal to have the worldpremiere here!

Yeehaaa!

So, how can i get my ticket for the worldpremiere? Hmmm....

And rightly so. Having it somewhere else would be foolish.

First look at the toys.

http://superpunch.blogspot.com/2011...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+SuperPunch+(Super+Punch)

The figures aren't the best looking figures I've seen but, hey what the heck, I would probably buy it if I see it. t:

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

And rightly so. Having it somewhere else would be foolish.



The figures aren't the best looking figures I've seen but, hey what the heck, I would probably buy it if I see it. t:

They look fine for me since they are mass market toys and not collectors stuff.