Action-Adventure The All Encompassing Zorro thread

[Hunter Rider]

The Mark of Zorro (1940) was on Talking pictures TV this lunch time,brilliant stuff, it's filled with fantastic use of shadows andlight and has an incredible shot of Zorro trapped on a bridge like Indy in the Temple of Doom and he jumos off into the water on his horse! Tyrone Power is brimming with charm and charisma as Zorro/Diego and Basil Rathbone is on top villainous form, they both clearly but a lot into their fantastic sword fight.

 

[C. Lee]

I read that Disney's ZORRO series, starring Guy Williams, first aired today (October 10th) in 1957. It's now 65 years old (and so am I...turned 65 in June).

 

[Breogan]

You're a real Zorro fan, aren't you?

This summary is impressive!!

Yes, maybe to much,

Thanks!

I read that Disney's ZORRO series, starring Guy Williams, first aired today (October 10th) in 1957. It's now 65 years old (and so am I...turned 65 in June).

¡Felicidades! ...to you both!



I do wish Disney was doing something official to celebrate, either at the parks or on the channel.

 

[C. Lee]

Still haven't watched all the 90s (New World) Zorro series, did it end on a cliff hanger? Popular enough to garner a fan written finally, and Zorro inc. to publish, might check it out.

I have the series on DVD (been around 10 years since I watched it), I dug it out and checked. Only in the broadest sense of the word can it be considered a cliffhanger. It ends with a question being asked, a question that is similar to things asked or spoken of in other episodes.

I will put it in spoiler tags, that way you can decide if you want to read it or not....

Spoiler: how the series ends

the last 4 episodes are one interconnected story. It seems that Diego de la Vega was born with a twin brother, their crazy nurse stole one of them, Alejandro never spoke of it to anyone, the nurse raised the boy to be an evil little snot and lied to him about how she came to have him, He shows up in town as the Royal Emissary Don Gilberto Risendo and starts jailing and threatening people (like the Alcalde) with execution all over the place. He did not know that Alejandro was there, but plans an epic revenge against him because the nurse had told him that he was born with a crooked leg and that the Vegas had thrown him out with the garbage and she had rescued and nursed him back to health. In the last episode, the brothers are dueling, but Don Diego was wounded in an earlier ambush and he knows he is Zorro. As he is about to kill Diego, the Alcalde (who had escaped from jail) shoots and kills Don Gilberto...but just before he is shot, he says "When I kill you, I will have killed my brother and...." the episode ends with Alejandro asking Diego "What do you think he meant by that?" So it could have been a minor set up for a future episode or just the minor way many episodes end.

And just a FYI....Daniel Craig guests in two of the last four episodes.

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[C. Lee]

Just finished rewatching MASK OF ZORRO about a half hour ago. Love Banderas as the character....not sure about Holland though.

 

[DarkKnight88]

No Banderas, no!

Though I think he just said the first young popular person he could think of in the moment, like Al Pacino saying Timothy Chalamet for Heat 2 lol

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Without knocking any past adaption (they were all a product of their time), I think if you make a Zorro in today's day and age it would probably be best to have a real Latino playing the part?

 

[Boom]

****ing WHAT???

 

[Doctor Jones]

 

[Sawyer]

Alfonso Herrera didn’t get cloned from Banderas’s own DNA just to be snubbed in favor of that little twink. For shame.

 

[Arachnerd]

I like Tom Holland, but no. Just... no, for very obvious reasons.

Stuff like this just reassures the notion that people just fancast him for anything even if it doesn't make a lick of sense.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It's an off the cuff comment. Banderas is a bored adult going through the monotony of these press tours, doesn't give a crap, and he probably just thought of the first young person he last worked with.

It's pretty crappy of Variety to make a comment from comicbook.com of all places into a whole story, but it's best to just have a sense of humor about these things and move on.

But there's a sick part of me that would just like to see it for the pure joke of it. Movies are so boring and safe now, seeing an embarrassing Tom Holland as Zorro casting would be hilariously shocking at least.

 

[Boom]

Tenoch Huerta or I riot.

 

[Gee]

Banderas must have really liked filming with Holland on Uncharted, huh?

 

[Breogan]

...the actor shared that he’d be open to helping another hero take on the mantle.

“Yes, I would, I would consider that possibility, why not?” Banderas said when asked about returning for a potential follow-up. “If they called me to do ‘Zorro,’ I would do what Anthony Hopkins did for me, which is to pass the torch.”

Who should the torch go to in Banderas’ opinion? He put his vote down for Tom Holland, who he recently starred alongside in Sony’s “Uncharted,” based on the popular Playstation video game series.

“I did ‘Uncharted’ with him, and he’s so energetic and fun,” Banderas said of Holland’s acting style. “He’s got this spark, too. Why not?”

The way these interviews and articles are parsed out and structured for click bait, it's hard to tell who even brought up Holland?

Could have been the interviewer who suggested him, and what's he going to say no about his friend, of course he'll say why not.

Then the tools help spread the headline that he suggested Holland.

The source they link to, doesn't even mention Holland, just that yes he [Banderas] would return.
Did the Holland suggestion come from a completely different source interview, and then cobbled together ?

But hey, they got their buzz generating headline and always enough mindless twitters to spread it for them.

 

[Mysteryman]

The way these interviews and articles are parsed out and structured for click bait, it's hard to tell who even brought up Holland?

Could have been the interviewer who suggested him, and what's he going to say no about his friend, of course he'll say why not.

Then the tools help spread that headline that he suggested Holland.

The source they link to, doesn't even mention Holland, just that yes he'd return.
Did the Holland part come from a completely different source interview?

But they got their headline and enough mindless tools to spread it.

What's the problem if Banderas DID suggest Holland for, Zorro?
It was intended as an answer to a question, Not a casting announcement

 

[Boom]

What's the problem if Banderas DID suggest Holland for, Zorro?
It was intended as an answer to a question, Not a casting announcement

I just can't make peace with the suggestion. Banderas took years off my life.

 

[Breogan]

I like Tom Holland, but no. Just... no, for very obvious reasons.

Stuff like this just reassures the notion that people just fancast him for anything even if it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Without knocking any past adaption (they were all a product of their time), I think if you make a Zorro in today's day and age it would probably be best to have a real Latino playing the part?

Agree, and he's probably keenly aware of this, again depending who threw Holland out there, he was likely just being generous about a friend, not wanting to be negative about anything.
(who in al fairness could read as the son of Banderas and Zet-Jones)
Though he was playing Mexican and she also Spanish - Native American) any legacy character should somewhat reflect that.

That said, I would love to see Banderas back as old man Zorro. Now doing the Anthony Hopkins shtick training and passing the mantle to the next gen (who yes should be Mexican-American)

If I remember correctly, following Mask & Legend continuity, it had an alternate ending where they infer exactly that, with the now gown up Joaquin taking up the mantle.
This is very much in line with the cinematic legacy of the character.

....the idea of legacy has been a part of the character since second Fairbanks Zorro movie (1925) Son of Zorro . Here fighting along his son.

And was carried into the Zorro Republic serials which had future - "modern" legacy Zorro. [descendants of the original] .... Swinging from city roof tops, Bernardo's descendant driving a black coop, and fighting mobsters with tommy-guns..
...before the popular image of Batman being shot at by mobsters while swinging from modern city rooftops ever existed,
Zorro's [descendant] was already doing it!

1937)

(1939)
...this is a legitimate part of the character; Zorro can be, has been, and is a legacy character, passing the mantle to future generations

It would make for a fitting time jump. as Mask starts about 1821 with Diego De La Vega Zorro
Then transitions 20 years to Alejandro Murieta taking up the mantle
And could now be another 20 years to him passing the mantle to his and Elena's son.

 

[Jack Clock]

Hi Zorro fans! I'm happy to join you guys!

Yeah, there was an alternate ending to Legend of Zorro, as well as an alternate beginning. It's a shame too because it would've been perfect for a next movie, but the filmmakers wanted to milk more of Antonio Banderas playing Zorro. Didn't turn out well for them though :/

 

[DarkKnight88]

He did get to play more Zorro though. Just as Puss in Boots lol

 

[Jack Clock]

He did get to play more Zorro though. Just as Puss in Boots lol

True, but I more mean like Legend of Zorro never got a sequel because the people behind it were too interested in playing it safe, something I hope the upcoming TV shows from Disney+ and Sequoya Studios will learn from when making their own Zorro projects

 

[Dave McFly]

rewatched mask of zorro last weekend forgot how amazing it is and still holds up 25 plus years later from the awesome casting and amazing music by the late great James Horner it is just an epic movie and I wonder if any other film they make can come near as close to awesome as that one was.

 

[Jack Clock]

rewatched mask of zorro last weekend forgot how amazing it is and still holds up 25 plus years later from the awesome casting and amazing music by the late great James Horner it is just an epic movie and I wonder if any other film they make can come near as close to awesome as that one was.

I recommend you should try out some of the older Zorro movies/shows, as Mask of Zorro has a lot of DNA from older works. You'd be right at home watching the silent film, the 1940 film or Zorro's Fighting Legion

 

[Mani-Man]

Maybe for All of you zorro Fans interesting:

Sean Gordon Murphy who may some know from his Batman White Knight comics, seems to have started Working on a Zorro Comic.