The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[chaseter]

Exactly. Besides, The first two weeks would be critical for TAS anyway, even without TDKR. Movies usually gross the most in the first two weeks and then everything depends on WOM. What TAS has to do in order to prove its sustainability is to make more than $200m by the second weekend and reach $300m in the third week. Otherwise, it's fate will be already foreseen.

Yes you are correct. It has to make well over $200 million, I would say $250ish, in it's first two weeks if it is to have any shot at passing $300 million because TDKR comes out two weeks after it. But, I just don't see that happening. TDKR is going to be massive. It's going to be Harry Potter massive, if not a bit bigger.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

its important to remember other movies around Spidey in 2012.

Exactly. It's one of the busiest years in movies.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Yes you are correct. It has to make well over $200 million, I would say $250ish, in it's first two weeks if it is to have any shot at passing $300 million because TDKR comes out two weeks after it. But, I just don't see that happening. TDKR is going to be massive. It's going to be Harry Potter massive, if not a bit bigger.

You don't? How come?

 

[spider-neil]

Yes you are correct. It has to make well over $200 million, I would say $250ish, in it's first two weeks if it is to have any shot at passing $300 million because TDKR comes out two weeks after it. But, I just don't see that happening. TDKR is going to be massive. It's going to be Harry Potter massive, if not a bit bigger.

I don't think it will to be honest, not without joker or someone kicking the bucket. it will be big, no doubt, but I don't think it is going to make anywhere near as much as TDK did.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't think it will to be honest, not without joker or someone kicking the bucket. it will be big, no doubt, but I don't think it is going to make anywhere near as much as TDK did.

Ehhh, I'm not sure about that. I mena, I don't expect it to get the same response TDK did at all because Heath isn't in it, but it say will most likely make A LOT at the box office. Avengers is another competitor which is VERY hyped.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Ehhh, I'm not sure about that. I mena, I don't expect it to get the same response TDK did at all because Heath isn't in it, but it say will most likely make A LOT at the box office. Avengers is another competitor which is VERY hyped.

Heath wasn't the reason it made so much. WB filmed the whole film in 3D, good WOM of BB and rising reputation of Nolan, as well as well-done marketing, were the main reasons behind the film's success. Ledger was the reason the film got the Oscar, not because it became one of top grossing movies ever.

Besides, it's also important to note that WB re-released it in January'09 in order to promote it for Academy Awards and finally reach $1b WW.

 

[hatebox]

Heath wasn't the reason it made so much. WB filmed the whole film in 3D, good WOM of BB and rising reputation of Nolan, as well as well-done marketing, were the main reasons behind the film's success.

Think you got the wrong movie there, dude.

Domestically TDKR won't make as much as its predecessor. The Ledger death arguments are pathetic, but there's no denying the lack of Joker will hurt. He made massive amounts for Batman '89 and he did again for TDK.

But what really matters is that the film's good. Nolan's blockbusters have always relied on great legs to get the big bucks, and I don't see why this should be any different.

International is guaranteed to increase for TDKR though. Bank on that.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Besides, it's also important to note that WB re-released it in January'09 in order to promote it for Academy Awards and finally reach $1b WW.

This is very true.

 

[hatebox]

It only made about a million from that re-release.

 

[BattleCat]

It can't be guaranteed this movie will do well, just because it's spiderman. Hell, superman returns didn't do good and that was well received by critics.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Think you got the wrong movie there, dude.

Domestically TDKR won't make as much as its predecessor. The Ledger death arguments are pathetic, but there's no denying the lack of Joker will hurt. He made massive amounts for Batman '89 and he did again for TDK.

But what really matters is that the film's good. Nolan's blockbusters have always relied on great legs to get the big bucks, and I don't see why this should be any different.

International is guaranteed to increase for TDKR though. Bank on that.

I haven't got anything wrong, as I do admit that TDK was a success because of its quality and acclaim, which gave it great legs. Yet, if not the proper promotion and the names behind the film, it would never have such a massive opening.

Joker is another aspect, indeed.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I love watching fanboys fighting over nothing but their sheer love of a particular character...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I expected this to become an arguement, lol.

 

[spider-neil]

It can't be guaranteed this movie will do well, just because it's spiderman. Hell, superman returns didn't do good and that was well received by critics.

SR didn't do well because it was a borefest

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I expected this to become an arguement, lol.

Oh things are going to get alot uglier between Bat-fans and Spider-fans in the next year...

Every penny at the box office and % on rotten tomatoes is going to count.

t:

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

Oh things are going to get alot uglier between Bat-fans and Spider-fans in the next year...

Every penny at the box office and % on rotten tomatoes is going to count.

t:

Cant wait for that.

 

[Billy the Poet]

SR didn't do well because it was a borefest

Though I usually agree with you, to be honest, there's no guarantee TAS will bore general audience as well.

SR had a problem being a requel to the movies that took place almost 30 years prior to its release, as well as it lacked a real supervillain and reason to distniguish itself from others, and, finally, never appealed to its target audience.

TAS is facing a problem of being a "darker re-origin" of Spider-man, as well as the reboot is also happening slightly after the end of the previous films and, lastly, judging by its teaser, the film is barely different from the first film in the opinion of some.

I am aware that we have a whole year and openions change, especially when they don't make up for even a half of the general point of view. Yet, these issues must be seriously considered by Sony's marketing team next time they release anything else.

I think Sony has to really revise its strategy and find the appropriate application of it to promote the film in a way it satisfies the larget part of its target audience. If not, then the situation with SR is going to repeat itself.

Personally, I am more optimistic about the future of this trilogy and I do believe that soon the film will find its way to the heart of its audience. Everything takes time.

 

[spider-neil]

as long as spidey makes enough for a sequel, that is good enough for me.
this new movie is too tough to call as it is pretty unprecedented for a franchise to be rebooted at the high of it's popularity.

 

[Billy the Poet]

I'm still concerned as for what budget the film has. If it's anything over $200m, then it will be hard to top Sony's expectations. If not, I am sure grossing anything over $300m domestically will be surely enough for sequels.

Another problem TAS may face is the similarity in target audience with TDKR. I highly doubt TAS is aiming at kids, especially if Ice Age 4 comes out right the week after TAS. Thus, its viewers will most likely be 14-20, which is comparable to TDKR's 17-25.

TAS will most likely appeal to teenagers, who want to watch some good action blockbuster, fans and couples (a good alternative for a date, as it has appropriate lead stars in it). It may also benefit from the Independence Day.

TDK will be mostly fans and male adolescents. I don't think that would be a good film for a date or family time.

 

[hatebox]

I haven't got anything wrong,

You said TDK was filmed in 3D...? I'm not trying to score points, but even TDKR isn't in 3D...

 

[Batarang]

I agree about The Amazing Spider-Man being a little more accessible for families. Dates? I'm not so sure. I'd take a date to see The Dark Knight Rises. I'd take one to see TAS, too. It's amazing (no pun intended) how all of this stuff has played into discussions about box office gross of these films. I have a bad feeling that next year will be more about which movie makes more instead of fans just enjoying the hype for the films and the films themselves.

Why does it have to be a competition?

 

[Billy the Poet]

You said TDK was filmed in 3D...? I'm not trying to score points, but even TDKR isn't in 3D...

My bad, indeed. I meant IMAX camera. As I know, it was shot using IMAX, wasn't it?

 

[Billy the Poet]

I agree about The Amazing Spider-Man being a little more accessible for families. Dates? I'm not so sure. I'd take a date to see The Dark Knight Rises. I'd take one to see TAS, too. It's amazing (no pun intended) how all of this stuff has played into discussions about box office gross of these films. I have a bad feeling that next year will be more about which movie makes more instead of fans just enjoying the hype for the films and the films themselves.

Why does it have to be a competition?

I'm a fan of both Batman and Spider-man, so I really don't care as long as I enjoy both.

Yet, I am worried TAS may not be able to make enough money in order to justify sequels. Worse than that, TDKR comes out just two weeks after TAS is released. So, it's got two weeks to make its most, because, then, majority will attend TDKR and TAS's survival will definitely depend on its legs.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

as long as spidey makes enough for a sequel, that is good enough for me.
this new movie is too tough to call as it is pretty unprecedented for a franchise to be rebooted at the high of it's popularity.

Agreed, though, I hope it's worth a sequel.

 

[©KAW]

I'm a fan of both Batman and Spider-man, so I really don't care as long as I enjoy both.

Yet, I am worried TAS may not be able to make enough money in order to justify sequels. Worse than that, TDKR comes out just two weeks after TAS is released. So, it's got two weeks to make its most, because, then, majority will attend TDKR and TAS's survival will definitely depend on its legs.

Sony has no choice but to release a sequel, that's written in stone. If not, they loose the Spider-Man movie rights to MARVEL, and they simply won't allow that. Just look how FOX is holding on to X-MEN.