The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[MessiahDecoy123]

Also I'd like to add that the Spider-man movies were on the decline but ASM2 should reverse that trend.

Spider-man 5 most likely wouldn't have reversed the trend.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

All I cared about prior to this films release about the opening was that it would make enough to warrant a sequel, which at this point it has done.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I don't mind Spidey fighting unmasked. But considering he did it in all 3 movies while saving Mary Jane it started to feel redundant.
The only unmasked scene I think it's really stupid is the alley fight in SM1, where he puts on everything except the mask. It makes no sense. The mask was the most important part and it's quicker to put on than the rest of his suit.
You can't say it's to show emotion, you can barely see his face because it's dark and he's flipping.

In ASM I think they found good reasons for Parker to take off his mask that served the character and story where the Raimi movies took off Spidey's mask for pointless reasons.

 

[acejammer31]

Hey, I thought that this was the Box Office Thread! There seems to be a lot of arguing about critics going on. Personally I loved the film and their take on the origin. However, I don't think that it is his father that leads him to becoming a hero, it's his uncle and Captain Stacy. His curiosity in his father's work guides him towards the spider room. But anyway...I totally agree with Messiah. For a reboot, this is doing quite well. Plenty well to (financially) justify it.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

ASM will double its domestic haul overseas. It wont do Avengers business, but it will do big business. 600 million plus, which is more than fine under the circumstances.

If the sequel ups the "wow" factor, and is an all around better movie, it should do significantly better.

 

[Blade X]

You do know that only fanboys care about that, right?

Do you have any proof that only "fanboys" care about his mask being off? This is a superhero movie and most people, be they hardcore comic book fans or non comic book readers, expect Spidey to wear the damn mask.

 

[Tony Stark]

OK let's all take a deep breath guys. I don't think it's right to say that only fanboys want the mask on. That complaint definitely came up during the Raimi movies, and here it's no different.

I can understand they want to show the face of the actor, but at the same time, I'd just like to see once Spider-man go through an entire fight without getting his mask ripped off, or without revealing his identity to the bad guys. Now with Goblin it's understandable, because that happened in the comics. Other than that I wish his identity would remain safe for a while.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I think we're the only ones that "really" care about the mask thing.

 

[Eddie Brock]

I think we're the only ones that "really" care about the mask thing.

 

[Jexx]

I don't care about it.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

neither do I. I mean, the parts where he had his mask off were logical and pretty short. We got plenty of Spider-man with the mask, so it's not really a problem

besides, there's not really that much you can do with acting when you wear a mask, so I'm glad that he didn't wear it during the most emotional parts

 

[Spiderdevil]

Good thing Raimi's Spider-Man never did anything like that. Oh... wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeN8bCivssU#t=46m54s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeN8bCivssU#t=77m14s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeN8bCivssU#t=82m43s

Fail!!
These arent split second disappearance like the one we saw in TASM

 

[Spiderdevil]

Except Spidey isn't shown to have jumped on the ceiling or a ledge in that scene with the burglar. He just vanishes.

He doesnt actually,the police flash light focuses on him and in the time it took for police to get into the building he got out and away
In the other 2 instances he obviously jumps and latches on to the wall/ceiling

I love TASM but that disappearing act is ridiculous,that kind only look good in a Batman movie

And Spidey in Raimi's isn't? He would be as guilty in Raimi's '02 film than in TAS-M as the jurors would easily say Peter was guilty of killing that burglar(who didn't even kill anyone himself).

Nope,he fell off himself,Peter just hit out in self-defence and the poor guy pissed his pants and tripped and fell

SM1 was the most perfect superhero origin movie ever made.Period

 

[Spiderdevil]

As long as you know he just disappears without the cops even noticing. Same thing of using an ability that Spider-Man doesn't have, correct?

Spidey is very fast,he can disappear
But there is a difference between disappearing from a abandoned warehouse and a car.And the time difference was lower in the car thingy.

In SM1 spidey probably leapt from another window and swung away,easy disappearance and realistic for his powers aswell.Absolutely no one complained about the scene before TASM

In TASM,He is already in the car,How the **** did he do that?
Okay apart from that,how did he disappear suddenly,yes we hear a bang but the cop doesnt even see spidey rounding him and coming from behind!!

Plus...Spidey most likely just went inside the exact same time the burglar unlocks the car. The is the only answer anyways since the thief had to use something to unlock the car.

And the burgular didnt notice someone climb the car along with him?

Plus you are wrong,spiderman was already inside

Who cares if there was fingerprints on that gun and knife? The cops only see the burglar falling down and then going up to see Spidey standing there;

You said it yourself,the cop go up to arrest him,which gives him more than enough time to escape

zero proof that shows the burglar fell from his own ignorance of tripping.

Not from the audience POV

I think you're joking in trying to defend that silly point. Peter will be slammed as guilty because there's no way he could be found not guilty.

He isnt guilty,he twisted the hand out of self defence and the burgular tripped himself

 

[Scarlettess]

He doesnt actually,the police flash light focuses on him and in the time it took for police to get into the building he got out and away
In the other 2 instances he obviously jumps and latches on to the wall/ceiling

I love TASM but that disappearing act is ridiculous,that kind only look good in a Batman movie

Nope,he fell off himself,Peter just hit out in self-defence and the poor guy pissed his pants and tripped and fell

SM1 was the most perfect superhero origin movie ever made.Period

Only that reasoning doesn't really work because Batman doesn't have superpowers or is super-quick like Spidey's suppose to be. So you can believe Batman can do a vanishing act but Spider-Man can't? oookay....

anyway I already sussed it...he got in through the sunroof. ;-)

edit: also can you take this to another thread or something as this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[Spiderdevil]

But you have said TDK is still overrated, which is ridiculous to say. If you even say it's the best Batman film overall, how can it be overrated?

And also, you have said Spider-Man 3 is still great as its flaws, even telling me that I should look past those flaws since I look past some flaws on The Dark Knight. Totally different situation when S-M 3's flaws kills the movie.

1.The dance scene
2.The ridiculous changed plot line of Uncle Ben's death
3.Too little screen time for Venom

Apart from these 3 major flaws SM3 is a pretty amazing movie

 

[GuestStar2004]

SM1 was the most perfect superhero origin movie ever made.Period

in your appinion

i find so many things wrong with it myself

 

[Spiderdevil]

He got in through the sunroof.

Maybe he did,but they should have showed that instead of showing a spider-ninja

Also if Norman has super hearing that he can hear a SINGLE drop of blood hit the floor, then how does he NOT hear Spidey crawling?

He probably jumped out of the video before the drop even hit the floor
Look,I've no problem with disappearing acts.But it should make a bit of sense in the movie and should look good

Look I'm not looking for a debate but your defense for your argument is just silly. Of course both movies have some cheese in it....it's Spider-Man! Avengers was cheesy too, heck even some of the lines in BB and TDK were cheesy. To say ASM is mooore cheesy than the Raimi trilogy? that's your opinion but I disagree.

Definitely not more cheesy but the whole scene was ridiculous
There were better ways to show it

 

[Spider-Fan]

RottenTomatoes (user): SM1 - 65%, TASM - 84%
IMDb (user): SM1 - 7.4/10, TASM - 7.7/10

Things like this are not great for polling data, either. Fanboys often vote a movie like SM1 down because they want the reboot to succeed and vice versa. I don't think these sites are good gages of the general public's opinion. When I saw this Thursday night in IMAX, my auditorium was not even half full. That wouldn't have happened with the previous films.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Haha it's actually hilarious some people trying their hardest to nitpick about every little thing in this movie.
The amount of cheese in the raimi trilogy could feed all vermins rats.

There is a difference between cheese and being plain ridiculous

I have no problem with cheese(Like the crane thing) but the car-jacker scene is plain ridiculous

 

[Spiderdevil]

Spidey getting in and out of the car without making a noise is artistic licence. Something done for effect.

This happens in many films, and used by some of the best directors.

The most memorable moment in Jurassic Park occurs when water in a glass begins to move as the T Rex approaches. Yet, later when the Raptures are close to eating everyone the day is saved when the T Rex attacks the Raptures. In that moment she somehow enter a building without making a sound.

If you're going to hold every film to the level of scrutiny you're not going to like many films.

Exactly,Those things looked good in that movie.It didnt look good here,perhaps in a different situation it would have looked good but it did not at that particular instance

 

[Spiderdevil]

Whoever thinks Sm3 is better than TASM is(IMO) crazy. There's no way that that atrocity is better than TASM. I suppose it's all a matter of opinion..

Action is better than 10 TASM's put together
Best in comic book movie

 

[Spiderdevil]

but still you have four people in the room and him on the roof, how does he move without a single person hearing him?

1.He lands on his room loudly
2.They hear him and go to his room
3.Peter jumps up and sticks to the ceiling and they dont hear him as it drowns in the noise of 4 people climbing the stairs
4.He only starts moving when only Norman remains and the drop is in mid air

Anyway the point is,the disappearance act looked good there,I doubt you ever complained about it before TASM
The Disappearance act in TASM looks ridiculous

more importantly, how does he not cast a shadow anywhere in a brightly lit bedroom?

There was no light source above him,so no shadow
And even if there was,no one looks at shadows and the shadow probably merged with 4 other shadows and they didnt notice

 

[Scarlettess]

Spidey is very fast,he can disappear
But there is a difference between disappearing from a abandoned warehouse and a car.And the time difference was lower in the car thingy.

You just said it yourself. Also you HEARD the door slam as he got out.

In SM1 spidey probably leapt from another window and swung away,easy disappearance and realistic for his powers aswell.Absolutely no one complained about the scene before TASM

In TASM,He is already in the car,How the **** did he do that?
Okay apart from that,how did he disappear suddenly,yes we hear a bang but the cop doesnt even see spidey rounding him and coming from behind!!

and Noone is complaining about the scene in TASM except for you two. Here's a thought, maybe the writers did that as to let the audience 'run' with their imagination on how he did that? you know like we're doing now? We don't need everything painted by numbers, but obviously some of you do. It would have taken away the humor from the scene if they showed Spidey getting into the car.

And the burgular didnt notice someone climb the car along with him?

Plus you are wrong,spiderman was already inside

How would have he noticed? Spidey got in either from the otherside at same time or the top beforehand. All he wants to do is get out of there as fast as he can so why on earth would he bother looking in the back? He noticed when he looked in the mirror when he was about to reverse the car.

and how do you know? did you write the script? he's quick like you said.

You said it yourself,the cop go up to arrest him,which gives him more than enough time to escape


Not from the audience POV

Yes, we as the audience know he wasn't guilty. But spidey twisted his arm and he tripped over the pipe, the police and jury wouldn't see it like that, apart from him being the only other person in the abandoned warehouse at that moment, and seeing the burglar fall from where Spidey now is standing, that's enough evidence alone to pin on him, plus the guy would have marks on his wrist, which to them would just be more evidence of him pushing him. Even MJ found it hard to believe him.

He isnt guilty,he twisted the hand out of self defence and the burgular tripped himself[/QUOTE]

how do they know it was self defense? how do they know he tripped and spidey didn't kick him?

this the last post relating to this as i said earlier this isn't the thread for it put to keep my post on topic considering all the hate this movie had it's doing incredibly well numbers wise.

 

[GuestStar2004]

honestly anyone who has a problem with spiderman appearing in the back of the car needs to get over it, its there for effect, the same way batman can vanish without a sound

if you have that much problem with that scene then fine you dont have to like the film if you dont want, same way i have loads of problems with SM1 and which is why i aint a big fan of it, you would be lucky if you caught me watching it for longer then 10 min