The Amazing Spider-Man

[hippie_hunter]

Quesada says that the script that reveals what Mary-Jane whispered to Mephisto is in his hands, but will be released sometime early next year.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

so i really hope all continuity hasn't gone to hell... and Chameleon next issues remembers Mj and the beating she gave him.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

oh and a side note that i just realized... but shouldn't doc ock's brain trauma from the past be healed when he was resurrected by the hand?

 

[The Mighty Thor]

What gets me from reading the latest Cup o' Joe article is that Quesada actually thinks OMD was a good move for the character. He truly believes that he's done the franchise a favour.

what I’ve said in the past was that there were three genies that I wanted to get back in the bottle.

Cut down the number of mutants so that they became special again. See “House of M.”
Make the Marvel Universe as unpredictable a place as it was in the early 1960s. See “Civil War.”
Bring Peter Parker back to single status. See “One More Day.”
So, no hints necessary, so far all missions accomplished and it only took me close to ten years.

 

[bryanss3]

Joe Quesada's Marvel Goals List
1. Theres too many mutants what do i do? depower all of 97% of them. See "HOUSE of M"
2. Make things unpredictable how do I do that? Make all the superheroes fight each other in a mis-characterized story using a political analogy that the writer doesn't truly understand only to give the Marvel U a new Slogan "who do you trust". See "Civil War"
3. Make Spider-Man single again cause thats where I personallyMarvel wants the character. See "ONE MORE DAY"
4. Only do covers. I'm EIC i don't have to draw comics anymore.

 

[Themanofbat]

I don't think it was a personal vendetta with JQ... maybe he was all for it, but he certainly CANNOT make such a change without the backing of Marvel Comics Inc... and we know that Marvel has wanted a single Peter Parker since the early 90's...

 

[random_havoc]

so i really hope all continuity hasn't gone to hell... and Chameleon next issues remembers Mj and the beating she gave him.

I read my advanced copy. You will be disappointed.

But hey, the continuity in ASM is JUST FINE, they haven't crapped on it AT ALL *makes sure Quesada brand blinders are still firmly in place*

 

[Blader5489]

Didn't Chameleon lose his memory after his failed attempt at suicide?

 

[SpideyInATree]

But hey, the continuity in ASM is JUST FINE, they haven't crapped on it AT ALL *makes sure Quesada brand blinders are still firmly in place*

I wouldn't say the continuity is perfect. I also wouldn't say that they have crapped on it either. Actually I just wish they would come out and explain what's still in and what's out. Because in # 602 Chameleon says "Peter Parker...why is that name so familiar?". Obviously, the whole "mind wipe" thing has probably affected more than just Peter's identity. If his villains who knew he was Peter Parker, knew Mary Jane was his wife, then Chameleon is obviously not going to recall being beat by her since, because of One More Day, they were never married.

I haven't read this issue, as it's not out. Yet somehow you magically have an advanced copy. For someone who "proudly" has not bought an issue of Amazing Spider-Man since One More Day you certainly like reading them.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I wouldn't say the continuity is perfect. I also wouldn't say that they have crapped on it either. Actually I just wish they would come out and explain what's still in and what's out. Because in # 602 Chameleon says "Peter Parker...why is that name so familiar?". Obviously, the whole "mind wipe" thing has probably affected more than just Peter's identity. If his villains who knew he was Peter Parker, knew Mary Jane was his wife, then Chameleon is obviously not going to recall being beat by her since, because of One More Day, they were never married.

From what we're told, it doesn't matter that they weren't married. They were a live in couple, which is just as good and allows everything that's happened over the past 20 years happen just the same... supposedly.

I haven't read this issue, as it's not out. Yet somehow you magically have an advanced copy. For someone who "proudly" has not bought an issue of Amazing Spider-Man since One More Day you certainly like reading them.[/QUOTE]

He gets them sent to him for free (online I think) due to his being a reviewer.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I don't think it was a personal vendetta with JQ... maybe he was all for it, but he certainly CANNOT make such a change without the backing of Marvel Comics Inc... and we know that Marvel has wanted a single Peter Parker since the early 90's...

Unless it was a personal vendetta and since Marvel has been wanting it as well they allowed him his vendetta as well as the chance of taking the blame for it. If they wanted it erased before now they would have made it happen somewhere over the past 20 years. Remember, the mutants, the marraige... these were genies that QUESADA wanted to put back in the bottle during his tenure. He's been stating his plan for years before any of it happened.

And honestly, Quesada is the face-man of marvel. He was pushing for the single Spider-Man (he himself had stated it for years) so by all rights he should be the focal point of the blame. I'm sure that there are others higher up who supported OMD but Quesada's the point man. It happened during his tenure. He gets the finger pointed at him.

 

[SpideyInATree]

From what we're told, it doesn't matter that they weren't married. They were a live in couple, which is just as good and allows everything that's happened over the past 20 years happen just the same... supposedly.

I haven't read this issue, as it's not out. Yet somehow you magically have an advanced copy. For someone who "proudly" has not bought an issue of Amazing Spider-Man since One More Day you certainly like reading them.

He gets them sent to him for free (online I think) due to his being a reviewer.[/QUOTE]

Who does he review for? I'd actually like to go to where he reviews at. I also hope he doesn't get paid for these reviews either from the comments I've seen him make on the various threads around here.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I don't recall. Silver Bullet maybe? Something like that. I seldom read reviews save for on here.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I'll have to check that out. Because if that guy can review comics so can I. I'd like to contact the website and be a reviewer as well. I just want to get comics sent to me for free mainly.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

I don't think it was a personal vendetta with JQ... maybe he was all for it, but he certainly CANNOT make such a change without the backing of Marvel Comics Inc... and we know that Marvel has wanted a single Peter Parker since the early 90's...

Note the key phrase in that quote: I wanted.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Unless it was a personal vendetta and since Marvel has been wanting it as well they allowed him his vendetta as well as the chance of taking the blame for it. If they wanted it erased before now they would have made it happen somewhere over the past 20 years. Remember, the mutants, the marraige... these were genies that QUESADA wanted to put back in the bottle during his tenure. He's been stating his plan for years before any of it happened.

And honestly, Quesada is the face-man of marvel. He was pushing for the single Spider-Man (he himself had stated it for years) so by all rights he should be the focal point of the blame. I'm sure that there are others higher up who supported OMD but Quesada's the point man. It happened during his tenure. He gets the finger pointed at him.

That's what the whole Clone Saga was for. But fans didn't like it then either and switched back to say Pete was the real deal and Ben was the clone.

But, as The Mighty Thor said, the key phrase was I wanted.

This is why he is the target of most of us who are against this retcon.

 

[Tron Bonne]

EDIT: Oops, missed it

 

[JewishHobbit]

That's what the whole Clone Saga was for. But fans didn't like it then either and switched back to say Pete was the real deal and Ben was the clone.

But, as The Mighty Thor said, the key phrase was I wanted.

This is why he is the target of most of us who are against this retcon.

Defalco had just said in a recent interview that that wasn't the intension of the Clone Saga when he was in the inititial plannings of it.

 

[bryanss3]

link?

 

[Kitsune]

Joe Quesada's Marvel Goals List
1. Theres too many mutants what do i do? depower all of 97% of them. See "HOUSE of M"
2. Make things unpredictable how do I do that? Make all the superheroes fight each other in a mis-characterized story using a political analogy that the writer doesn't truly understand only to give the Marvel U a new Slogan "who do you trust". See "Civil War"
3. Make Spider-Man single again cause thats where I personallyMarvel wants the character. See "ONE MORE DAY"
4. Only do covers. I'm EIC i don't have to draw comics anymore.

Don't forget "Reboot a successful series with totally different characters and premise that have nothing to do with the previous successful book.Top the whole thing off with horrible art, and then wonder why it didn't work, when doing almost the same thing had worked to revamp an unsuccessful book."

 

[BlackLantern]

He's also the second longest tenured EIC at this point...he has to be doing something effective to stay in that chair....or maybe he likes all the punishment....and so what he doesn't draw anymore (or just do covers) he is the EDITOR IN CHIEF...most people in that position (newspapers, magazines) don't do articles or stories regularly, or if they do its a short piece or something infrequent....I know the EICs for magazines like Game Informer and PSM write a small 'hello' piece at the start of each issue, but thats like 3 paragraphs and its just an overview of whats in the mag for that month

 

[BlackLantern]

I cant speak for what else is going on at Marvel because ASM is the only Marvel title Im buying regularly right now

 

[bryanss3]

I was just kidding about the only doing covers thing. I'd just like to see him do a comic sometime soon. I like his art.

 

[farmernudie]

To be fair, Joe has done some really good stuff for MArvel.

And I do like his art, quite often.

However, Spider-specific...i feel he has somehow mangled the characater I've always looked up to the most and faithfully bought and read since the start.

616 Spider-Man, imo, doesn't appear in ANY issues of the Marve Universe any longer.

 

[bryanss3]

I saw 616 Spider-man the other day walking down the street. He's in Massachusetts hiding out.