World The Avengers vs. the Autobots

[Clecks]

So how can a sonic boom hurt a Transformer? Especially one like Metroplex who is a City... Oh yeah it's called the ThunderClap...

I was being sarcastic there mind! What i was saying was the savage hulk has the raw potential to lift up a mountain sorry but i dont think even metroplex could do that. So could you imagine what he could do to a robot.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I was being sarcastic there mind! What i was saying was the savage hulk has the raw potential to lift up a mountain sorry but i dont think even metroplex could do that. So could you imagine what he could do to a robot.

If you look at Metroplex's bio it states that:While some Transformers can crack a mountainside this subject can easily lift one.I have no coment on Hulk vrs Transformers at this time.

 

[Strong Guy]

That's another what if?

 

[1987olds442]

I was being sarcastic there mind! What i was saying was the savage hulk has the raw potential to lift up a mountain sorry but i dont think even metroplex could do that. So could you imagine what he could do to a robot.

Seeing how the Hulk is my favorite marvel character of all time, and I have been reading and collecting Hulk comics since issue 380 vol. 2 so I think I know something about him. And I think you need to look the term sarcasm if you think you were using it correctly So you do know that Metroplex is actually bigger then a Mountain don't you? Also a lot of the Transformers are in the 50-100 ton range. The mini-bot Brawn is in the 95 ton range alone, and Omega Supreme is in the 300,000 tons weight class. But this isn't anything to get worked up over it's all just fiction.

Startlingly versatile, staggeringly strong, the Autobot's last line of defense... a mighty insturment of titanic destructive force. Extremely modest about his achievements... berates himself for not doing more. In robot mode, he can lift 70,000 tons, has shoulder-mounted twin high-energy maser cannons and omni-directional receiving and transmitting antenna. In city mode, has helipad and fully equipped repair bays that can handle four vehicles at once. Left rear tower transforms into tank, Slammer, who has rocket-propelled mortar cannon. Scamper is sports car with side mounted electro-blasters; transforms into robot, uses high-energy particle beam pistol. Six-Gun is small robot, has ion-pulse rifles for arms, twin surface-to-air guided missile launchers on back, acetylene pistol. In battle station mode, uses all these weapons and twin disrupter rays, laser lances, powerful anti-matter projectors.

 

[Clecks]

Seeing how the Hulk is my favorite marvel character of all time, and I have been reading and collecting Hulk comics since issue 380 vol. 2 so I think I know something about him. And I think you need to look the term sarcasm if you think you were using it correctly So you do know that Metroplex is actually bigger then a Mountain don't you? Also a lot of the Transformers are in the 50-100 ton range. The mini-bot Brawn is in the 95 ton range alone, and Omega Supreme is in the 300,000 tons weight class. But this isn't anything to get worked up over it's all just fiction.

I retract my statement!

 

[Strong Guy]

You guys sure did your homework.

 

[Arcturus]

the autobots win.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

just based on their size and firepower, the Autobots could kill a third of the Marvel Universe if it came down to it (let alone what the Decepticons would be capable of).

Doubtful. Thor, Iron Man, Panther, Captain America, and Firestar alone defeated an entire army of hundreds of Ultrons, and kicked their asses. And Ultron is every bit as ruthless as any Decepticon, if not more so.

And really; have the Sentinel robots ever had any real success against the X-Men? (No, they havent). Magneto or Polaris would crush any and all Transformers in a heartbeat.

 

[Jochimus]

Doubtful. Thor, Iron Man, Panther, Captain America, and Firestar alone defeated an entire army of hundreds of Ultrons, and kicked their asses. And Ultron is every bit as ruthless as any Decepticon, if not more so.

And really; have the Sentinel robots ever had any real success against the X-Men? (No, they havent). Magneto or Polaris would crush any and all Transformers in a heartbeat.

...I didn't say WHICH third. Hence my earlier post:

I'm gonna have to say the Avengers. 'Specially if it's any roster with the Big Three in there - between the two of them, Thor and Iron Man would have fun sizzling circuits. The Autobots wouldn't be able to do dip since they won't harm humans or humanoid life forms.

IMO it's not a question of firepower.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Doubtful. Thor, Iron Man, Panther, Captain America, and Firestar alone defeated an entire army of hundreds of Ultrons, and kicked their asses. And Ultron is every bit as ruthless as any Decepticon, if not more so.

And really; have the Sentinel robots ever had any real success against the X-Men? (No, they havent). Magneto or Polaris would crush any and all Transformers in a heartbeat.

First of all that army of Ultrons were drone units being controled by the main Ultron.If all the Ultrons were free minded like The Transformers the fight might not have gone the same way for the Avengers.
The same goes for the Sentinels.Their not lining robots.Being a living robots change's a few things IMO.
I think it comes down to one thing...and that would be the avengers line-up in this so-call fight.

 

[1987olds442]

And really; have the Sentinel robots ever had any real success against the X-Men? (No, they havent).

You honestly can't be comparing the Transformers to the Sentinels... the Transformers are so past them in Technology and power it isn't even funny. Most people just seem to think that the Transformers are just robots they are not... The Transformers are living sentient beings not just robots.

Magneto or Polaris would crush any and all Transformers in a heartbeat.

Aren't those two powerless right now
Even in their prime I really doubt that they could really affect Unicron.

Also I would bet that the Transformers would have defenses against Magnetism.

And if it were the Decepticons they were fighting do thing they would fight fair? ... No ... They would just decimate the planet from orbit like they did in the G2 Comic with the Warworld ship Destroying entire cities in a single blast.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

First of all that army of Ultrons were drone units being controled by the main Ultron.If all the Ultrons were free minded like The Transformers the fight might not have gone the same way for the Avengers.
The same goes for the Sentinels.Their not lining robots.Being a living robots change's a few things IMO.
I think it comes down to one thing...and that would be the avengers line-up in this so-call fight.

So? They were programmed to kill, and they failed. Just like the Transformers would. Hell, Iron Man himself would probably override all the Transformers systems in 5 seconds and completely shut them down. Game over.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

You honestly can't be comparing the Transformers to the Sentinels... the Transformers are so past them in Technology and power it isn't even funny. Most people just seem to think that the Transformers are just robots they are not... The Transformers are living sentient beings not just robots.


Aren't those two powerless right now
Even in their prime I really doubt that they could really affect Unicron.

Also I would bet that the Transformers would have defenses against Magnetism.

And if it were the Decepticons they were fighting do thing they would fight fair? ... No ... They would just decimate the planet from orbit like they did in the G2 Comic with the Warworld ship Destroying entire cities in a single blast.

Yes because God KNOWS the Avengers and FF have NEVER succesfully defended Earth from threats from outer space.

And give me an example of the Transformers having a "defense" against Magnetism. They're metal. And thus Magneto or Polaris would own them in a nanosecond.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

So? They were programmed to kill, and they failed. Just like the Transformers would. Hell, Iron Man himself would probably override all the Transformers systems in 5 seconds and completely shut them down. Game over.

Even if what you say Ironman might do would work it would only work a few times.Transformer technology is 4 million years more advanced then Stark technologymuch like the Borg[Star Trek]The Transformers would adapet.The way I see it Iron man would not do all that much damage at all technology wise.I see him hurting Transformers more on a physical level.I think the Avengers only chance is to have their Big Guns in the fight.Maby even bring in some outside help as you said Magneto & Polaris should do.Then again we are talking about living metal who knows if Magneto or Polaris has any effect on their alien bodys.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Even if what you say Ironman might do would work it would only work a few times.Transformer technology is 4 million years more advanced then Stark technologymuch like the Borg[Star Trek]The Transformers would adapet.The way I see it Iron man would not do all that much damage at all technology wise.I see him hurting Transformers more on a physical level.I think the Avengers only chance is to have their Big Guns in the fight.Maby even bring in some outside help as you said Magneto & Polaris should do.Then again we are talking about living metal who knows if Magneto or Polaris has any effect on their alien bodys.

Iron Man has figured out Skrull and Kree technology that is also millions of years more advanced...Reed Richards has as well.

And if it has the tiniest hint of metal in it, Magneto can effect it. He can he effect the iron in a person's blood.

 

[1987olds442]

double post...

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Iron Man has figured out Skrull and Kree technology that is also millions of years more advanced...Reed Richards has as well.

And if it has the tiniest hint of metal in it, Magneto can effect it. He can he effect the iron in a person's blood.

I must confess that I didnt remember that Stark and Reed have worked with Skrull/Kree technology...but Transformer technology is a living technolog and I beliave that they would work out a defence for anything Iron man could throw at them.And Magneto could not effect a larg group of Transformers all at once.I think the Avengers might be able to win but it depends on witch members were on the team at the time and they would need outside help.

 

[1987olds442]

Yes because God KNOWS the Avengers and FF have NEVER succesfully defended Earth from threats from outer space.

You seem to have an extreme bias towards the Avengers and think they would easy win. If this was an all out battle both sides would have heavy casualties.

And give me an example of the Transformers having a "defense" against Magnetism. They're metal. And thus Magneto or Polaris would own them in a nanosecond.

Well the big Planet one I mentioned Unicron depending on which continuity is on the same level of power as Galactus so you can be pretty sure Magneto and Polaris are a joke to him.

Plus there a lot of regular transformers that powers as well. Heck Windcharger even has Magnetic powers and can generate his own Magnetic fields. Trailbreaker can generate nearly impenetrable invisible force-fields.

In the new IDW books cybertron is a waste land so they have to use internal damping fields to protect themselves against cosmic radiation and magnetic disruptions.

And you need to remember too not all metal is affected buy Magnetic forces. So are there non Magnetic metals on Cybertron?

 

[1987olds442]

I just saw this funny little comic over at www.tfw2005.com

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119227

It's part of a series called Lil Formers by member MattMoylan
http://www.lilformers.com/home.php

 

[Kenny Eugene McCall]

What if Megatron himself took control of the Sentinels and gave them Cybertronian Transformer abilities? The Autobots and some of the X-Men would be toast!