I honestly just don’t agree that Superman as a character alone is enough. I think he needs all the help he can possibly get. Again, I don’t think you can’t do it and I won’t be mind blown if it succeeds (because Gunn makes good movies and has a level of basic competence as a writer far exceeding the regular hacks who write CBMs) but I do think there’s a lot working against it and people are losing perspective in their hype.
I think it'd be interesting if they were both dead actually
Cohen is great, classic Batman material. He’s exactly the kind of actor I’m expecting except a bit younger and fits very cleanly with the type of casting Gunn is doing - he’d fit very well with Corenswet, it would feel of a piece with that casting even though Cohen as Batman would be way more interesting to me than David as Supes.
I think he'd feel very much dollar-store Pattinson acting wise and I don't really find his look or presence or voice to be intrinsically Bruce Wayne-y or Batman-y enough to compensate for that tbh. He'd be very boring for that reason and I can't really imagine him being able to make the character his own in any meaningful way. Whole time he'd just be reminding me of how much better Robert is in comparison.
Man, I disagree. Cohen's work with Flanagan all just screams Batman to me even though neither of the two very different characters he played in the Haunting series were Batman like at all. There's something in his screen presence and the way he conveys the pain his characters are feeling in such a genuine, real way. I think he's only of a "type" with Pattinson because they're both actors who are naturally suited to Batman.
That's the thing for me though. Cohen's main strength as an actor is vulnerability; and I do mean hyper vulnerability, it's something he talks about in pretty much all of his interviews, where he talks a lot about how despite his appearance he doesn't feel naturally suited in any way for the sort of action hero, "hyper masculine roles" (for the lack of a better term but that's basically how he's described it). Not to say that Batman shouldn't be vulnerable, I mean, all my favorite choices have in common they can express vulnerability, but they can also pair it up with that other stuff. Problem with Oliver is that he has no sense of gravitas whatsoever, there's nothing that feels particularly tough about him beyond just the fact that he's a 6'3 well built man, but his strength as an actor is that he can be charismatic and then can make you feel bad for him in the process.
Brother I made a whole list of over 150 names ranging 30-50 years old. I am considering everybody.
I'm expecting them to keep the exact same characterization of that type of Batman since that is pretty much the exact type of Batman one would want in an hyper fantastical DCU like the one they're doing.
Yeah; because I did consider him, I watched Invisible Man, both seasons of Invisible Man Flanagan's Haunting series, watched several interviews of the guy, read some articles about him, watched clips of his other work, etc. to make up my mind on whether I like him for the role or not. And I just came to the conclusion that while I think he's a good actor, I also don't like him for this Batman at all. I even went through the trouble of clipping out what I thought were his best scenes to rewatch them and still the idea doesn't sound appealing to me in the slightest. He's very talented but I could not buy him as the hyper over the top hyper confident Batman from the Morrison run and the dominating authority figure Batman of the JLI comics at all. And the type of Batman I think he'd be good at playing is one that, like I said before, it's already being done currently.
And the problem is I'm not interested in a single of the ones that OJC would nail. That's why I don't like him as a choice.
I wasn’t talking about Orange Juice Cohen, just Batman
