The camp has been erased for a reason.

[CaptainClown]

Again I will reiterate.

It is like we all like certain types of cheese and argue over which one is better but we all like cheese and can agree that one type of cheese isn't enough. Some of us want blue and some of us want American.

It gives me a comforting thought that fans aren't hopeless

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Batman sang in Justice League, "Am I Blue?"
episode with the little piggy

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

I am just so happy they are making a musical episode.. YES GODMAN A GODDAMN MUSIC EPISODE! The dark knight will sing and dance, sullying your vision of him making you no longer the cool guy at school.

I know! I am so FLIPPING happy that there will be a musical, not just because it will make Art Major and Philosiphist Matrix theory lovin' pretentious wannabe who-for-some-reason-then-says-Dark-is-the-end-all-of-good-storytelling Godman die from spontaneous disembowelment, but because it the combined awesomeness of Batman AND singing could well bring about world peace and blow our minds to the 4th dimension and back!

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Why can't we just accept that every interpretation of Batman has it's merits?

Why can't we just accept nothing like that is ever going to happen?

 

[webhead9707]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1bmM7Ihv0Y

yeah, batz isnt funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RmJMzqpJQo&feature=related

 

[Godman]

LOL...a musical...LOL

Well the first Casino Royale was a musical and it was meant to be stupid fun and poking fun at the series which is what this cartoon has done so I'm cool. I look at this show as nothing serious and will not be remembered by anyone in ten years so I'm good. LOL...Christian Bale is the Batman most of the world has obviously accepted now and Ledger's impression IS the Joker now. I'm glad and happy for that so nothing can taint a billion dollar franchise...NOTHING!!!!! WB wouldn't even be stupid enough to make thios show seem like it's meant to be serious. I know it's a joke. It's like the scary movies series meets DC comics and I'm cool with that.

It's all a big, huge, massive JOKE!!!! LOL

 

[Daredevil_2003]

Why can't we just accept nothing like that is ever going to happen?

.........touche, sir.

 

[Cain]

it was meant to be stupid fun and poking fun at the series which is what this cartoon has done so I'm cool.

:facepalm

James Tucker said that he felt he had already done what he could with the structural format of B:TAS, BB and The Batman having worked on all 3 shows and spearheaded the latter. He wanted something different and remembered the Brave & The Bold comics from his childhood. He decided to take that direction with the show cause it hadn't been done yet. He thought it was a perfect way to reintroduce a more light hearted adventurous Batman that has a role within the greater DCU and not just Gotham without having to sell out the character.

As I said before and others said after me (I'm looking at you truertothecore) the Batman from the early comics I'm talking Detective #27 - 37 here had a sense of humor and was like a swashbuckler. The only dramatic difference between him and the Batman on this show is that the TV Batman doesn't kill.

I've noticed reading through different eras within the past 20 years that Batman didn't start being obsessed with his parents death till about the 80's. At least the writers I should say weren't about that they didn't forget but they'd acknowledge it seldomly and that made it even more special. Batman's origin has been one of the most overstated indulgences for many writers especially since the 90's.

I mean if you read the 40's through 70's stuff you see a guy that's about dishing out justice not one who is consumed by his trauma. Someone who learned to overcome it but never forgets what he learned from it and lives to fight for his ideals day after day. Yeah his mission comes from not wanting what happened to him to happen to someone else but it has become far more than that by the time he is far into his career like he obviously is on this show.

The death of the wayne's in the comicsbefore my generation wasn't a deus ex machina. Writers wrote around that more often than not because there is more to a person than obsession it's only because the comics were like that for so long due to Burton movie influence I still say that people think that's what it's all about.

I look at this show as nothing serious and will not be remembered by anyone in ten years so I'm good.

Considering it averages 2 million viewers every week I think it will be remembered by those viewers ten years down the line.

LOL...Christian Bale is the Batman most of the world has obviously accepted now and Ledger's impression IS the Joker now.

Only in live action film which Brave & The Bold is not.

I'm glad and happy for that so nothing can taint a billion dollar franchise...NOTHING!!!!!

You're fooling yourself if you didn't think it's always been a billion dollar franchise before TDK. Just off comic books, licensing and merchandising alone Batman has raked in billions. That's without factoring TV series' and movies. Hell the Adam West show you show so much disdain towards has millions of people asking for the DVD's which is why Fox and WB still having legal problems to this day. They both want to cake off of that.

 

[Drz]

2 million viewers? Holy smokes! Lets remember 4chan's /co/ has a big cult for this Batman, especially for Aquaman. OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[Cain]

Well technically I should've added an almost in front of 2 Million. For example if you click the link below you see that it had 1.6 million viewers that week and since they show it on saturday morning as well 1.7 million for saturday.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/2...d-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610

Which is more or less the average ratings for the show but yeah I think it's exceeded expectations cause it surprised everybody. It's really a solid show I'd rate it as a whole so far a very strong 7.5/10 and that's just 13 episodes deep.

 

[Cain]

Ratings for the last 2 episodes

Deep Cover for Batman! - 2,183,000
Game Over for Owlman! - 2,073,000

Not bad for a show that is supposedly so awful and hated.

 

[Godman]

Ratings for the last 2 episodes

Deep Cover for Batman! - 2,183,000
Game Over for Owlman! - 2,073,000

Not bad for a show that is supposedly so awful and hated.

people do like a great laugh and as u said it's for kids and they watch anything you tell them too. I just can't stand camp with superheroes of any sort. u can be light hearted but not campy.

there is a crowd for everything so I'm not surprised. we'll see if it will be a classic in ten years cause batman and robin also made a lot of doe in the theater and dvds...look at it now. it is looked back on as a Joke and used as a blue print of what NOT to do with batman lol

 

[Drz]

Critics and audiance didnt like Batman and Robin tbh, but people love Brave and the Bold. Its not campy, but it is more light hearted, but hey this show actually showed why Bruce became Batman and showed him off as a little prick too. Don't think B:TAS ever did that.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's a little campy, but camp isn't something to be afraid of. It's fun.

 

[Godman]

:facepalm

James Tucker said that he felt he had already done what he could with the structural format of B:TAS, BB and The Batman having worked on all 3 shows and spearheaded the latter. He wanted something different and remembered the Brave & The Bold comics from his childhood. He decided to take that direction with the show cause it hadn't been done yet. He thought it was a perfect way to reintroduce a more light hearted adventurous Batman that has a role within the greater DCU and not just Gotham without having to sell out the character.

As I said before and others said after me (I'm looking at you truertothecore) the Batman from the early comics I'm talking Detective #27 - 37 here had a sense of humor and was like a swashbuckler. The only dramatic difference between him and the Batman on this show is that the TV Batman doesn't kill.

I've noticed reading through different eras within the past 20 years that Batman didn't start being obsessed with his parents death till about the 80's. At least the writers I should say weren't about that they didn't forget but they'd acknowledge it seldomly and that made it even more special. Batman's origin has been one of the most overstated indulgences for many writers especially since the 90's.

I mean if you read the 40's through 70's stuff you see a guy that's about dishing out justice not one who is consumed by his trauma. Someone who learned to overcome it but never forgets what he learned from it and lives to fight for his ideals day after day. Yeah his mission comes from not wanting what happened to him to happen to someone else but it has become far more than that by the time he is far into his career like he obviously is on this show.

The death of the wayne's in the comicsbefore my generation wasn't a deus ex machina. Writers wrote around that more often than not because there is more to a person than obsession it's only because the comics were like that for so long due to Burton movie influence I still say that people think that's what it's all about.



Considering it averages 2 million viewers every week I think it will be remembered by those viewers ten years down the line.



Only in live action film which Brave & The Bold is not.



You're fooling yourself if you didn't think it's always been a billion dollar franchise before TDK. Just off comic books, licensing and merchandising alone Batman has raked in billions. That's without factoring TV series' and movies. Hell the Adam West show you show so much disdain towards has millions of people asking for the DVD's which is why Fox and WB still having legal problems to this day. They both want to cake off of that.

What I was saying is that nothing in Batman history has ever made 1 billion within a year and they have had many attempts before. TDK is the peak performance of Batman EVER.

You're right that B&B will be remembered because so is Batman Forever and the other crap. Doesn't mean it will be remembered in good spirit. When it goes back to darkness people will look back and say...DAMN that was crap like they do with EVERY campy or lighthearted rendition before. Adam West nowadays is looked at as a JOKE and everything to do with the non DARK knight.

The reason why the obsession of his parents death has been the key element to telling this guy's story is because it's the only way to make sense of a man dressing in a Bat costume every night beating up people. It makes more sense to the psyche of an individual that he has to do that.

TDK tackled the idea since he has grown up mentally and is Batman because of more than his parents. BB showed this when the house got burned down that that chapter of his life is closed and he's not just obsessive about his parents but now about the HOPE and spirit of Gotham City being done with corruption period. He now where's the costume as a symbol of hope and by the end of Dark Knight Batman had to become the symbol of death and corruption so that the city could survive and strive bigger than him. He is not a HERO in many ways, he is only a symbol of hope and a protector who has to do whatever he has to do to keep that symbolism alive.

There is a reason why Nolan didn't make a Brave and Bold adaptation and went with everything practically after Miller's darker rendition. Because all that **** before didn't work for a psychologically effected hero. Miller found the right direction for Batman and Batman was finally grounded. The killing Joke found a home for Joker's character and Nolan finally got him cinematically correct. The 90s shows were very well recieved for a very long time cause they were using the Batman mythos of the 80s and up where as this show is going backwards on the things that were washed away with Bad taste.

For Gold to become the expensive artifact it is today it must go through a process that doesn't look pretty and isn't quite complete which is what the 40s to the 70s was for Batman. Once it came out of the fire Miller gave us GOLD along with many other profound artists and writers who went and molded the gold into pretty watches and necklaces.

U don't go back in time, just because the dirty rock was a part of the process to make beautiful gold and sell it as is. It must be refined before you give it to your wife. She will be happy with the un refined rock you give her but she will also think it's a joke until u go back and get the real thing for her. Only a stupid woman would look you dead in the eyes and say she loves the dirty rock and mean it. She knows the GOLD is coming.

B&B = unrefined mineral gold nugget rock

TDK and anything DARK knight related = refined Gold ready for a queen to wear

so B&B does have it's place in history...

 

[SuperFerret]

If there's one thing I'll never understand, it's how people can write up full pages of arguments that say absolutely nothing.

 

[Mister J]

I believe the cyclicality here has endured long enough.