Batman '89 The Danny Elfman Appreciation Thread

Matthew Margeson & Mike Higham Scoring Tim Burton’s ‘Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children’

Film Music Reporter said:
Matthew Margeson and Mike Higham are currently scoring the upcoming fantasy adventure Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children. The score will be recorded in London within the next few weeks. The movie stars Eva Green, Asa Butterfield, Ella Purnell, Allison Janney, Terence Stamp, Rupert Everett, Judi Dench and Samuel L. Jackson. The film is based on the Ransom Riggs novel and follows a teenager who finds himself transported to an island where he must help protect a group of orphans with special powers from creatures out to destroy them. Jane Goldman (X-Men: First Class, Kingsman: The Secret Service) has written the screenplay. Peter Chernin (Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Oblivion, The Heat) is producing the project with Jenno Topping (Spy, St. Vincent). Danny Elfman has previously scored all of Burton’s features except for the musical Sweeney Todd and 1995’s Ed Wood, which was scored by Howard Shore. Higham has previously composed additional music for Burton’s Sweeney Todd and Big Eyes and served as the music editor on several of the director’s films. Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children will be released on December 25, 2016 by 20th Century Fox. Visit the official movie website for updates.

Margeson whose previous scoring credits include Kingsman: The Secret Service and Kick-Ass 2 also has the sports drama Eddie the Eagle coming up. The film will be released on February 26 by 20th Century Fox.

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I got around to listening to “The End Of The Tour” soundtrack, which features most of Elfman’s minimal score and a couple of the songs used in the indie drama. I saw the movie some time between last November and December. I thought it was a very interesting and compelling road trip movie, which was based on the five-day interview on the late writer David Foster Wallace (Jason Segel) conducted by Rolling Stone reporter David Lipsky (Jesse Eisenberg). I thought both Segel and Eisenberg gave strong performances. I also believe both actors played great off one another and really carried the story.

Elfman’s score is very low key and subdued. And was used sparingly in the picture. It’s very much in the vein of his Van Sant scores, Silver Linings Playbook, etc. I read somewhere that he wrote 25 minutes of music, which he recorded in his personal studio with three instruments.

The score isn’t heavy on melodies. However, there is a recurring motif that he uses in in “Intro”, “Reprise”, “Going Sour”, “Walking The Dog”, “Invasion”, “The Shoe”, and “Reprise 2” which he plays on some sort of percussive instrument and sometimes on piano. I think it represents the growing relationship between the two characters. And how that trip impacted both characters lives.

There’s also a serene and uplifting piece that he uses twice (“Minneapolis” and “Mall Of America”). To me it defines the joy and excitement of two strangers taking on a promising and unpredictable journey somewhere. Both very pleasant (though short) cues.

The songs on the album reflect the movie’s tone. Brian Eno’s “The Big Ship” and Tindersticks’ “Here” felt very congruent with Elfman’s score. And didn’t take away from it, imo. Though some listeners might complain about the score and song tracks being intermingled (arranged in chronological film order, I believe) distracting and interrupting the flow of the score, instead of separating all the Elfman cues from the songs.

But overall the score is highly recommended to Elfman completists and fans of his more intimate, low key, experimental and subdued approach for these particular indie films.
 
Thought I'd share this video.
Oliver Harper's Top 10 Superhero Soundtracks
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No surprise that Elfman’s Batman made the top 2. I kind of predicted that that would be number 2. Can’t blame him b/c it is a benchmark score. However I don’t agree with Harper about Elfman’s Batman Returns .Both scores are neck and neck for me. Both have something the other score doesn’t, imo. And why Elfman was the only composer without any interview footage?
 
The 25 most underrated film scores of the 1980s


Den Of Geek said:
6. Midnight Run (Danny Elfman, 1988)
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Quite simply, this is the Robert De Niro film score with which to purge the horrifying memories of Dirty Grandpa. It’s also one of Danny Elfman’s most shamefully overlooked works, an atypical blend of soft rock and blues that’s an absolute blast to listen to, the perfect accompaniment to one of the best buddy comedies ever made. Catchy and melancholy by turns it’s also irresistibly good fun, a firm rejoinder to the accusation that all Elfman can compose are quirky fairy tales; have the accusers listen to this and they’ll soon change their minds.

A while back La La Land Records was talking about reissuing Elfman's "Midnight Run". I wonder what the hold up is?
 
Danny Elfman Listens To Rap?
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He also mentioned in a 2012 interview (by Jeff Bond) that he also listens to hip hop on his spare time.
 
2016 Oscars: First-Time Producers Reveal Secrets Behind the Show

ABC News said:
This year the show will open with an animated short set to a musical score created by famed composer Danny Elfman.

“It is kind of a fantasy factory of how Oscars are made,” Elfman said.

The article mentions the Oscars airing at 8:30 pm this Sunday. That's 30 minutes before the new episode of TWD airs on AMC. If the animated short opens the show I might be able to check out that segment. However if it airs during TWD I'll most likely miss it. And if I do hopefully somebody posts the whole animated short on youtube.
 
Danny Elfman Music To 2016 Oscars Opening
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So the academy basically hired Elfman to write a 40 second whimsical cue that's typical of his style. And the actual animated sequence consisted of a brief montage of Oscar statuettes with sparks swirling in the foreground and background. Wasn't anything special.

Aside from that opening I didn't bother with the rest of the ceremony, but apparently Elfman attended.

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I believe that's his reaction to Ennio Morricone (The Hateful 8) winning his first Oscar for best original score. I share Elfman's sentiments it was long overdue for the legendary composer.
 
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A couple of weeks ago I saw Fifty Shades Of Grey, which explores the relationship between a college student and a wealthy man, who’s secretly into sadomasochism. I didn’t think it was either a good or terrible movie, but I wasn’t too invested in the shallow story or the relationship between both characters. I didn’t get much out of the movie. Both of the leads (though neither performances weren’t anything to brag about) did their best with little the script had to offer. Some of the dialogue/lines were ridiculous and unintentionally funny. Kudos to them for being able to deliver ‘em with a straight face. The love scenes were tame for the film’s risqué subject manner. Even though I haven’t read the book (and don’t plan to either) I found the film failed to improve upon it or tell a more compelling story, which was probably a difficult task in itself. A more experienced director (e.g. David Fincher or Paul Verhoeven) could’ve pulled it off, imo.

Elfman’s subdued score mostly underscores the movie. While the songs are put to the forefront and pretty much overshadows Elfman’s music. So the score doesn’t really leave a strong impression in the movie. It’s a very low key and rhythmic score, which is more contemporary compared to Elfman’s usual output. The score consists of strings, guitars, piano, and synthesizers, which reminded me of Elfman’s The Next Three Days.

The main theme/motif characterizes the sophisticated relationship between Ana and Christian. It’s mostly played on piano. It’s a very simple motif that Elfman’s able to interweave into nearly every track. There’s also a second theme/motif that represents Ana’s innocence, which can be heard in the track “Ana’s theme”. It’s a very dense motif that I feel (unless I missed something) is underused on the album. Maybe with repeated listens it’ll resonate more in other cues for me, but it didn’t have the same impact as the main theme/motif, imo. Elfman also briefly introduces a third more grim/bleak motif (in “Did That Hurt” and “Show Me“) that represents the lovers inner turmoil of their relationship. It somewhat reminded me of a theme/motif from Dario Marianelli’s underrated “V For Vendetta” score titled “Evey’s Reborn”.

It’s a well paced album which is barely over 46 minutes long. The cues that stood out of for me were “Shades of Grey”, “The Red Room”, “Ana And Christian”, “Clean You Up”, “The Contract”, “The Art Of War”, “Did That Hurt?”, “Bliss”, “Show Me”, “Counting To Six”, “Variations On A Shade”. I believe some cues were unused and replaced by songs in the film. “Shades Of Grey” was probably meant for the main titles and “Variation On A Shade”, which has a very contemporary remix approach with the use of synthesizers utilizing and deconstructing the main theme/motif, for the end credits. “Bliss”, which is a very choral and ethereal cue, isn’t congruent with the tone of the rest of the score, which is mostly ambient and textural.

I enjoyed this score. I think it does an admirable job guiding the listener musically with Ana’s journey into Christian’s dark sexual world. Since in the film this is Ana’s first real relationship with another man in certain cues it plays up the awkwardness of it. However, it never glamorizes or play up the love scenes. I also believe the score on album makes up for whatever’s lacking in the performances, script, and direction. I also believe that this is one of those scores that’ll have stronger repeatability, where you’ll notice things that you didn’t from the previous listen. Highly recommended to fans of Elfman’s more subdued and textural scores, such as “The Next Three Days”.
 
Den Of Geek said:
8. Standard Operating Procedure (Danny Elfman, 2008)
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Danny Elfman is so much more than the go-to-guy for Tim Burton oddities and superhero epics. And his atypically minimalist score for this acclaimed Errol Morris Abu Ghraib documentary is one of his finest overlooked scores, a triumph of dramatic maturity that utilises rhythmic cells in the manner of Philip Glass in order to present a chilly yet engrossing atmosphere. In that sense the score is perfectly attuned to the movie’s shocking subject matter, accentuating its horrifying revelations whilst being reserved enough to allow breathing room for the viewing audience.

The 25 most underrated film scores of the 2000s
 
Soundtrack Saturday: Iconic Batman Themes from Danny Elfman to Hans Zimmer

Collider said:
‘Batman’ and ‘Batman Returns’ – Danny Elfman
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Oingo Boingo artist Danny Elfman was still new to the world of film composition when Tim Burton enlisted him for his feature debut Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure, and when Burton was tasked with bringing Batman to the big screen for the first time since the 1966 film, he brought Elfman along with him. Elfman’s theme for 1989’s Batman is at once heroic, dark, and theatrical, which is right in line with Burton’s approach to the character. While Elfman’s score for Batman gets a bit muddled with the inclusion of original songs from Prince, his work really shines in the superior sequel Batman Returns. Carnival-inspired sounds imbue Elfman’s work on the Penguin sequences, while his theme for Catwoman is downright terrifying and tragic. The score for Batman Returns is dynamic, fun, creepy, and wild, and it has solidified its place in history as one of the all-time great superhero movie soundtracks.

They didn't even acknowledge Walker's B:MOTP. :angry:
 
The 25 most underrated scores of the decade so far

Den Of Geek said:
21) The Wolfman (Danny Elfman, 2010)
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The travails behind the making of this flawed Gothic horror tend to overshadow its impressively grandiose qualities, not least of which is the score by genre veteran Elfman. Itself a victim of brutal post-production edits, the score as heard in the film is a patchwork of Elfman’s own ideas and tracks embellished by other composers; a standalone listen reveals it to be a richly atmospheric score that leans heavily on Wojciech Kilar’s 1992 masterwork Dracula, but in Elfman’s own distinct style. The very definition of a score that deserves another chance.
I would swap Elfman's Wolfman with either of his The Next Three Days or Real Steel score, which I believe are underrated both as films and scores.

Daft Punk's Tron Legacy is far from underrated let alone the most underrated score of this decade so far. I also would've swapped Tyler's T:TDW with either Horner's TAS-M or Zimmer's TAS-M2 score b/c both scores are severely underappreciated more so than T:TDW, imo.
 
Danny is scoring James Ponsoldt's The Circle. :)

Sci-Fi thriller, new territory for Danny.
 
Some more info on 'The Circle'.

Film Music Reporter said:
Danny Elfman has recently composed the music for the upcoming thriller The Circle. The film is directed by James Ponsoldt (The Spectacular Now, Smashed) and stars Emma Watson, Tom Hanks, John Boyega, Patton Oswalt, Karen Gillian, Bill Paxton and Ellar Coltrane. The movie is based on the novel of the same title by Dave Eggers (Where the Wild Things Are, Away We Go) and follows a young woman who joins a social-media company, where she steps in front of the camera and finds her identity threatened by her brush with the spotlight. Ponsoldt has also written the screenplay and is also producing the project with Hanks & Gary Goetzman (Charlie Wilson’s War, The Polar Express) and Anthony Bregman (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Foxcatcher). Elfman and the director have previously collaborated on last year’s The End of the Tour. The Circle will be distributed in the U.S. by EuropaCorp. No release date has been announced yet.
 
The track list and samples of the score aren't available yet, but the album cover for "Alice Through The Looking Glass" has been revealed on amazon. WoW! The overcrowding of characters on the album cover rivals that of the A:AOU cover art. Based off that album cover alone this movie is overstuffed with characters just as A:AOU was, imo.

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Alice Through The Looking Glass Soundtrack Details.
 
More Elfman news...

Danny Elfman to Return for ‘Fifty Shades Darker’

Film Music Reporter said:
Danny Elfman has signed on to compose the music for the upcoming sequel Fifty Shades Darker. The film is directed by James Foley (Glengarry Glenn Ross, Confidence, Perfect Strangers) and stars Dakota Johnson, Jamie Dornan, Eric Johnson, Bella Heathcote, Arielle Kebbel and Kim Basinger. The movie continues the story from last year’s Fifty Shades of Grey, which Elfman also scored, and follows Christian as he wrestles with his inner demons, and Anastasia who must confront the anger and envy of the women who came before her. Niall Leonard has written the screenplay based on E.L. James’ bestselling novel. Michael De Luca & Dana Brunetti (The Social Network, Captain Phillips, 21) are also producing the project with James. Fifty Shades Darker is set to be released on February 10, 2017 by Universal Pictures.

I liked his score to the previous film and am interested on how he'll expand and improve upon on his themes/motifs. It's also good they're keeping continuity in the music, but unfortunately I'll have to sit through another movie for the context of how the score fits and enhances it.
 
The 25 greatest superhero scores of all time


Den Of Geek said:
20. Hellboy II: The Golden Army (Danny Elfman, 2008)
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Replacing Marco Beltrami (more on whom, later) for Guillermo del Toro’s fantastical sequel, genre veteran Elfman returns to the multi-faceted whimsy and wonder of much of the early portion of his career. However at the same time the complexity of the orchestrations is very much reminiscent of his late period work, often emphasising subtle motifs over clearly identifiable ideas. Nevertheless, there’s little denying that Elfman brilliantly captures the quirky, no-nonsense personality of Ron Perlman’s horned hero.

Den Of Geek said:
14. Spider-Man (Danny Elfman, 2002)
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Sam Raimi’s web slinging wonder was, along with X-Men, responsible for spearheading the current superhero movie boom. And key to the first Spider-Man’s success was the soaring score by Elfman, a potent mixture of his grandiose Batman overtones with the more contemporary, modernistic textures of his late 1990s work. The central theme for our hero Peter Parker remains one of Elfman’s most rousing but tensions between him and Raimi on Spider-Man 2 meant the third score was completed by Christopher Young.

Den Of Geek said:
11. Batman Returns (Danny Elfman, 1992)
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Tim Burton’s Batman sequel saw him, in the wake of the success of Edward Scissorhands, liberated from studio interference and able to conjure a far more personally twisted world on-screen. The wintry, fairy-tale nature of Batman Returns informs the somewhat different approach Danny Elfman took with his score, one possessed of a more whimsically offbeat nature than its muscular predecessor. With themes for Batman, Catwoman and The Penguin all in play, it’s perhaps more a more ambitious work even though the chilly tonality of the various ideas does occasionally make it more repetitive.

Den Of Geek said:
1. Batman (Danny Elfman, 1989)
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Looking back on it now, the appointment of Danny Elfman as the keeper of the Batman flame was an incredible risk, a plum assignment for a relatively green composer fresh from a rock and roll background with relatively few score credits to his name. That only serves to make Elfman’s engrossing achievement all the more incredible, the composer (working around songs from the late, lamented Prince) throwing caution to the wind and fashioning an indelible central theme that brilliantly captures the tortured complexities of the Caped Crusader. The tone of Elfman’s first Batman score - brooding yet keenly aware of its pulpy comic book origins, robustly exciting yet suitably tongue in cheek - was to prove enormously influential on virtually all superhero scores in the subsequent decades, as well as Elfman’s ensuing work with director Tim Burton. Even today, the score resonates with the same sense of freshness and excitement as when it was first released.

Den Of Geek said:
Den Of Geek's Top 25 greatest superhero scores of all time

1. Batman (Danny Elfman, 1989)
2. Superman (John Williams, 1978)
3. The Shadow (Jerry Goldsmith, 1994)
4. The Rocketeer (James Horner, 1991)
5. Hellboy (Marco Beltrami, 2004)
6. Unbreakable (James Newton Howard, 2000)
7. The Amazing Spider-Man (James Horner, 2012)
8. The Incredibles (Michael Giacchino, 2004)
9. Ant-Man (Christoph Beck, 2015)
10. Captain America: The First Avenger (Alan Silvestri, 2011)
11. Batman Returns (Danny Elfman, 1992)
12. Iron Man 3 (Brian Tyler, 2013)
13. Supergirl (Jerry Goldsmith, 1984)
14. Spider-Man (Danny Elfman, 2002)
15. X-Men: The Last Stand (John Powell, 2006)
16. Thor (Patrick Doyle, 2011)
17. The Crow (Graeme Revell, 1994)
18. X-Men (Michael Kamen, 2000)
19. Judge Dredd (Alan Silvestri, 1995)
20. Hellboy II: The Golden Army (Danny Elfman, 2008)
21. The Incredible Hulk (Craig Armstrong, 2008)
22. The Dark Knight (Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard, 2008)
23. The Phantom (David Newman, 1996)
24. Ghost Rider (Christopher Young, 2007)
25. Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm (Shirley Walker, 1993)
 
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More Elfman news...

Danny Elfman to Return for ‘Fifty Shades Darker’



I liked his score to the previous film and am interested on how he'll expand and improve upon on his themes/motifs. It's also good they're keeping continuity in the music, but unfortunately I'll have to sit through another movie for the context of how the score fits and enhances it.

I'm very excited. I love his score for the first movie and Elfman really hasn't done that many sequels when you consider how prolific he is. The director is also directing the third movie (they are being shot back-to-back) so this is likely to be Elfman's second trilogy.

Also, a Goosebumps sequel is in the works and the director is returning. Could be another franchise for Elfman.
 
Amazon posted the tracklist for "Alice Through The Looking Glass".

Amazon said:
1. Alice (Danny Elfman)
2. Saving the Ship (Danny Elfman)
3. Watching Time (Danny Elfman)
4. Looking Glass (Danny Elfman)
5. To the Rescue (Danny Elfman)
6. Hatter House (Danny Elfman)
7. The Red Queen (Danny Elfman)
8. The Chronosphere (Danny Elfman)
9. Warning Hightopps (Danny Elfman)
10. Tea Time Forever (Danny Elfman)
11. Oceans of Time (Danny Elfman)
12. Hat Heartbreak (Danny Elfman)
13. Asylum Escape (Danny Elfman)
14. Hatter's Deathbed (Danny Elfman)
15. Finding the Family (Danny Elfman)
16. Time Is Up (Danny Elfman)
17. World's End (Danny Elfman)
18. Truth (Danny Elfman)
19. Goodbye Alice (Danny Elfman)
20. Kingsleigh & Kingsleigh (Danny Elfman)
21. Seconds Song (Danny Elfman)
22. Friends United (Danny Elfman)
23. Time's Castle (Danny Elfman)
24. The Seconds (Danny Elfman)
25. Clock Shop (Danny Elfman)
26. They're Alive (Danny Elfman)
27. Story of Time (Danny Elfman)
28. Just Like Fire (Pink)

"Alice Through The Looking Glass" Tracklist
 
Alice Through The Looking Glass Composer Behind-The-Scenes Interview - Danny Elfman

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This weekend I listened to Elfman's Mission Impossible, which was released 20 years ago today. It is still as riveting as it was then.

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Mole Hunt
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The Heist
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Betrayal
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Sony Classical to Release Danny Elfman’s ‘Rabbit & Rogue’ Ballet Score

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Film Music Reporter said:
Sony Classical will release Danny Elfman‘s music for the ballet Rabbit & Rogue. The composer of such films as Spider-Man, Batman, Alice in Wonderland, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Avengers: Age of Ultron and Men in Black composed the score for the American Ballet Theatre. The ballet premiered in June 2008 at the Metropolitan Opera House in New York and was recorded for a CD release in 2014. The album will be released on June 7, 2016. Check out a video featurette about the composer’s work on the project from a couple years ago after the jump.

Here’s the album track list:

1. Intro
2. Frolic
3. Gamelan
4. Rag
5. Lyric
6. Final


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Lovely news! I've been waiting to hear this score for 8 years now.
 
The Flash (1990) tv series "Pilot" premiered on CBS 25 years ago today and so I decided to listen to the LLLR 2-CD original television soundtrack composed by the late Shirley Walker. Since Elfman wrote the main theme as well as the pilot’s score (though written by Walker) being very Elfman-esque. I thought I talk about the soundtrack on this thread anyway.

I was always impressed by the scores to the Flash TV series even as a little kid. Walker was able to distinguish and bring something fresh to the table each adventure/episode with her dynamic music. The scores never became trite or a retread from previous episodes, imo. It enhanced the episodes by making ‘em even more cinematic. Just as she and her team did for B:TAS Walker’s scores for “The Flash” seem like it was written for 60 minute movies rather than episodes.

I even believe the score for the pilot is up there with some of the best superhero/comic book movie scores e.g. Williams’ Superman '78, Goldsmith’s Supergirl, Elfman’s B89 and BR, Walker’s B:MOTP to name a few. The scores to the episodes itself rivals her B:TAS work. Even putting most of the current superhero movie/tv scores to shame, imo.

Elfman’s Flash theme is still the melody I associate most with the scarlet speedster. Yes it shares similarities with his Dick Tracy theme, but I still think it’s phenomenal. And Walker easily made the main theme her own on the show. She even came up with a compelling secondary theme for the Flash as well, which made a brief appearance during The Flash’s guest spot on S:TAS (which Walker of course wrote themes and some scores for as well) episode titled “Speed Demons”.

Blake Neely’s score for the CW tv series is decent but isn’t a patch on Walker’s, imo. I was so delighted when LLLR released some music from the 90s TV series five in a half years ago. Which happens to still be available on LLLR site for $15.98 as of the date of this post.
THE FLASH: LIMITED EDITION (2CD-SET) Hopefully they’ll release more music in the near future.

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The Flash ‘90' going out of print on 6/30 (or while supplies last) less than 200 remain – on sale for $10 each!!!

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GOING OUT OF PRINT ALERT! The following titles are going out of print on 6/30 (or while supplies last): CLUE (less than 300 remain – on sale for $10 each), THE FLASH ‘90 (less than 200 remain – on sale for $10 each), IT’S A MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD (less than 150 remain - $15.98 each), THE GOLDEN CHILD and DAYS OF THUNDER (less than 100 remain - $19.98 each), BATMAN FOREVER (less than 90 remain - $29.98 each) and YESTERDAY WAS A LIE (on sale for $3 each).
 
Rabbit And Rogue came out today. I didn't see any listings for a CD from amazon or any other soundtrack selling site. All amazon has is the mp3 version. I was really looking forward to listening to this score and owning a pressed CD copy of it. Hopefully a pressed CD copy is still in the works, b/c the FMR article above even stated that Elfman recorded it two years ago for a CD release.
 

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