The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[M.O.Steel]

I know, and that why I critic the CGI of this nnew HULK

oh nevermind. i wasn't sure which side you were on. my bad.

 

[Comicfan]

oh nevermind. i wasn't sure which side you were on. my bad.

Well I don´t think I´m on any side...

I think CGI is a great tool and has brought great improvement to the cinematic industry

I loved Ang Lee HULK, one of the best photo real CGI creatures to date

I think that, while the render of the new hulk has lots of details... the model itself has lots of flaws, that make him look more like a sculped "thing" that a living creature

 

[Galactus_357]

I really like the CGI of this movie but it's not quite on the level of the 2003 Hulk's. Still, the design is better and the Hulk looks more vicious so I'm happy.

 

[Godman]

I know, and that why I critic the CGI of this nnew HULK

me too

 

[Godman]

It's been awhile since I've seen LOTR, I agree with Harry Potter, but Spider-Man? Shut up. There might be a meh shot or two but for the most part that CGI is pretty damn good.

Spidey CG is very laughable cause he has cartoon movements. We actually do have flexible martial artists and free runners in the world so that could have been avoided. I wanted to feel the idea of a MAN being able to flip and do most all those stunts and is why the Bond Chase scene in Royale tops ALL the CG scenes in ALL the spider man movies cause they actually got REAL people to do those feets. That's why Bond movies are so well recieved.

 

[Godman]

Well, this thread is breaking down at lightspeed.

I agree, but it's fun to debate ideas

 

[FrostBite]

That's why Bond movies are so well recieved.

Yep, we all know how horribly Spider-man and Spider-man 2 were received.

 

[Godman]

Yep, we all know how horribly Spider-man and Spider-man 2 were received.

i'm just saying that there is NO argument with Casino Royale compared to the logic any smart person can put against Spider-man. The level of plot holes are unbelievably terrible. If you really watch Spider-man as an intelligent person you will truly see how flawed it is.

I enjoyed Spider-man, but it was highly over hyped.

How a kid like that can make a costume so detailed in tailoring is beyond me

How No one from his school remembers him walking out the cafeteria with webs pulling a tray followed by a fight of AMAZING feats that no human can perform. No one can flip and land the way he did.

How he fought in the wrestling ring and STUCK on the cage without anyone seeing him??? Didn't they all see him in the locker room and also when he went to get money from the fight??? People saw "The Human Spider/Spider-man"

Wouldn't one punch from Spider-man KILL or at least fracture the face of Doctor Octopus since he was HUMAN?

AND the list goes on... I can do the same for Batman Begins, but not to the level of Spider-man.

People in Batman's world aren't that stupid where as in New York SPIDER-MAN, they are too dumb. Same goes for metropolis. Idiots!!!!

 

[Figs]

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In regards to the Spider-Man punching Dr. Octopus...it's always been known in the comics that he pulls his punches if he's not fighting someone with superstrength.

They may not have mentioned it in the movie but it's a fricken Spider-Man movie. Most people don't care...because their watching a comic film.

Seriously, that goes above and beyond nit picking. A few of your points I agree with even though they didn't bother me while watching the film but some of the other things you're picking at are just godawful.

 

[solidsnake86]

I was watching tv yesterday when I saw a tv spot and I was really impressed with how good it looked. I think there is a big difference when you watch it on tv as opposed to a computer screen where you pause and dissect each clip frame by frame. The colour they used on the hulk this time around looks far better than 03 and I think it is a bit silly to think the 03 version looked better when you're comparing an unfinished version to pictures from the dvd. Given the amount of time between the start of filming to the opening everything looks great so far and I'm actually excitied to see this film.

 

[Galactus_357]

Yep, we all know how horribly Spider-man and Spider-man 2 were received.

I just pray to God right now that you're being sarcastic.

 

[Nivek]

He is, obviously. Especially considering who he is mocking.

 

[Galactus_357]

Oh, I see now....Godman...ugh....

 

[Godman]

^
In regards to the Spider-Man punching Dr. Octopus...it's always been known in the comics that he pulls his punches if he's not fighting someone with superstrength.

They may not have mentioned it in the movie but it's a fricken Spider-Man movie. Most people don't care...because their watching a comic film.

Seriously, that goes above and beyond nit picking. A few of your points I agree with even though they didn't bother me while watching the film but some of the other things you're picking at are just godawful.

I like Mcfarlane Spiderverse and not Stan lee's. I got past that when I was like 14. I like the edgier Spiderman which the movie had TOO much suspended belief even according to science. So he put the whole city, MJ, Aunt May, Himself, and practically everyone in danger because he was pulling punches? he could have punched Ock once on the train and eliminated him from further distruction. How about when he threw the gargoyle or whatever from the buliding and knocked Ock with it??? DFin't do much to him...He's HUMAN. There was a lot of plot flaws of this capacity. I tried to suspedn belief but it's these things that make comic book films remain as COMIC BOOK films and not just good films. have to add the word comic, or it's a horrible movie. That is what I hope to change in hollywood. I want to make movie adaptations to where the only excuse for loop holes will be because my story could have had certain elements turn out better rather than "well it is a comic book movie". Thank God Nolan passed that mark. The Crow translated VERY well and so did Ang's Hulk until the final battle which took it right back to "comic book movie" status.

That's why it seems like I troll, but I have a problem with adaptations being treated with "oh we can do that cause it's ONLY a comic book movie". They are fun but I want them to take them mediums as seriously as LOTR took it's adaptations and one academy awards for it.

Will we ever have that happen? I don't know.

 

[Godman]

Oh, I see now....Godman...ugh....

LOL, thanks guys, for the hate...you guys are cool, I'd love to actually watch a movie with one of you and really see how you react to the goods and bads and really understand some minds.

 

[Galactus_357]

If these people do hate you, they have good reason to, you purposely troll these forums.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Half the time I don't even bother reading posts, I just look for pics. If I see someone complaining or arguing at the top of the page, I'll just skip to the bottom.

 

[joefixit2]

I like Mcfarlane Spiderverse and not Stan lee's. I got past that when I was like 14. I like the edgier Spiderman which the movie had TOO much suspended belief even according to science. So he put the whole city, MJ, Aunt May, Himself, and practically everyone in danger because he was pulling punches? he could have punched Ock once on the train and eliminated him from further distruction. How about when he threw the gargoyle or whatever from the buliding and knocked Ock with it??? DFin't do much to him...He's HUMAN. There was a lot of plot flaws of this capacity. I tried to suspedn belief but it's these things that make comic book films remain as COMIC BOOK films and not just good films. have to add the word comic, or it's a horrible movie. That is what I hope to change in hollywood. I want to make movie adaptations to where the only excuse for loop holes will be because my story could have had certain elements turn out better rather than "well it is a comic book movie". Thank God Nolan passed that mark. The Crow translated VERY well and so did Ang's Hulk until the final battle which took it right back to "comic book movie" status.

That's why it seems like I troll, but I have a problem with adaptations being treated with "oh we can do that cause it's ONLY a comic book movie". They are fun but I want them to take them mediums as seriously as LOTR took it's adaptations and one academy awards for it.

Will we ever have that happen? I don't know.

Um....if the character is based on a comic book character, it should stay true to that comic book character. Why else are a good number of people going to see it? And too much suspended belief in Spider-Man. Just a question, but how many people in just capes do you see floating around Gothan City? yeah, real believable there.

 

[Godman]

If these people do hate you, they have good reason to, you purposely troll these forums.

Trolling is just flat out bashing and hating on something to piss people off, but if you guys READ I actually make very relevant points that can improve what we get as adaptations. You may agree or disagree but let the future tell when I graduate from film school and fix the problem many of these movies have that keeps them stuck in that "comic book" movie world.

 

[Godman]

Um....if the character is based on a comic book character, it should stay true to that comic book character. Why else are a good number of people going to see it? And too much suspended belief in Spider-Man. Just a question, but how many people in just capes do you see floating around Gothan City? yeah, real believable there.

Many went to watch spider man cause of the cartoons and the fact that it had never been in the movie world before. It was new and had been around as long as my mom. Most 80% of the people who went never even gave a **** about the comics and maybe never even picked one up, but just wanted to see SPIDER-MAN in this new age of digital filming.

many disn't even know of gwen stacey till SM3.

your last argument isn't even on a level for me to even relay my message on cause you may not think on that plain to understand what I was relaying.

 

[Nivek]

Dont bother making any point with him Joefixit2, he's getting popular on peoples ignore lists...

 

[storyteller]

Spidey CG is very laughable cause he has cartoon movements. We actually do have flexible martial artists and free runners in the world so that could have been avoided. I wanted to feel the idea of a MAN being able to flip and do most all those stunts and is why the Bond Chase scene in Royale tops ALL the CG scenes in ALL the spider man movies cause they actually got REAL people to do those feets. That's why Bond movies are so well recieved.

Spiderman wasnt just jumping 10 feet to the next building from a roof. The cgi movements were used in situations where no human could possibly perform. I have seen free runners, Yeah there good but not that good. The bond chase scene was also good but it didnt exactly put spiderman to shame since the acrobatics dont match with the cgi scenes in spiderman. Its why we need cgi to portray superman flying at 90mph as opposed to the environment moving around him. Same spiderman needs cgi when hes swinging on webs or facing off against mechanical tentacles while sticking to the side of a building.

Casino royale was well recieved because it took out those needless gadgets and brought Bond back to a believable realm. Spiderman and other comic book heroes like him are not in that realm.

Someone like Daredevil would do good with them filming a free runner but Spiderman is would not.

 

[Galactus_357]

Dont bother making any point with him Joefixit2, he's getting popular on peoples ignore lists...

So, Nivek, what do you think of the CGI for this movie?

 

[Godman]

The All Time Favorites
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Sci Fi - The Matrix/Star Wars
Fantasy - Lord Of The Rings/Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Comic Book - Batman Begins
Comedy - Dumb and Dumber
Horror - The Exorcist
Suspense/thriller - Seven
Action - John Woo's The Killer
Drama - Scarface
Sports - Rocky
Martial Arts - Enter The Dragon
Animated - Spirited Away

Directors

John Woo (up until Face Off)
Tim Burton
Steven Spielberg
David Fincher
Quentin Tarantino
James Cameron
Coen Brothers
Hayao Miyazaki

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I'm no troll...I actually know what I'm talking about

 

[Godman]

Spiderman wasnt just jumping 10 feet to the next building from a roof. The cgi movements were used in situations where no human could possibly perform. I have seen free runners, Yeah there good but not that good. The bond chase scene was also good but it didnt exactly put spiderman to shame since the acrobatics dont match with the cgi scenes in spiderman. Its why we need cgi to portray superman flying at 90mph as opposed to the environment moving around him. Same spiderman needs cgi when hes swinging on webs or facing off against mechanical tentacles while sticking to the side of a building.

Casino royale was well recieved because it took out those needless gadgets and brought Bond back to a believable realm. Spiderman and other comic book heroes like him are not in that realm.

Someone like Daredevil would do good with them filming a free runner but Spiderman is would not.

Valid argument but the CG was too excessive and you can make it work without just to make it look BETTER. CG takes alot away from the FUN I personally could have had with Spider-man. He looked like Gumby Every CG scene.