The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[Advanced Dark]

My only rant would be the lack of green.

Lack of? The Hulk is green and Abom is Opaque Green. It's more of a muted green which shows better IMO. If it's too bright we'll get Shrek or Kermit comparisons again.

 

[Kirmit]

Lack of? The Hulk is green and Abom is Opaque Green. It's more of a muted green which shows better IMO. If it's too bright we'll get Shrek or Kermit comparisons again.

Hey, no need to bring me into this lol.

 

[Scooter]

The more I look at that Myspace gif of this new Hulk roaring, the less polished the effects look. I should probably stop looking at it.

 

[Movies205]

Well no it doesn't look anything like a cartoon, sorry but that's just a silly comment. This film isn't just cgi, they're using props and animatronics aswell, the hand breaking out of the ground in the trailer was animatronic. If you (not you personally) can't go in there with a clear head, not constantly thinking 'theyre cgi, theyre cgi' that's your problem, not the cgi team, not the director. It'll get to the point you'll be saying 'Thats such fake cgi' at points that likely won't even be cgi because you're actively looking for it.

Um excuse me I said the trailer which consists of one animatronic and a completely CGI shot of two CGI models running at each other, yes it's a cartoon. The very concept is the same as who framed roger rabbit except with realistic looking cartoons. Now I'm going by the bloody trailer and that's what I got from it was that it's going to be a very cartoony movie. Yes that's my problem but then again I thought this was a board for discussion not a bunch of mindless drones saying "YES I LOVE IT, ZOMG!".

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Um excuse me I said the trailer which consists of one animatronic and a completely CGI shot of two CGI models running at each other, yes it's a cartoon. The very concept is the same as who framed roger rabbit except with realistic looking cartoons. Now I'm going by the bloody trailer and that's what I got from it was that it's going to be a very cartoony movie. Yes that's my problem but then again I thought this was a board for discussion not a bunch of mindless drones saying "YES I LOVE IT, ZOMG!".

Hmm, I beg to differ on the cartoon comment. Let me say you are entitled to your opinion, but lets define cartoon:

car·toon (kär-tōōn')
A drawing depicting a humorous situation, often accompanied by a caption.
[*]A drawing representing current public figures or issues symbolically and often satirically: a political cartoon. A preliminary sketch similar in size to the work, such as a fresco, that is to be copied from it. An animated cartoon.
A comic strip. None seem relate to your post. Roger Rabbit was animation, but not cgi. Finally, its not a "bloody" trailer. You should not be able to use that phrase in here just like we can't cuss here. I have friends in the UK and thats like us using the "F" word. We're not kids but lets be cordial towards one another. Cheers!

 

[Movies205]

Hmm, I beg to differ on the cartoon comment. Let me say you are entitled to your opinion, but lets define cartoon:

car·toon (kär-tōōn')

1. <LI minmax_bound="true">
   1. <LI minmax_bound="true">A drawing depicting a humorous situation, often accompanied by a caption.
   2. A drawing representing current public figures or issues symbolically and often satirically: a political cartoon.
   <LI minmax_bound="true">A preliminary sketch similar in size to the work, such as a fresco, that is to be copied from it. <LI minmax_bound="true">An animated cartoon.
2. A comic strip.

None seem relate to your post. Roger Rabbit was animation, but not cgi. Finally, its not a "bloody" trailer. You should not be able to use that phrase in here just like we can't cuss here. I have friends in the UK and thats like us using the "F" word. We're not kids but lets be cordial towards one another. Cheers!

I spent 3 months in the UK and use the word bloody all the time As for cartoon, ANIMATION, big whoop, it the same damn thing that I'm talking about. Now if you can buy the animation then so be it, again I'm basing this off the preview however all I saw were two animated characters running at each other and it didn't instill much hope. Don't get me wrong I like the designs but I need something more.

 

[Kirmit]

EB just said exactly what I was going to say.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

EB just said exactly what I was going to say.

You should still post what you were going to say. Great minds think alike. t:
Yeah, whats funny is that it was explained that the cgi wasnt polished and even that did not suffice the crowd. It is what it is. I'll just wait till they finish. I have had my fill. Good night to all.

 

[Webhead38]

I thought the CG was pretty good, but there was still a quality to it that just bothered me and I couldn't put my finger on what that was until I saw the trailer loop by Antoine X. What is missing is the Hulk still has no personality traits to him. What we see is pretty much what we got in the last film except this one is cloaked in shadow. He's plenty fine for me as far as appearance goes but he doesn't register an identity, hence the game like comparisons mentioned within this thread. Now no game can make the Hulk look this good, but any game can reproduce the quality to his personality because there isn't much there. He still doesn't register a soul.

A good example might come from LOTR. The Golem was interesting in Lord of the Rings because he was full of personality and charm, which allowed you to suspend your disbelief that he was only a CGI character. If you turn the sound down on your TV when you watch it, there's no great effort to see that he's digitally created, but add the personality to him and he breaths life. Without that, he would read no better than the Hulk from the first film. I'm hoping for that in this Hulk.

Now, of course, this is a teaser so I can't make a judgement call on the film as a whole because a teaser simply delivers a sweet spot from the movie and I think we got a good start with more to come. BUT I'm hoping the director flushes out a character that we can warm to, because the Hulk has always been more than just a screaming monster in the comics. If they have brought dimension and substance to this character, I think many of the complaints about his CGI presence will subside, because audiences will finally get to connect with the Hulk. Just a thought...

 

[Asgard]

His skin looked too much like shiny plastic. That was my problem. Hopefully when they complete the cg effects, it'll look more like Ang Lee's Hulk.

 

[Marvin]

daytime cgi has the ability to achieve powerful lighting contrast

without that, it's washed
just like with drawing, it's the contrast with lighting that makes things pop

that's why transformers worked so well, bay movies are naturally set in contrasty worlds

if u look at the originally hulk(angless)
the night time stuff was kinda horrible
the day stuff was mostly amazing

that being said
let them polish the damn movie before u comment on it looking finished or not
otherwise ur just stating the obvious.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

The new Hulk looks great, both a nod to the comic books which birthed him, and the TV show, which gave him cinema life. Now with all that said, i still favor the 2003 Hulk model better, because the Hulk doesn't have to be extremely yoked out to show that he's the strongest one there is. His build is too scuplted, but i don't want to sound as if i'm complaining, i just think the 2003 CG model was perfect, despite others opinion. There were times he looked so freakin' real! I really can't wait to see the first transformation scene, which the first movie handled well. As for the new 2008 Hulk, he looks more monstorous than his earlier predessor, which i love- but he just doesn't look as real. Overall, i know it'll be all good come June 13th, and for the full theaterical trailer!

 

[Asgard]

daytime cgi has the ability to achieve powerful lighting contrast

without that, it's washed
just like with drawing, it's the contrast with lighting that makes things pop

that's why transformers worked so well, bay movies are naturally set in contrasty worlds

if u look at the originally hulk(angless)
the night time stuff was kinda horrible
the day stuff was mostly amazing

Thanks.

that being said
let them polish the damn movie before u comment on it looking finished or not
otherwise ur just stating the obvious.

Lol. Ill post whatever I want about this movie whenever I fee like it. I don't care if you think Im stating the obvious or not. If you don't like what Im posting or it's a rehash of countless posts on this thread, why dont you do yourself a favor and get over it.

 

[Marvin]

as far as in context examples of what i'm talking about...

original night(finished)

Hulk(2008) night(unfinished)

that first one seems off, but oh well

original daytime (finished)
(check the arm)

hulk2008 daytime

??

 

[Pickle-El]

You guys keep nitpicking small details of the CGI when you all know it's not finished yet. So I understand bringing it up and saying you hope they fix that but none of it should bug you because they are not done.

And yes I'll repeat this over and over and over when responding to people who keep saying the same things over and over and over. LOL

They said the same thing about FF and FF2....And, for the most part, except for the 'money shots' the rendering was not that great. That's the fear I have for this movie when it comes to SFX.

I think, we need to see some day shots of Hulk though if we are to make serious comparisons to the fabulous job that ILM did the the first Hulk.

Anyone know who's doing the effects this time around?

 

[Marvin]

Thanks.

you're welcome

Lol. Ill post whatever I want about this movie whenever I fee like it. I don't care if you think Im stating the obvious or not. If you don't like what Im posting or it's a rehash of countless posts on this thread, why dont you do yourself a favor and get over it.

good way to end up with your own foot in your mouth...
i'd rather do you a favour, mister taking a broad comment/post personally

 

[Marvin]

2003 "night time"

 

[Asgard]

good way to end up with your own foot in your mouth...
i'd rather do you a favour, mister taking a broad comment/post personally

Hahaha, sure. You should probably make the distinction that youre not singling out a single poster when trying to make a broad point. Especially when the first part of your post addresses me specifically. Otherwise, this happens.

 

[Comicfan]

as far as in context examples of what i'm talking about...

original night(finished)

Hulk(2008) night(unfinished)

that first one seems off, but oh well

original daytime (finished)
(check the arm)

hulk2008 daytime

??

You know I think one of the problems with the new Hulk (besides the shinny skin) is that he is to ripped...

The "old" hulk looked more like a real "person" because you could see the muscle under the skin, and you could see how it has more defined when he was angry (flexing), like in the scenes were he was roaring, the fight with the tanks ot the final fight when he is trying to lift the big "dad" rock

Look at the new one when he comes out of the rubble, he is all ripped, like he is straining himself, like he has no skin at all or the skin barelly cover his body, you can even see big bulging veins (that look really fake)

just looks at his pecs the have the same definition whe n he is walking to the camera and when he is roaring...

 

[Comicfan]

The more I look at that Myspace gif of this new Hulk roaring, the less polished the effects look. I should probably stop looking at it.

I have the same feeling, the more I watch the trailer the more dissapointed I get

 

[Asgard]

Wow, thanks for the images Marvin.

The first one is especially telling. The one of the Hulk in the trailer looks much better than that shot and its not even finished.

 

[OneKnight]

They said the same thing about FF and FF2....And, for the most part, except for the 'money shots' the rendering was not that great. That's the fear I have for this movie when it comes to SFX.

You're not the only one.

I think, we need to see some day shots of Hulk though if we are to make serious comparisons to the fabulous job that ILM did the the first Hulk.

Agreed.

Anyone know who's doing the effects this time around?

Rhythm & Hues. And they're no ILM.

 

[Savage]

You know I think one of the problems with the new Hulk (besides the shinny skin) is that he is to ripped...

The "old" hulk looked more like a real "person" because you could see the muscle under the skin, and you could see how it has more defined when he was angry (flexing), like in the scenes were he was roaring, the fight with the tanks ot the final fight when he is trying to lift the big "dad" rock

Look at the new one when he comes out of the rubble, he is all ripped, like he is straining himself, like he has no skin at all or the skin barelly cover his body, you can even see big bulging veins (that look really fake)

just looks at his pecs the have the same definition whe n he is walking to the camera and when he is roaring...

Well I actually think the new look makes sense. The very little fat that Banner already has is stretched thin so this Hulk may very well have 0% body fat. So of course the muscles and veins are popping.

My one gripe with this Hulk is with Ang's Hulk you can fit the rage right off the bat. He transformed and just went ape****. People got the hell out of the way. This Hulk casually walks out and thinks "Ooh. Monster. Roaaaaar!". He should have come flying out of the rubble or at least charging out immediately. Like a frickin' Rhino on PCP or something. I still get a chill when Hulk bursts out of that tank and does that scream. That just looks like pure unsustainable rage.

 

[Comicfan]

You're not the only one.

Agreed.

Rhythm & Hues. And they're no ILM.

I hope they really deliver and stop using the "unfinished" excuse

Or they will do like in transformers and shake the camera like crazy to hide the CGI flaws

 

[Comicfan]

Well I actually think the new look makes sense. The very little fat that Banner already has is stretched thin so this Hulk may very well have 0% body fat. So of course the muscles and veins are popping.

My one gripe with this Hulk is with Ang's Hulk you can fit the rage right off the bat. He transformed and just went ape****. People got the hell out of the way. This Hulk casually walks out and thinks "Ooh. Monster. Roaaaaar!". He should have come flying out of the rubble or at least charging out immediately. Like a frickin' Rhino on PCP or something. I still get a chill when Hulk bursts out of that tank and does that scream. That just looks like pure unsustainable rage.

HAHAAHAHA

I thought the same..t:

he even do a "cool" walk and a shoulder roll before roaring... It was like "ok... it is show time, let everybody know HULK is in tah house"