The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[Nivek]

Blah! The Things suit looks like crap. That character needs to be CG for all the same reasons as Hulk does.

 

[FrostBite]

worked fine for the thing and hulk is much less complicated. if you honestly feel that the only way to do it is with CG, then don't make the damn movie. wait till it gets better.

but like a said before, CG will never be able to replace a human being.

Actually, no, it didn't.

 

[M.O.Steel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdFTbDVG6c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCjWaCsOtb0

i'm gonna agree to disagree...the CG just hasn't gotten to where it should to completely replace people. the scene where he jumps out of the window is horrible. the whole sequence looks like a videogame.

 

[M.O.Steel]

Actually, no, it didn't.

Blah! The Things suit looks like crap. That character needs to be CG for all the same reasons as Hulk does.

to each his own. IMO, it sure as hell beats the xbox360 version we're getting.

 

[bubbadoom]

I would say Hellboy is a better analogy to the Hulk than the Thing is, and Hellboy's make-up was fantastic! The Hulk could be done just as well with prosthetics as he has been done in the past two movies.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

I would say Hellboy is a better analogy to the Hulk than the Thing is, and Hellboy's make-up was fantastic! The Hulk could be done just as well with prosthetics as he has been done in the past two movies.

Yeah they could've done that and used forced perspective. But who would you get to play him? What actor? Its a little late for all the complaining and it has become a moot point to go back and forth with this already.

 

[FrostBite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdFTbDVG6c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCjWaCsOtb0

i'm gonna agree to disagree...the CG just hasn't gotten to where it should to completely replace people. the scene where he jumps out of the window is horrible. the whole sequence looks like a videogame.

Keep hearing this videogame crap, and yet, as a bigger gamer than movie watcher, I hate to say it, no game could come close.


But oh how I wish they could. Maybe next-gen. Hyde looks fine, but I still prefer a CG Hulk. And yes, I do disagree, because to me these scenes in Hulk look fine honestly, some even fantastic (Car ripping in half sequence.)

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Keep hearing this videogame crap, and yet, as a bigger gamer than movie watcher, I hate to say it, no game could come close.


But oh how I wish they could. Maybe next-gen. Hyde looks fine, but I still prefer a CG Hulk. And yes, I do disagree, because to me these scenes in Hulk look fine honestly, some even fantastic (Car ripping in half sequence.)

I think it will do well. Have you compared the screen shots to the UD version? Much better quality.

 

[Prefix]

Prefix and Mercur-whatever you guys just do us all a favor and don't go see the movie and don't look at any of the pictures then you'll be happy!!! Because obviously it's just below your level of scientific explanation and they didn't consult you guys on the design and/or "rendering" so obviously you won't be able to enjoy the movie.

"if u dunt lyk wat i lyk den go away!"

I still want to see the movie because I'm not going to write it off simply due to special effects. This doesn't mean I can't discuss the topic. As I said in another thread, I actually like more things about this movie than I hate. But I think CGI is important in a movie like this, so I'm concerned about it.

The rest of us will keep an opened mind while the majority of us think the new HULK is better. I guess you thought the Incredible inflated HULK scene in the foam looked real too!

You heard it everyone! You only have an open mind if you think the new Hulk is better!

 

[Sava]

Well when Hulk is in the cave with Betty, his back muscles seem pretty relaxed.



Well with Leterrier saying that the CGI is not finished yet and that the finished CGI is past King Kong and Empire saying the finished CGI is so good that it is almost photorealistic, then I assumed that most scenes in the trailer are unfinished as they do not look finished compared to the night time shots and the close up shot.

if this is true, thats a big if BTW, then what they are doing is even more ******ed IMO, Marvel should have moved the release date back, given R&H time to get some shots finished and then used those "photorealistic" shots in the trailers, and say "there, this is going to be MUCH better than the last one ", insted of saying "It'll be better, we promise".

 

[Nivek]

Keep hearing this videogame crap, and yet, as a bigger gamer than movie watcher, I hate to say it, no game could come close.

And you know, I've seen game animation thats pretty awesome in it's own right. Is it really an insult considering the quality of next gen graphics on game consoles? To me it just makes whoever is saying something like that look like more of a *****e.

 

[HULKFish]

"if u dunt lyk wat i lyk den go away!"

I still want to see the movie because I'm not going to write it off simply due to special effects. This doesn't mean I can't discuss the topic. As I said in another thread, I actually like more things about this movie than I hate. But I think CGI is important in a movie like this, so I'm concerned about it.

You heard it everyone! You only have an open mind if you think the new Hulk is better!

That's funny! You're good at twisting words aren't you... Obviously you have a point to make with your arguement, what is the point? I would say you are a master-debater!

I'm sure you'll come back after seeing the movie and let us know how sub-par the effects actually were too being that your opinion is more important then the good people's working on the effects.

I'm done with this thread... I was kinda hoping to change some people's minds with some good shots. This is a HULK forum and a LOT of people coming on here are already trying to shoot this and that down and it does make me a little perterbed.

A say good-day sir!

 

[dark_b]

Keep hearing this videogame crap, and yet, as a bigger gamer than movie watcher, I hate to say it, no game could come close.


But oh how I wish they could. Maybe next-gen. Hyde looks fine, but I still prefer a CG Hulk. And yes, I do disagree, because to me these scenes in Hulk look fine honestly, some even fantastic (Car ripping in half sequence.)

i dont think when people say like a game tha tthey thing game play. but the videos between the levels. the animation movies who give you some info about the story.

 

[CGHulk]

I'm putting this picture here just for comparison purposes, I don't think anyone has posted this at this resolution before.

 

[FrostBite]

i dont think when people say like a game tha tthey thing game play. but the videos between the levels. the animation movies who give you some info about the story.

Since pre-rendered cut scenes are rarely used now-a-days (even on the Wii) and it is usually all in-game, I'd assume they mean how the game itself looks. Someone went as far as to call this new Hulk "pixelated."

It's one thing to not like the CG, it's another to go completely overboard in your description.

 

[FrostBite]

I think it will do well. Have you compared the screen shots to the UD version? Much better quality.

You mean the game? Honestly, I've expressed my distaste for the screens already. The quality isn't up to standard, and while it pushes more polys than UD, it doesn't look more polished.

Then again we've hardly seen the game in motion. I called the demise of IM and Hulk games long ago when A) SEGA bought the rights B) gave it to third party companies that are known only for ports and or movie games, and C) the simple fact they are movie games.

So far I was right on with IM, let us hope I am not right with Hulk, as I DO want a good Hulk game as much as the next guy.

 

[M.O.Steel]

I would say Hellboy is a better analogy to the Hulk than the Thing is, and Hellboy's make-up was fantastic! The Hulk could be done just as well with prosthetics as he has been done in the past two movies.

yeah that is a better comparison. i wish i thought of it.

Yeah they could've done that and used forced perspective. But who would you get to play him? What actor? Its a little late for all the complaining and it has become a moot point to go back and forth with this already.

i'm not saying they should stop this movie at once and remake all the hulk scenes. it was just brought up, and i was discussing for the sake of discussion.

having a CG was a problem with the first one, and since it seems that this movie is really trying hard to correct the problems, it was interesting that they decided to go right back to using a CG.

the hulk still looks human. i don't understand why is HAS to be CG.

 

[LiveWire777]

I'm putting this picture here just for comparison purposes, I don't think anyone has posted this at this resolution before.

Woah! Looks like the Hulk is actually standing there.

 

[Shivsguy616]

the hulk still looks human. i don't understand why is HAS to be CG.

Because the Hulk DOESN'T look human. That is the point.

 

[M.O.Steel]

That's funny! You're good at twisting words aren't you... Obviously you have a point to make with your arguement, what is the point? I would say you are a master-debater!

I'm sure you'll come back after seeing the movie and let us know how sub-par the effects actually were too being that your opinion is more important then the good people's working on the effects.

I'm done with this thread... I was kinda hoping to change some people's minds with some good shots. This is a HULK forum and a LOT of people coming on here are already trying to shoot this and that down and it does make me a little perterbed.

A say good-day sir!

why do you feel the need to defend this movie? are you getting a cut or a commission? why do you need to change people's minds? He doesn't like the effects. I don't either. and we're both gonna still watch the movie. why do we have to like every aspect of the movie to say we are a fan? i hate the OP flames, but i loved transformers. nothing with not liking something.

I still like hulk 03 and that had less than stellar CG. and this movies looks good also, except the CG.

posters point out the flaws for discussion. I think it would be a lame-ass discussion if everyone loved every detail of every movie.

 

[M.O.Steel]

Because the Hulk DOESN'T look human. That is the point.

have you looked at a picture of hulk?...what are you talking about?

it's called makeup. aliens and predators looked great. thing and hellboy. hulk isn't anything special to warrant it to be a CG

 

[wobbly]

Woah! Looks like the Hulk is actually standing there.

True, it does. But then, that was one of the 'money shots' from 03.

And that's the thing about selective money shots (be it for the 03 Hulk or this new one): For every single still frame shot that looks damn near perfect you have all those frames preceding and following in the sequence that are not nearly so effective. Best example I can think of atm is the close up on the 03 Hulk after the change in the house with Talbot: No other shot in that sequence up to that one single final close up shot (where he does indeed look fantastic) looks nearly as good.

I think we will likely have the same again here: there will be some stills of the big green that will look fantastic (the night shot with his fist raised for instance), surrounded by other shots in the sequences that are not nearly as good.

 

[Shivsguy616]

have you looked at a picture of hulk?...what are you talking about?

it's called makeup. aliens and predators looked great. thing and hellboy. hulk isn't anything special to warrant it to be a CG

1) Yes
2) I am talking about the fact that Hulk is a monster, not a large green man.
3) Aliens, Predators, Thing and Hellboy are all human sized. Forced perspective would limit the directors vision and would make less dramatic feats of strength. Also, they all look quite lame in proper lighting.

 

[Snikt]

Honestly, I think some people are analyzing the Hulk just a wee bit too much. I honestly think the hulk looks just fine. He seems to be nothing but muscle, which is perfectly fine with me and it makes sense.

 

[wobbly]

Aliens, Predators and Hellboy all looked great (though Aliens have been CGI'd in a few of those films now too).

The Thing....looked like what he was: A man in a rubber suit (a nicely done rubber suit, but as irritatingly fake looking to me as any dodgy CGI). Basically, looking as he did, he had no 'wow' factor whatsoever (at least for me at any rate).

Ideally, I'd have liked the Thing and the Hulk to be a combination of prosthetics & CGI rather than exclusively one or the other - I personally think this combo would work better in the end.