The Klingon Thread

[Rowsdower!]

Anyone else think that Klingon looks like Tiny Lister (Deebo in Friday, prisoner in TDK)? Maybe it's actually him, I don't know.

 

[thestartrekker]

From the cast ; Teebone Mitchell is starfleet presumably

Though I kinda thought it might be him at first glance.

Jonathan Dixon seems to be reprising his role:

Ser'darius Blain
Can't find anything to say no, but din't think it was him

I know, awfully racialist thinking of only black actors, considering, Mark Lenard, Christopher Llyod, Christopher Plummer, David Warner, Todd Byrant, John Schuck, who played all the major klingon characters in the 1-6 movies all fit into that category

 

[godisawesome]

I actually really like their helmet and trench coat looks, because they remind me of Soviet Union uniforms and if any species in Star Trek would still have enough emphasis on melee combat to justify face covering helmets, it would be the Klingons.

If they make a third film, I wouldn't mind some exploration of the three way struggle between the Klingons, Romulans, and Federation. The former two use somewhat similar ship designs and seemed to have a relationship based off of "Red Russia" and "Red China" all through the series. In this new timeline, the Federation seems to have beefed up its military capabilities, so maybe the Empires stay friends longer?

 

[Soapy]

I hope the Klingons play a big role in the next one. They haven't had a prominent spot in the film series since Undiscovered Country.

 

[TDK010]

Really hope we get to see the Klingon Bird Of Prey in the next one. Absolutely love that ship!

 

[Closerframe]

I feel as if all the references to the Klingons and their role in Into Darkness is a good indication they will likely be the main threat in the third film. They've already been pissed off by two of the villains from the previous movies.

 

[Avangarde]

Agreed, the fact that there is now an imminent war with the Klingon Empire will be hard to escape the story of the next film. Whether or not they will be the main villain though will remain to be seen.

 

[jmc]

Really hope we get to see the Klingon Bird Of Prey in the next one. Absolutely love that ship!

Wasn't the ship in the film a Bird of Prey? It looked like one to me.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

So Klingons only have a brief cameo in this movie or a just a few scenes here and there? I remember that they were suppose to be in the opening scene with Nero in the first Star Trek but it got deleted but I believe it's on the Star Trek blu ray.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

So Klingons only have a brief cameo in this movie or a just a few scenes here and there? I remember that they were suppose to be in the opening scene with Nero in the first Star Trek but it got deleted but I believe it's on the Star Trek blu ray.

You see them in Action...

 

[thestartrekker]

Spoiler

You see them gettting their asses handed to them for all of three minutes. One of them takes his helmet off

 

[VM1138]

I liked the makeup work. The Klingon looked downright creepy. I think they will.have a big role in the next one, but I don't think it will be in a war. STID seemed to imply that they may be returning to deep space and exploration. So I bet the Klingons will be rogue or be in cahoots with the Romulans somehow. Maybe one tries to seize the Enterprise or stage a coup on a distant planet and the crew intervenes.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I gather the Klingon's will more than likely be the main adversary in movie 3. The make-up looked great and I like the new look of the warbirds.

 

[DrCosmic]

Yeah, they kept saying the was inevitable, inevitable!

They looked awesome, I agree. Love to see them in action.

 

[DKDetective]

I dunno how I feel about the Abramsverse Klingons and Kronos. On one hand, the Kronos sets/landscape looked more alien than Rura Penthe from the deleted scenes for Star Trek 09 and I was glad to hear Klingon again. On the other, the sets and Birds of Prey looked really generic in my opinion. In fact, as the io9 review said so perfectly, the abandoned city set kind of looked like a cheap foam and plywood laser tag arena. That could always been a subtle reference to Trek's origin of course.

Moreover, as a former Mass Effect fan, combining the bald-headed look of the Klingon leader, the Klingon warrior culture and the desolate wasteland look of Kronos, I couldn't help but see the new Klingons as a less imaginative Krogan ripoff. Also, I kind of missed the trench-coated look from Star Trek 09 that they have mostly abandoned. It was different and it felt like it payed homage to the Klingons' origin as a the Federation's equivalent of the Soviets as a Cold War adversary.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The Klingons really didn't get to do much, except get blown away.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The Klingons really didn't get to do much, except get blown away.

That's pretty much what they do in regular Star Trek too.

After all these years, I'm beginning to think they're actually physically weaker than humans, but they're just frontin' it with their warrior culture and drinking and what not.

 

[jonathancrane]

To be fair, the character who beat them was a super-human.

But, I suspect they might be the villains for the next film; if they lasso in Orci, Kurtzman & Lindelof again, I think they can make them formidable foes.

 

[Thundercrack85]

That's pretty much what they do in regular Star Trek too.

After all these years, I'm beginning to think they're actually physically weaker than humans, but they're just frontin' it with their warrior culture and drinking and what not.

Good to see the Worf effect is still a tradition in this new continuity.

 

[Thundercrack85]

To be fair, the character who beat them was a super-human.

But, I suspect they might be the villains for the next film; if they lasso in Orci, Kurtzman & Lindelof again, I think they can make them formidable foes.

Should superhuman really trump Klingon though?

I mean, in the ass kicking department.

 

[psylockolussus]

I wish they were shown more but for the next movie, I want to see new aliens that weren't shown in Star Trek 11 and 12.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I wish they were shown more but for the next movie, I want to see new aliens that weren't shown in Star Trek 11 and 12.

Tholians & Gorn!
... or something New...

 

[Pink Ranger]

Should superhuman really trump Klingon though?

I mean, in the ass kicking department.

Apparently, yes. The augments from Cold Station 12 totally schooled an entire Bird of Prey crew on Enterprise, so it is established.

Considering characters like Kirk (the doughy Shatner version), Sisko and Kira seem to be able to go toe-to-toe with Klingons in hand-to-hand combat(!) means that genetically superior humans should be able to treat them like fish in a barrel. Which is silly and inconsistent, but whatever, as a longtime Trekkie I've learned to ignore the logic there.

 

[reddog312]

Wasn't the ship in the film a Bird of Prey? It looked like one to me.

I think it was more like a shuttle craft type version of a Bird of Prey. Those ships were tiny. The only time we see a Bird of Prey is in the first Star Trek in the kobayashi maru test

Spoiler

Its funny that no one Bird of Prey is seen in this movie. Not even to chase the Enterprise

 

[godisawesome]

It's even funnier when you consider that the Klingons and Romulans both fly variants of the Bird of Prey/Warbird design, and yet despite having both species in the new films we've yet to see the familiar shape of a green-bird warship.

And I'm starting to think that it's better to think of Klingons as more durable and maybe a little stronger than humans, but that they're far out of the range of Vulcan physical superiority and perhaps lack human endurance. So they're harder to kill in melee combat, which they absolutely love the $#!+ out of, but if you can rope the dope with them you'll be able to beat most of them. This would even supply a reason why Worf usually kicks other Klingon butts and can hang with a Jem'hadar; he learned endurance from his human companions.

Anybody else kind of hoping we may see one of the original three Klingons in the next film. I wouldn't mind seeing Kang return as a Klingon counterpart to Kirk, being more somber and serious, but still an able commander young in years. Imagine a somewhat more sarcastic Worf who has an adversarial relationship with the Enterprise crew after his scouting ship and the Enterprise get stranded in unknown space.