The Matrix Resurrections

[henzINNIT]

Bring on another TLJ. It was the last time Star Wars was interesting. I'm prepared for whatever weird crap Resurrections throws my way. After a year of nostalgia, I will appreciate anything new it might offer.

The only thing I might find disappointing is the action. Those first 3 set a really high bar in that department, carefully framed and planned. It will be sad to lose that, hopefully the action is fun.

 

[OutOfBoose]

There are some similarities between LJ and MR. Both try to challenge or at the very least discuss the legacy of respective franchises, both have breaking of 4th wall, both are tonally inconsistent at times... Where MR is superior is it doesn't betray portrayal of it's core characters, as far as I can see, doesn't push the audiences too far and, for the most part, it knows what it tries to do.

MR has it's own share of issues too, but it didn't feel as insufferable as LJ did.

 

[BatLobster]

There are some similarities between LJ and MR. Both try to challenge or at the very least discuss the legacy of respective franchises, both have breaking of 4th wall, both are tonally inconsistent at times... Where MR is superior is it doesn't betray portrayal of it's core characters, as far as I can see, doesn't push the audiences too far and, for the most part, it knows what it tries to do.

While I do like TLJ, I might also argue that The Matrix is perhaps a more appropriate franchise to take that sort of subversive approach. The Matrix has been subverting itself and falling up its own you know what with heady ideas since Reloaded.

 

[Iceman]

Bring on another TLJ. It was the last time Star Wars was interesting. I'm prepared for whatever weird crap Resurrections throws my way. After a year of nostalgia, I will appreciate anything new it might offer.

The only thing I might find disappointing is the action. Those first 3 set a really high bar in that department, carefully framed and planned. It will be sad to lose that, hopefully the action is fun.

Bit disappointing if after all these years and improvements in effects the action wouldn’t be top tier. This franchise used to push the boundaries of what was possible and even if it doesn’t do that any more I’d like it to do the standard Matrix style action very well by 2021 standards.

 

[Karelia]

There are some similarities between LJ and MR. Both try to challenge or at the very least discuss the legacy of respective franchises, both have breaking of 4th wall, both are tonally inconsistent at times... Where MR is superior is it doesn't betray portrayal of it's core characters, as far as I can see, doesn't push the audiences too far and, for the most part, it knows what it tries to do.

MR has it's own share of issues too, but it didn't feel as insufferable as LJ did.

I really love pretty much everything "Matrix" related that's been released. Reloaded really grew on me after some rewatches, Revolutions has great moments. But hearing this has a good bit of comedy/romance and lack of action is what made me raise my eyebrow. No pushing the limit or ground breaking with this film is what I've heard from most, which is sad.

How did the action rank with the other movies? Where would you rank this film with the other three, without spoilers.

 

[BatLobster]

But hearing this has a good bit of comedy/romance and lack of action is what made me raise my eyebrow.

I still think the first Matrix is a lot funnier and goofier in a tongue in cheek sort of way than people remember. I watched it in theaters a couple of years ago and was really struck by how much myself and others were chuckling throughout. Hugo Weaving's Smith is a deliciously over the top character. Keanu has tons of goofy Keanu moments throughout. The idea of a character having kung-fu uploaded into their brain and then cutting to a dojo scene where they're doing wire-fu is endearingly silly. Reloaded is pretty wild too. That's a film where we have an actual sound effect of bowling pins when Neo knocks down a cluster of Smiths.

That doesn't mean it's a comedy, but the series has always explored serious ideas but with a sense of humor and irony to it. In fact I think Revolutions being a bit more serious and not as fun is a big part of why it tends to be the least liked of the original 3. And the series has always been a romance to the core between Neo and Trinity, so I don't know why people are acting surprised about that. This film is literally about two dead lovers resurrecting/reuniting.

While I too will have some disappointment if I find the action underwhelming, I still think some moments from the trailer alone (such as the Neo/Trinity building jump) are going to be worth the price of admission.

 

[OutOfBoose]

How did the action rank with the other movies?

Action was the weakest of them all. But not because there wasn't enough of it. It was just not that imaginative or "sleek" in comparison to previous movies. I liked that it didn't drag like in Reloaded or Revolutions, but I can't recall much. It's best moments were largely references to previous movies. But there were a few good moments too. Mostly in the first 1/3.

Where would you rank this film with the other three, without spoilers.

Matrix>Animatrix>Reloaded>Revolutions>Resurrections. I didn't like Resurrections. And I like the rest of the sequels.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The Matrix Resurrections is written and directed by one of the original creators of The Matrix. That alone makes this situation very different from TLJ. If we’re going to compare it to Star Wars, it’s closer to the prequels: the original creator is bored at the idea of treading familiar ground, so they do something very different which turns off a lot of fans.


I liked it, BTW. Not amazing, but pretty cool.

 

[Karelia]

Action was the weakest of them all. But not because there wasn't enough of it. It was just not that imaginative or "sleek" in comparison to previous movies. I liked that it didn't drag like in Reloaded or Revolutions, but I can't recall much. It's best moments were largely references to previous movies. But there were a few good moments too. Mostly in the first 1/3.
Matrix>Animatrix>Reloaded>Revolutions>Resurrections. I didn't like Resurrections. And I like the rest of the sequels.

That's the order of the Matrix films for me as well (minus Resurrections.) Thanks for the response. I've talked and listened to quite a few people on this movie, and my expectations have dropped, but I'm still going to watch it and "make up my own dang mind" lol.

I would love for them to do another animatrix film or series. That would be neat. There's plenty of mini stories that could be told inside the world of the Matrix.

 

[samsnee]

The only good Matrix was the first one and that was groundbreaking for its time and influenced a whole genre of movies for the next few years.

There was no way this one was going to live up to expectations as movies and technology have evolved so much. The story was the only thing I was hoping could save it but sadly does not appear the case.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am seeing it Sunday, unless I cave and watch it on HBO Max before that. But my trip to the cinema is Sunday. At this point, I can wait to watch the movie before giving my opinion on it.

 

[Mani-Man]

Comparing the movie to the Star Wars sequel kinda has me excited.
I like the Sequels for what they are, so no big deal.

But more importantly is that it doesnt change my expectations because i have none.
I have absolutely no idea what im going in here, what this movie will do.
So i dont expect any superb action, new realism etc in terms of Special effects...i just cant.

I never expected ever to see a new Matrix movie, and we have moved on so much in the aspects Matrix revolutionized that i cant expect a new Matrix movie i never saw coming, be that again.

It wont usher in a new time for Cinema action or Digital effects, that is not possible.
But i dont expect it too either...i expect nothing and let this movie instead show me what it wants.

I do trust some in this forum when they write their reviews etc, but not on this.
If people say the action is underwhelming or so, i cant really be worried because i have no idea what this movie in terms of action "Should" do.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The invocation of TLJ is DOA imo. I don't care what you say, if TLJ handled Luke the way Mando did it wouldn't have caused 1/10th of the sh**storm with fan reactions even with every other decision it made. The backlash was 90% rooted in Luke's character. I'd go as far as saying if he just had lived at the end it would be less divisive.

This movie is focusing on Neo and Trinity, bringing them back from the dead, we're gonna get to see them both kick ass, it should be a lot of fun...seriously stop letting other people color your own opinions before even seeing it. These are two totally different films with totally different creative visions. I guarantee you that people who hate TLJ will love this film, people who love TLJ will hate it...it will be its own thing.

For crying out loud this is a series about thinking for one's self and making up your own mind. Don't fall into silly, half-baked groupthink before even seeing the movie. Free your mind!

I'm sorry but seeing people in such a rush to ruin the experience for themselves and pre-judging the film based on a select few reactions is depressing AF to me.

As someone who hates TLJ and what it did to Luke with a passion, I agree with you about MR, it will be it's own thing.

Though I am surprised to hear the action is lacklustre in MR.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

The fact that the review embargo still hasn't lifted has me worried.

 

[Spider-Fan]

When does the embargo lift?

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Tuesday 12/21 @ 8 AM PT apparently.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Tuesday 12/21 @ 8 AM PT apparently.

On the surface, that would suggest not wonderful reviews coming. But even if that comes to pass, still seeing it

 

[BatLobster]

Maybe my expectations were too low in this regard but I'm mostly just relieved that this doesn't sound like it's a Jupiter Ascending level misfire. There's been enough positive reactions that are praising how bold and clever the film is, that I'm confident we are dealing with a more positive to mixed reaction than something that is going to get outright panned.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I always expected mix reactions to this, so I'm not mad. It sounds like it's doing something different instead of being a legacy sequel, so I appreciate that. Keep in mind, I'm someone that loves TFA and have grown to love TLJ over time. I don't think nostalgia is bad, and No Way Home is a great example of it being done well. However, you HAVE to admire when a movie part of a big franchise manages to not do that years later and instead goes for something unexpected. Doesn't mean you have to like it, but I was hoping this movie was gonna be different and it sounds like it might be.

Also, I see people saying it's not like the first 2 Matrix sequels. Listen, I've always loved the sequels, but even I know they were divisive back in the day, so people need to stop with the revisionist history. This is literally the same thing people are suddenly doing with the Star Wars prequels too.

 

[Karelia]

Also, I see people saying it's not like the first 2 Matrix sequels. Listen, I've always loved the sequels, but even I know they were divisive back in the day, so people need to stop with the revisionist history. This is literally the same thing people are suddenly doing with the Star Wars prequels too.

Not sure it's so much "revisionist" as it is people who were kids who enjoyed the prequels are now older and have a voice and speak out about it, whether in person or on forums. When the prequels first released, the OG Star Wars fans were heard the loudest. I remember my dad and uncles not liking them, whereas me and my little brother did. I was around 8. There's a lot of people my age who weren't on forums and such that grew up loving the movies. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there is still a decent bit of people who have changed their minds on the prequels, especially after watching the sequels, but I don't think all this prequel love over the past few years is just coming from that side of things.

I watched The Matrix movies after they all had come out, around 2009. On first viewing, I wasn't as crazy about the sequels, but I never understood the hate. The more I've watched them, the more I come to appreciate them for what they are.

 

[BatLobster]

Not sure it's so much "revisionist" as it is people who were kids who enjoyed the prequels are now older and have a voice and speak out about it, whether in person or on forums. When the prequels first released, the OG Star Wars fans were heard the loudest. I remember my dad and uncles not liking them, whereas me and my little brother did. I was around 8. There's a lot of people my age who weren't on forums and such that grew up loving the movies.

I think this is true, but at the same time then I see now see older fans who used to mercilessly bash the prequels going much easier on them now because it's the in thing to do.

So I guess on behalf of someone who was a teenager for the prequels and enjoyed them, thanks to you younger folks for shifting the conversation and turning the movies into memes lol.

 

[Closerframe]

TLJ comparisons are hilarious. After The Rise of Skywalker, which was just trying to appease angry fans, being the worst in the entire saga, I was thankful Rian Johnson took chances. If this film is subverting expectations and isn’t following conventional plot devices then I say bring it on! People seem to think The Matrix is meant to be like other franchises.

 

[Deck Rickard]

TLJ comparisons are hilarious. After The Rise of Skywalker, which was just trying to appease angry fans, being the worst in the entire saga, I was thankful Rian Johnson took chances. If this film is subverting expectations and isn’t following conventional plot devices then I say bring it on! People seem to think The Matrix is meant to be like other franchises.

This. I have some issues with TLJ (more about the pacing and the low-speed chase than anything else) but I applaud Rian for taking some bold swings and trying to subvert the narrative a bit. TROS was straight-up garbage by comparison; just JJ trying to placate a fanbase that lost its collective mind, so much so that the movie completely sidelined characters like Rose and undid key plot points that were established for Rey and Kylo. The resulting film just felt like a video game with Rey and Kylo running around the galaxy looking for pieces of the Triforce before Gannon err… Palpatine became too powerful.

 

[Drizzle]

The fact that the review embargo still hasn't lifted has me worried.

It's not like this franchise has been completely beloved by critics. Revolutions got a thrashing.