The Matrix Resurrections

I used to get thst took hbo max out of my fire stick and instead installed it on my xbox and I don't get thst problem anymore sucks cause having everything on firestick is so convenient

Yeah I just go through my Samsung tv and usually by the third or 4th week the picture miraculously works again on the firestick.
 
Sadly, I gotta rank this 4th on first viewing. This movie has cool ideas and I like what they were going for in spots, but as a whole I don't think it comes together enough. This needed another pass or 2 at the script to fine tune it. I found both Reloaded and Revolutions to be better films. Sadly I think the meta narrative holds this film back from being entirely fresh and original. Just hits too many of the same beats. Say what we will about execution, but Reloaded and Revolutions were far more original.

I just don't see what I would get out of this movie that I don't get out of the other 3, only worse than the original 3.
 
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The music was definitely off since Don Davis wasn't involved it really was hollow in comparison to the other films.

Right?! My goodness, this movie NEEDED some Don Davis or some good 'ol Drum n bass and Rage Against the Machine type music to energize the action. That lack of energy and swagger was sorely missing from this film.
 
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Pretty interesting. I have to say that so far, the people on my feed who I consider to be generally smart and more 'film literate' are the ones who are loving this film the most. At the same time the people who seem to be more squarely in the fan community seem to be harsher on it. This fascinates me.
 
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I just dont see myself watching this movie again. If I want to get a Matrix fix, I just will watch the original movies. Seriously I am sitting here trying to think of something this movie did better than the originals, and only thing I got is NPH. Everything else was a downgrade compared to the prior movies.

Especially Smith. One of cinema's great villains returns and is dull as dishwater. How can you make Smith so boring?

I am disappointed in this one guys
 
I really liked the setup, but didn't think the execution was spot on. I think I need to see it again.

I forgot I used to be in love with Grace Slick. I was like 8 years old.:funny:
 
- Smith was cool.
- Action except for the final chase was awful. Imagine Matrix movie with boring fight scenes...
- First act was weird, annoying, and new "Morpheus" was insufferable, I had "Kang" flashbacks. So over the top... Ugh.
- Second act was... Everything felt like nothing really matter, the fact that real Morpheus wasn't around dind't help. Everything was so sad to watch for some reason.
- Third act start to feel like Matrix till Trinity "did the thing"... And suddenly I felt that everything so epic and special about Neo and whole story from previous movies has been watered down.

6/10 and I don't feel the need to watch it again. It felt like a filler, not an epic story with high stakes.
 
This is getting pretty similar reactions to how Reloaded and Revolutions were originally received overall, though there are quite a few people claiming this to be a masterpiece on arrival, which was not very common with the other two. I am curious to see how it ages.
 
This is getting pretty similar reactions to how Reloaded and Revolutions were originally received overall, though there are quite a few people claiming this to be a masterpiece on arrival, which was not very common with the other two. I am curious to see how it ages.

Any time a movie generates that type of response with some part of the audience, it always makes me more interested in it. Even if I don't end up agreeing. It means there's something about it that is evocative in some way. Makes me want to dig in and unpack it.
 
I was pleasantly surprised. The action sucked, true. The music was lacking, agreed. But everything else was pretty interesting. I for the most part liked the additions made to the matrix lore. They weren’t reductive to the matrix legacy in the least bit. Some of the additions broadened the scope of the lore, I found.

Unlike some people, I thought the first act was the worst part. Lana has no feel for humorous meta dialogue and it shows. Once it gets back to the intrigue, the seriousness and exposition land of the matrix movies it actually gets better.
 
I for the most part liked the additions made to the matrix lore. They weren’t reductive to the matrix legacy in the least bit. Some of the additions broadened the scope of the lore, I found.

This is the most crucial thing for me going into this movie. Music to my ears. I'm here for the lore, ideas and philosophy first, everything else second.
 
I am glad I read this thread before watching the movie. It lowered my expectation so much I ended up liking it. I was expecting utter crap and it was actually not bad.
 
I've already made my peace with the fact that score will not live up to Don Davis' masterful work. I knew that the moment I heard Davis wasn't coming back. I also had a sense that the action wasn't going to be anything on the level of what was presented in the original films based on the trailers and interviews with the filmmakers about the more improvisational style.

But that trailer was a VIBE and I really dug how it different and almost alien to the original films it felt. If the movie can capture just a fraction of that trippy energy then I think I will be on board.
 
I'll give the movie this. It took a swing. And not the type of swing I expected. Instead of trying to crush a home run, it went for a 2-run double.

I like that the film's scope was smaller than expected. The mistake of Matrix 2 and 3 was that they tried to over expand the philosophies of the 1st which became convoluted. This at least didn't try to reinvent the wheel.

This is essentially a heist movie. That's it.

It's fine. Could've been better but could've been worse as well. Have a feeling that this movie is dead on arrival though. There's not enough of a needle push to please the casuals.

Bugs is pretty awesome though.
 
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Let’s get the obvious out of the way: the action and fight editing - especially in the first half - was inferior to the previous three. Okay I liked the rest of the movie and think Bugs was a good new character. I didn’t mind the Wes Craven New Nightmare vibe early on as was said they gotta
‘eff with your mind’
to be memorable again like in the 1990s. I don’t feel they took that to quite an amazing level of sustainment which they could have but I’ll just settle for the best written Matrix sequel overall.
 
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Let’s get the obvious out of the way: the action and fight editing - especially in the first half - was inferior to the previous three.

Yeah, the action was shockingly mediocre.

In fairness though, if you truly look at the fights say in the first Matrix and compared it to Hong Kong flicks, it was stiff and a little awkward. However it had the benefit of breakthrough special effects within a film we hadn't really seen before which mixed martial arts, sci-fi, comics, and anime.

The problem with Matrix Resurrections' action is that they didn't bother to advance the choreo with the times. The mediocre set pieces are going to hurt the film with the general audience I'm afraid.
 
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I need a certain Trinity scene turned into a GIF...
 
Yeah, the action was shockingly mediocre.

In fairness though, if you truly look at the fights say in the first Matrix and compared it to Hong Kong flicks, it was stiff and a little awkward. However it had the benefit of breakthrough special effects within a film we hadn't really seen before which mixed martial arts, sci-fi, comics, and anime.

The problem with Matrix Resurrections' action is that they didn't bother to advance the choreo with the times. The mediocre set pieces are going to hurt the film with the general audience I'm afraid.

Every fight in the trilogy was exciting, overstylized but not stiff, here however...

BTW. I really hate this new "morpheus", every time someone called him that I was upset. This movie could be so much better if it had more mysterious atmopshere and the real Morpheus who was key element for this series. I know Lawrence Fishburne has gained weight, and so what? Let him come back as an elderly sage who advises Neo and tries to free the trinity. This movie was empty without him.
 
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Seen the film.

The first 45minutes are really cool, but after that it went downhill.
Too much inserted flasbacks from the previous films and the gloomy visuals dont fit this world.

Hope they stop making sequels. The first 3 where enough.

Just a really bad film.
 
This movie is a weird one. There is plenty I liked, plenty that confused me (the use of archival footage after a certain point was perplexing), and some that I just did not like. It's a messy film, one that felt very personal for Lana. You could see the real world parallels pretty blatantly. Some of the meta really worked, a lot didn't. I thought Henwick, Keanu, Kristoff, Harris, and Carrie were awesome. The rest a bit all over the place.

The action was sink or swim. Henwick looked good because she knew what she was doing and wasn't approaching 60. The rest, not so much.
 
I watched it last night. The original matrix is probably my favourite film ever and the subsequent sequels are also high on my list despite their flaws. This was a strange one and I’m not sure I can really craft a definitive opinion on it yet until I have a rewatch or two. Much of it didn’t feel like a matrix film. But then, maybe that’s the entire point . I can’t decide if it’s absolute genius or a total misstep.
 
One thing.

It definitely isn't as offensive/upsetting as The Last Jedi was, so I don't get comparisons, I'm not crazy about it, but I also don't hate it.

If action was better, and they bring back real Morpheus I could give it 7/10 and be very happy.
 
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A B- cinemascore, the lowest for the franchise.
 
Another thing that didn’t sit right with me…

The fact that after all she did to unbalance the equation, The Oracle just up and vanishes after Revolutions. The Architect reboots himself as NPH in this movie and if he’s the father of the Matrix, why couldn’t the same be done for the Oracle?
 
The action was boring and the analyst a reallly stupid character.
This movie is a Rehash, brings nothing new to the table.

Action like in Reloaded wont be topped in this franchise, also the music is forgattable.
 

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