The Amazing Spider-Man The Night Gwen Stacy Died

[spida-man]

How should the classic story be adapted into this reboot? We know it;s gonna be done,it NEEDS to be done. question is how should it be done?

should it be done almost exactly like the original comic? Or should it be toned down in order for little kids to be able to see it.

IMO, screw the little kids, I want her death to be done accurately.

show her getting knocked off the bridge

show Spidey freak out and shoot a thin webline

show the webline "swick" at her foot

let us hear and see her neck getting snapped

show Spidey reel her in back up to him, holding her in his arms

Let us experience him being horrified at her being dead.

but knowing how the MPAA, and how film studios act like wussies and quake in fear when the MPPA makes a decision on whether something is R or PG-13

Sony is prob gonna pull a "Dark Knight" and try to stretch it as far as possible while still keeping it PG-13:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Dark-Knight-Rises-PG-13-Bad-Movies-30336.html

personally IDGAF if it ended up being rated R.

it's not gonna stop anyone from going to see it.
and because it's Spider-Man parents will still take their kids.

some may question why it's rated R, but regardless most parents these days don't pay attention to ratings anyway and will take their kids to any effin movie now a days.

perfect examples: parents taking their kids to see WATCHMEN.

and more recently I went to a 10:30 PM showing with a group of my friends to see 21 Jump Street and some woman brought 3 little boys with her..ON A SCHOOL NIGHT.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

Lets say if Webb was balsy he would not having any music when Parker fires the web line, and we hear that "Crack".
Is that pushing it...?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Let's not get crazy. A Spider-Man movie will never be rated R.

TDK is a perfect example of how to push the limits of a PG-13 movie, whilst still retaining the PG-13 rating.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i know everyone expects her to be killed off at some point but how does anyone know this will actaly happen?

webb might decide not to follow the comics that close

 

[Oscorp]

Lets say if Webb was balsy he would not having any music when Parker fires the web line, and we hear that "Crack".
Is that pushing it...?

I really hope it ends up like that. I'd even be happy with no music in the battle after that as well. Sometimes silence speaks more than music. I really liked for example how the final battle against Green Goblin in SM1 had no music.

 

[Oscorp]

Let's not get crazy. A Spider-Man movie will never be rated R.

TDK is a perfect example of how to push the limits of a PG-13 movie, whilst still retaining the PG-13 rating.

Yeah you can actually do alot even with PG-13. I think Carnage is the only villain that would need an R rating but hey, who seriously wants that guy in a Spidey movie anyway?

i know everyone expects her to be killed off at some point but how does anyone know this will actaly happen?

webb might decide not to follow the comics that close

Webb has mentioned Gwen's storyarc and even mentioned the Death of Gwen Stacy if I remember correctly, talking about how her story is epic and very important in the Spider-Man saga. Also, there will be some hints at Norman Osborn in this film, not including the whole presence of Oscorp. So yeah, I definitely think we'll see the death of Gwen in either ASM2 or 3.

EDIT: Also, I agree with you spida-man that Sony shouldn't be afraid to be accurate this time, showing the snap and everything. I think they still can do that even with a PG13 rating. Kids have seen and will see far worse and more visual things in other films.

The only thing I'd change is that I'd prefer if Green Goblin actually tosses/drops her from the bridge, instead of him knocking her off with the glider. Would look better on the big screen I think.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Guys, I'm not dead. I'm right here.

 

[Oscorp]

Guys, I'm not dead. I'm right here.

Let's drop you off a bridge then

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Let's drop you off a bridge then

What did I ever do to you?

 

[Streetlight]

The only thing I'd change is that I'd prefer if Green Goblin actually tosses/drops her from the bridge, instead of him knocking her off with the glider. Would look better on the big screen I think.

I defiantly agree with that, I think it needs to look really purposeful. I don't think it's necessary to see her neck being broken, it'd be more effective just having a close up of her foot and seeing the web stick and hear the snap in silence ant then go back to Spider-man, in my opinion.

Being a movie, I'd assume that he'd have his mask off to show more emotion but now I'm thinking it could be more powerful to see him scream and what not with the mask on. Thoughts?

 

[Troy_Parker]

I think it'd be cool if the music starts off all triumphant as Spidey shoots out a webline and "saves" Gwen... then as he descends and finds out that she's dead, the music just fades into silence.

It'd be sad as hell if he calls out her name a few times... "Gwen?... Gwen..." if his mask is torn a little, or his lenses are cracked or something, tears could start rolling down his cheeks...

It should lead into a shot like this:

And from there, lead into this:

 

[Ultimatehero]

I would have it at the very end of the second movie. The Green Goblin would be the pivotal bad guy in the second movie. It would introduce the Daily Bugle. The full extent of Oscorp Industries. If it's not answered yet, we would find out more about what happened to Peter's parents and it would almost be a nightmare-like revelation. We would meet Harry Osborn who is more of a self-destructor at this stage in his life due to his father, using substances to run away from his identity - same as a lot of rich kids out there. The end may or may not kill Goblin. If Goblin is continued, look for an additional villain to rise up in the third movie as well...

OR there could be a different main villain throughout the second film. Throughout we see the Green Goblin's ascent and in the final moments of the film we see the Goblin throwing Gwen Stacy off the bridge and dying. With the Goblin as the main and last villain for the third film.

 

[spida-man]

Let's not get crazy. A Spider-Man movie will never be rated R.

TDK is a perfect example of how to push the limits of a PG-13 movie, whilst still retaining the PG-13 rating.

uhm no, it;s a perfect example of how the MPAA forces directors to have scenes in their films altered in order to retail a PG-13..did u not read the article I posted?

 

[spida-man]

I would have it at the very end of the second movie. The Green Goblin would be the pivotal bad guy in the second movie. It would introduce the Daily Bugle. The full extent of Oscorp Industries. If it's not answered yet, we would find out more about what happened to Peter's parents and it would almost be a nightmare-like revelation. We would meet Harry Osborn who is more of a self-destructor at this stage in his life due to his father, using substances to run away from his identity - same as a lot of rich kids out there. The end may or may not kill Goblin. If Goblin is continued, look for an additional villain to rise up in the third movie as well...

OR there could be a different main villain throughout the second film. Throughout we see the Green Goblin's ascent and in the final moments of the film we see the Goblin throwing Gwen Stacy off the bridge and dying. With the Goblin as the main and last villain for the third film.

I think Goblin should be saved for the third film and Gwen should die at the end of that or near the end of it.

Also the series should not end with three films. i so effin tired of that stupid cliche.

 

[Troy_Parker]

uhm no, it;s a perfect example of how the MPAA forces directors to have scenes in their films altered in order to retail a PG-13..did u not read the article I posted?

I meant The Dark Knight. Not The Dark Knight Rises. The Dark Knight was a perfectly good movie with very violent content whilst still adhering to the PG-13 rating. They ****ing had Rachel Dawes being blown up. If that can happen in a PG-13 movie, so can a neck crack.

A Spider-Man movie will never be rated R. That'd alienate a very large portion of the target audience.

 

[spida-man]

It needs to be like that. If not 100% exact, at least 95 to 99%

 

[spida-man]

I meant The Dark Knight. Not The Dark Knight Rises. The Dark Knight was a perfectly good movie with very violent content whilst still adhering to the PG-13 rating. They ****ing had Rachel Dawes being blown up. If that can happen in a PG-13 movie, so can a neck crack.

A Spider-Man movie will never be rated R. That'd alienate a very large portion of the target audience.

I was referring to TDK as well TROY, read the freaking article!

It mentions how ludicrous certain death scenes are in the film. for example: in the beginning: all the guys being shot by shotguns, no effin blood whatsoever?

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I'm not one of the MPAA guys, but I don't know if the sound of person's neck snapping really warrants an 'R' rating.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

It needs to be like that. If not 100% exact, at least 95 to 99%

I agree. It was a perfect scene in the comics and I think would make for an epic scene in the movie. With good sound editing and a great score in the background, this could be a very tense and emotionally packed scene.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm not one of the MPAA guys, but I don't know if the sound of person's neck snapping really warrants an 'R' rating.

Yeah, every neck snap counts as 1/2 point. So, one neck snap wouldn't make it an R rating but it could be the 1/2 point that sends it past the PG-13 rating. You never know.

Spoiler

J/K

 

[Troy_Parker]

I was referring to TDK as well TROY, read the freaking article!

It mentions how ludicrous certain death scenes are in the film. for example: in the beginning: all the guys being shot by shotguns, no effin blood whatsoever?

Calm down.

And so? Did it really take you out of the movie so much?

Why should a Spider-Man movie be rated R? Just so it has pointless violence? This isn't the Punisher.

Gwen's death (the thread topic) can be done in a PG-13 rating. As I mentioned, they got away with blowing up Rachel Dawes in a PG-13 movie, so a neck snap isn't that much of a biggie either. It was never overly-graphic in the comics, so it shouldn't/won't be in the movie.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I'm pretty sure you can say the 'F' word once or twice in a PG-13 movie. Spider-Man can say "'F' you Goblin!" after she dies.

 

[spida-man]

Calm down.

And so? Did it really take you out of the movie so much?

Why should a Spider-Man movie be rated R? Just so it has pointless violence? This isn't the Punisher.

Gwen's death (the thread topic) can be done in a PG-13 rating. As I mentioned, they got away with blowing up Rachel Dawes in a PG-13 movie, so a neck snap isn't that much of a biggie either. It was never overly-graphic in the comics, so it shouldn't/won't be in the movie.

I never said it should be rated R, what i was saying, was knowing how idiotic the MPAA is, they prob would consider the death of Gwen Stacy R-rated material.

and whoopdie effin doo, Rachel blew up, like a few other scens it was a cutaway scene. u know damn well if it was done at the scale of something like Jason Todd's supposed death, MPAA might be like "ohhh that's too graphic...that needs to be rated R...blah blah blah".

and yes it did take me out of the movie a little, cause I'm tired of movies succumbing to the little wussies that are the MPAA.

I'm tires of all the B.S paranoia of "oh our kids shouldn't be able to see this or that..that's too violent..that's too graphic!"

B.S kids aren't dumb, and they are exposed to alot more than what adults give them credit for.

Also u look at the original script for TDK, it was more violent than what we were given on screen, but because of the MPAA, stuff got changed or cut out in favor of keeping a hard PG-13 rating, and the fact that TDK has a hard PG-13 rating in the first place is complete B.S

it shouldn't be a "Hard PG-13" it should be just a PG-13....the material in the film is even close to R-rated violence...and what's sad is hardly any blood if none at all was allowed to be shown in scenes to keep the rating, but the Tim Burton Batman films had a little bit of blood in it and we saw Bats kill a dude with a bomb strapped to his chest and through hm over a friggin cliff

 

[Troy_Parker]

I never said it should be rated R, what i was saying, was knowing how idiotic the MPAA is, they prob would consider the death of Gwen Stacy R-rated material.

and whoopdie effin doo, Rachel blew up, like a few other scens it was a cutaway scene. u know damn well if it was done at the scale of something like Jason Todd's supposed death, MPAA might be like "ohhh that's too graphic...that needs to be rated R...blah blah blah".

I think you're worrying over nothing.

It wasn't as... well, as vague as you're making it out to be. She was cutoff mid-sentence and you actually saw everything behind her/the building explode. It was more than obvious what happened. If they could get away with that, they can get away with Gwen's death.

- Spidey shoots out a webline

- Webline catches her leg, we hear a loud crack, but that could be perceived as the sound of the webline tightening

- Spidey descends to her body, tries to hold her head, her head/neck is limp

That's all it needs to be, in it's most basic form. Imo, that isn't R rating material.

And Jason Todd's death? Wasn't he tortured before he was blown up? That and the blood everywhere before the explosion could possibly push a PG-13 into a R rating. As you mentioned, there was no blood in TDK. It might have been a little odd to see, but it got the job done, didn't it?

 

[Web face]

I'm pretty sure you can say the 'F' word once or twice in a PG-13 movie. Spider-Man can say "'F' you Goblin!" after she dies.

tbh, I don't think that would be necessary. It's realistic, but it's not necessary imo.