The Amazing Spider-Man The Official ASM THEATRICAL TRAILER Thread!

[Mace Bloodstone]

Ok, it's December, wants Trailer...

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

When I saw "12/1/2011" on my clock... man, such a great feeling. I want that trailer.

 

[VenomSpawn]

*Looks at clock*
Ok....ok it's December 2nd now. We're getting so close!

*nervously looks at clock again*
Hehe...ok....still December 2nd....not much longer to wait...

*sweating, looks at clock furiously*
GOD DAMN HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE TO WAIT! IT'S STILL DECEMBER 2ND! FATHER TIME IS MAKING ME HIS BlTCH!

 

[TheSlag]

Edited and disagree personally.

True drama, drama that is filled with emotion in every shot, is pretty damn hard to pull off. Because for drama to work, you need to build up the characters, care for them, question judgements, etc etc.

Action scenes can still be fun and engaging without story.

Agreed! with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.

 

[Shadowlord X]

The point I was trying to make really is that the modern attitude towards 'action movies' has resulted in a situation where very few directors can do action well. As a result we get movies where the dramatic scenes are all fine and then when we get to the action scenes we end up being underwhelmed and disappointed.

 

[©KAW]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well. It's funny, we have an Avengers movie coming out based around several movies (and key characters), yet as characters, they all feel as hollow as a log cabin.

Agreed! with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.

Indeed, unfortunately, we live in a Michael Bay World, where if you blow stuff up in unison with hammy ass performances and cheesy dialogue, you'll get geeks to go Oooh and Aaah like they're having sex.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Agreed! with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.

Well then be glad, friend, that you are not part of the sheep

Most people though, sadly enough, will eat up mindless action and call it good cinema. Either way though, point is, action can still be fun regardless of caring for the characters, ya know?

Like when I saw Transformers 3, I just switched my brain off (alcohol will help) and actually had a decent amount of fun. Not that I'd give that movie anything above 2/5 stars though.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Action scenes mean nothing if you don't care about the characters that partake in them.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well.

Well honestly, its about the movie understanding and knowing what it is. Like Marvel Studios is constantly shying away from going too much into drama. They seem to be fixated on this thought of "not enough comedy" which is pissing me off.

But I thought Vaughn in X:FC did a great job of knowing what the movie is and I thought the drama in there was pretty well done. Rushed, but well done. The tension between Charles and Erik was great. And Erik killing Shaw in a symbolic manner impressed me too.

But then again, thats the only comic book movie I can think of in terms of your subject. lol

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Action scenes mean nothing if you don't care about the characters that partake in them.

They don't have to mean anything to be fun. Go to freddiew on Youtube and watch a few vids. He does short action scenes. No character building or story, but its fun to watch. Hence the millions of views he gets.

 

[©KAW]

Well honestly, its about the movie understanding and knowing what it is. Like Marvel Studios is constantly shying away from going too much into drama. They seem to be fixated on this thought of "not enough comedy" which is pissing me off.

But I thought Vaughn in X:FC did a great job of knowing what the movie is and I thought the drama in there was pretty well done. Rushed, but well done. The tension between Charles and Erik was great. And Erik killing Shaw in a symbolic manner impressed me too.

But then again, thats the only comic book movie I can think of in terms of your subject. lol

I agree X:FC did do a pretty good job with the main two characters (Charles and Eric) it was on of the better acting/dramatic performances from the crowd of crap.

 

[©KAW]

They don't have to mean anything to be fun. Go to freddiew on Youtube and watch a few vids. He does short action scenes. No character building or story, but its fun to watch. Hence the millions of views he gets.

With movies, FUN is sometimes a codeword for horrible script, poor performances, bad direction and mindless entertainment.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Freddie's videos are fun because they are youtube videos...not multi million dollar Hollywood productions...sorry but that was a horrible example.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Very well, if you don't like that example, then here's another: The Incredible Hulk movie.

Now me and you would care about Hulk already before watching the movie, but I'll give you a personal example. First, lets admit there's like barely any drama in that movie. I don't even remember any scenes that I could call drama honestly. And yet, the movie is entertaining

So I have a friend who went to film school. I showed him the movie like a year ago. He didn't know much about the Hulk or anything, yet he was entertained without caring much for the main characters. Why? He said the pacing and the action kept it together enough to keep the movie engaging.

My point in all this is: Action is easier to pull off than drama. Action can still be done without caring for characters. If it wasn't true, Micheal Bay wouldn't be the success story he is.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I cared about Hulk before watching the movie and came out extremely disappointed. To each his own, but I can't buy into big action scenes without buying into the characters that are in them.


But yes, I agree, action is way easier to pull of than drama. What I'm saying is the action sucked because the drama sucked. It's never the other way around. Ie: Nolan's Batman films, the action is subpar, but the character development and story more than make up for it.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

Action is phenomenal when there's heart to it. With that, comes character development and a great story. It can be done, its rare, but it can be done.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Precisely.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well. It's funny, we have an Avengers movie coming out based around several movies (and key characters), yet as characters, they all feel as hollow as a log cabin.

Indeed, unfortunately, we live in a Michael Bay World, where if you blow stuff up in unison with hammy ass performances and cheesy dialogue, you'll get geeks to go Oooh and Aaah like they're having sex.

I have to disagree with this completely. I feel all THE AVENGERS characters have been excellently portrayed with real depth in their respective movies. In most of those movies my favourite scenes are not the action scenes but character defining and dramatic scenes, e.g., in THOR my fav scene is between THOR and LOKI in the SHIELD camp. The dramatic and character defining scenes in CA:TFA are so well done that I have become a CAPTAIN AMERICA fan now whereas I was not one before and now I eagerly await the sequel to that movie almost as much as THE AVENGERS.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I think most of The Avengers characters were handled pretty well in their movies, but I think that's going to be compromised in The Avengers.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Very well, if you don't like that example, then here's another: The Incredible Hulk movie.

Now me and you would care about Hulk already before watching the movie, but I'll give you a personal example. First, lets admit there's like barely any drama in that movie. I don't even remember any scenes that I could call drama honestly. And yet, the movie is entertaining

So I have a friend who went to film school. I showed him the movie like a year ago. He didn't know much about the Hulk or anything, yet he was entertained without caring much for the main characters. Why? He said the pacing and the action kept it together enough to keep the movie engaging.

My point in all this is: Action is easier to pull off than drama. Action can still be done without caring for characters. If it wasn't true, Micheal Bay wouldn't be the success story he is.

I think you are missing the point here. You are making the statement that because the action and pacing helped carry the movie and kept it engaging then action is easier.

This is wrong.

Leterrier did spectacular action in that movie; he is good at it. That's why it carried the movie because it was really well done action that was engrossing and exciting.

That's not easy to do. Leterrier does well in this movie. Most directors nowadays would have not done anywhere near as good action. As a result their movie would fall flat.

 

[Shadowlord X]

With movies, FUN is sometimes a codeword for horrible script, poor performances, bad direction and mindless entertainment.

Sometimes FUN also simply is FUN.

I recently rewatched the Indiana Jones TRILOGY (there is no 4th film; LOL) and I had so much FUN. Those movies are GREAT and stand the test of time. They are mainly FUN; great action, witty dialogue, great pacing, cool characters, etc. There's minimal real character developement and they are not 'deep' by any means. But they are still classics!

 

[Oscorp]

A Spider-Man movie should be both fun, serious and deep.

 

[craigdbfan]

A Spider-Man movie should be both fun, serious and deep.

That sounds like a good girlfriend.

 

[©KAW]

Haha...plus he said both and then named three things.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

I think you are missing the point here. You are making the statement that because the action and pacing helped carry the movie and kept it engaging then action is easier.

This is wrong.

Leterrier did spectacular action in that movie; he is good at it. That's why it carried the movie because it was really well done action that was engrossing and exciting.

That's not easy to do. Leterrier does well in this movie. Most directors nowadays would have not done anywhere near as good action. As a result their movie would fall flat.

My point was action can still keep a movie together without character development. Drama obviously can't.

Either way, my honest opinion is Drama is harder.