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The Official Batman (1989) Thread

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The TMNT movie only got made because of the huge popularity of the cartoon series. The movie's got a 45% rotten score on RT.


Batman was made because the character was still a pop culture icon at the time. I don't understand what any of that has to do with anything.

RT scores mean jack and **** but to placate you I'll point out that the audience gave that movie a 76% on the same website.

So once again I reiterate it is considered one of the greatest adaptations in the sub genre by many fans of the sub genre.
 
So, both STM and B89 changed things. Those two and TDK are for me the 3 cornerstones ofthe genre. Hooray.

STM was the first, but B89 showed that you could have a dark tone for the movie and that the villiain should be more than a comic relief (as in STM).

Nolan has praised both films.

Now, where does the necessity of trying to put one above the other come from just escapes me.
 
Now, where does the necessity of trying to put one above the other come from just escapes me.

Always funny how so many Batman fans try to play up this civil war angle. Ironic since one of the things that has strengthened the brand so much and helped it sustain is the fact that bat fans have so many ****ing options to choose from thanks to having multiple interpretations. You really can't say that about a lot of fictional characters; not just superheroes.
 
So, both STM and B89 changed things. Those two and TDK are for me the 3 cornerstones ofthe genre. Hooray.

That's a good way of interpreting it. Superman started it, Batman 1989 strengthened it, TDK solidified it.

I remember Sam Raimi saying something about it upping the ante for the genre: http://www.cleveland.com/movies/index.ssf/2009/05/spidey_guy_sam_raimi_says_dark.html

Speaking of Raimi, I think Spider-Man 2 deserves some credit as well. That's got a lot of popularity with the fan base and generally was considered by a lot of people to be the best before TDK knocked it off it's perch.
 
Well I never liked Spider-Man 2 but his original was very good. The only one that came closest to feeling like a genuine Spidey movie out of the 3 of them. I'd say the trifecta is indeed those 3 Payaso mentioned though. Each one was the crown jewel of their respective generations when it came to mass produced superhero fare.
 
That's a good way of interpreting it. Superman started it, Batman 1989 strengthened it, TDK solidified it.

I remember Sam Raimi saying something about it upping the ante for the genre: http://www.cleveland.com/movies/index.ssf/2009/05/spidey_guy_sam_raimi_says_dark.html

Really odd to listen how excited he was for SM4. :(



Speaking of Raimi, I think Spider-Man 2 deserves some credit as well. That's got a lot of popularity with the fan base and generally was considered by a lot of people to be the best before TDK knocked it off it's perch.

SM2 was great, but it's hard for me to say what actual contribution it made. Somethying really different from its predecesors. Even when I rate it high, I can't overlook so many spots that are just bad. Mainly those humor attempts that really killed part of the movie. And when the movie should take itselkf seriouisly we get things like AUnt May's heroes hollow speech.

Still, the train sequence is simply the best action sequence. :up:
 
Still, the train sequence is simply the best action sequence. :up:


As I said I don't like that movie. That sequence is also followed by one of the dumbest things I've seen in one of these movies (the whole passing an unmasked spidey around the train thing). However I think the fact that it's the best action sequence in any superhero movie is inarguable. Just an excellent set piece and if you ask me probably the main reason so many people rank the movie so highly.
 
Well I never liked Spider-Man 2 but his original was very good. The only one that came closest to feeling like a genuine Spidey movie out of the 3 of them.

I like SM-1 a lot, but the Power Ranger Goblin spoiled it for me. Dafoe was too hammy in the role for my tastes "We'll meet again, SPIDER-MAAAAAAAAAN!!!". Look at when he attacked Aunt May, a scene that should have been really dark.

"Deliver us from EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!!!!"

His best scenes were the ones as Norman, IMO.

Really odd to listen how excited he was for SM4. :(

Yeah, I just noticed the date on the link, May 2009. Eight months before the reboot was announced. I guess the studio had not butted in yet with their Vulturess ideas.

SM2 was great, but it's hard for me to say what actual contribution it made. Somethying really different from its predecesors. Even when I rate it high, I can't overlook so many spots that are just bad. Mainly those humor attempts that really killed part of the movie. And when the movie should take itselkf seriouisly we get things like AUnt May's heroes hollow speech.

Still, the train sequence is simply the best action sequence. :up:

I don't know what contribution it made either, I just know that from 2004 to 2008, most people regularly tauted it as the best. Even more than Batman Begins.
 
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I like SM-1 a lot, but the Power Ranger Goblin spoiled it for me. Dafoe was too hammy in the role for my tastes "We'll meet again, SPIDER-MAAAAAAAAAN!!!". Look at when he attacked Aunt May, a scene that should have been really dark.

"Deliver us from EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!!!!"

His best scenes were the ones as Norman, IMO.

Can't argue with this. His Osborn was definitely my favorite character in the whole movie while there were times where I did cringe at his GG. I also liked how they didn't really betray who the character was in the comic pages.

One of the reasons I disliked SM 2 was the sympathetic Octavius. It was just a boring angle to me since I much prefer the cold bastard from the comics. Overall though I think the first movie was awesome because it really nailed a lot of silver age sensibilities & got most characterizations down pact the best without going too extreme like the sequels did at times. That was key to capturing the tone of the Lee/Ditko era; it played with all of the themes from those works perfectly.
 
For me, the worst thing about the Spider-Man movies was old Tobey. He looked like he was about 29 in Spider-Man 1, never cracked a single joke, and just seemed more obnoxiously geeky than at all likable.
 
I like SM-1 a lot, but the Power Ranger Goblin spoiled it for me. Dafoe was too hammy in the role for my tastes "We'll meet again, SPIDER-MAAAAAAAAAN!!!". Look at when he attacked Aunt May, a scene that should have been really dark.

"Deliver us from EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!!!!"

His best scenes were the ones as Norman, IMO.

Yeah, I prefer SM2 much more than the first one.

I don't know what contribution it made either, I just know that from 2004 to 2008, most people regularly tauted it as the best. Even more than Batman Begins.

I myself liked it a lot more than Batman Begins. :up:
But I called cornerstones those movies that really changed things and introduced new things to the genre.
 
I was never much of a Spider-man fan (never read a Spidey comic) however I thought the films were pretty good.
 
The first Spider-Man movie is alright, although it's just a poorly disguised Superman: The Movie remake. Of course, Norman Osborn (and Otto Ocatavius and Marko Flint) is not supposed to be a nice guy at all and the Green Goblin should not look like a Power Ranger, they should have gone with a more organic and creepy look (The cartoon episode "Revenge of the Green Goblin" scared the hell out of me when I was a kid).

Spider-Man 2 is vastly overrated and already heralded the bad things to come in III (amazing that the writers got paid for that mess).

In the end the Spider-Man movies never came even close to the potential the souce material provides. The new one won't either.
 
The only problem I had was the Green Goblin's costume but it didn't annoy me that much. The films were still great IMO.

I really enjoyed the first two Superman films although there were some things in the 2nd film that made no sense what so ever (I believe it was something like they switched directors in the middle of filming?) but I still enjoyed it more than the first one.
 
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Please, let this not turn into a Spiderman movie thread. Nothing good to say about it.

Who has the special edition of Batman with Burton's commentary? During the joker/vale museum scene, burton pretty much says how the film was influential
 
Batman was made because the character was still a pop culture icon at the time. I don't understand what any of that has to do with anything.

I know. Bringing out TMNT wasnt to show why it was made but why it was allowed to be and was so serious and dark. It was more dark and serious than any superhero/comic book movie before Batman, and its a movie about pizza eating turtles!
 
Let's back to Batman 89 please. I love this trailer no wonder why it made some fans to shut up. I like how people bought tickets to see the trailer only and they didn't care about feature movie they paid to see. :batman:

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Yep, the trailer itself ain't edited that great and looks unfinished but just seeing how dark and different it was from the tv series must have amazed peeps
 
Let's back to Batman 89 please. I love this trailer no wonder why it made some fans to shut up. I like how people bought tickets to see the trailer only and they didn't care about feature movie they paid to see. :batman:

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Man I will never forget when I first saw the Flugelheim bit from that teaser on Entertainment Tonight. My mind was simply blown away. One of the biggest disappointments is that I never got to see the movie on the big screen. I've seen every other one made by WB except the one that started it all.

I remember going the last day of school and it was sold out and we had to leave the country for summer vacation that same weekend. Wasn't till Christmas '89 that I got to finally watch it.
 
One of the biggest disappointments is that I never got to see the movie on the big screen. I've seen every other one made by WB except the one that started it all. I remember going the last day of school and it was sold out and we had to leave the country for summer vacation that same weekend. Wasn't till Christmas '89 that I got to finally watch it.


The same exact thing happened to me. :wow:
 
I never tire of this movie. Still, my all time favorite Batman movie in live action.
 
Let's back to Batman 89 please. I love this trailer no wonder why it made some fans to shut up. I like how people bought tickets to see the trailer only and they didn't care about feature movie they paid to see. :batman:

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I believe that movie was Tequila Sunrise with Mel Gibson... which supposedly did great box office.

I wonder why. :cwink:
 
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