The Official Fantastic Four Thread

[Tropico]

Yea I liked that story arc. It was cool seeing them swap powers. I like your idead of Ben being a monter no matter what powers he inhereted. Like if Ben had Reeds powers, he would look similar to ClayFace or if he got Sue's powers he would constantly be Invisible.

I was thinking of something more grotesque, like parts of him would be invisible to degrees like his skin would be invisible and you could see his whole muscle structure and a little bit later you could actually see his guts or something like that. I mean, it's something easy to overcome in a world where containment suits that are like skin and wrist image inducers are possible. It still doesn't take away from the feeling of isolation, though. It could be something cool if done right and they don't make them instantly pros with each others powers because they can "teach" each other how to use them.

 

[supermarvelman]

Even better, kinda like inthe movie Hollow Man, when he gets burnt.

Do you like the Clayface idea?

 

[Vanguard07]

Aside from the originals (obviously)

With all original members,
I'd go with:

Spiderman,
Hercules,
Black Knight,
Shadowcat.

In the "post civil war" line of thinking:
team a)
Reed,
Sue,
She Hulk,
Hank Pym.

team b)
Ben
Johnny
Beast,
Wonderman.

 

[Roughneck]

Yea I liked that story arc. It was cool seeing them swap powers. I like your idead of Ben being a monter no matter what powers he inhereted. Like if Ben had Reeds powers, he would look similar to ClayFace or if he got Sue's powers he would constantly be Invisible.

And if he had Johhny's Powers he would burn himself (Though not hurt) but his skin would all behorribly difigured

 

[Roughneck]

I dont think they'll ever bring Jack back, but I had an idea for them to make a Young Avenger based on him called..

Ace of Spades.

He might come back....Maybe not Jack Heart, but someone might take the name.....maybe somewhere out there there is a second...like reverse of Jack....His Twin Brother.....With his blue side on the other half......Like he is half alien....his father kept him and took him to Earth, while his mother kept the other son and raised him off planet.....

 

[supermarvelman]

Any FF roster should consist of...

Body Manipulator - Mr. Fantastic
Telekinetic - Invisible Woman
Elemental - Human Torch
Powerhouse - Thing

 

[Roughneck]

you're missing one there


You need a brain/science geek on the team

 

[Dread]

MC2. He was in a few Spider-Girl issues around the time of the FF movie.

I meant 616, but I wasn't specific, so alright.

 

[Muze]

1. Mr. Fantastic
2. Invisible Woman
3. Human Torch
4. Thing
---
Gravity


i think Greg would fit in as part of the extended family. he could stay around the baxter building while Reed studies his powers or something. i would have said Scott Lang but i remember his death being completely ignored in the title, after Disassembled.

He might come back....Maybe not Jack Heart, but someone might take the name.....maybe somewhere out there there is a second...like reverse of Jack....His Twin Brother.....With his blue side on the other half......Like he is half alien....his father kept him and took him to Earth, while his mother kept the other son and raised him off planet.....

Jack is actually quite easy to bring back. consider that none of the marvel scientists who were trying to save Jack succeeded. that means that there were things about Jack's alien physiology that they didn't fully understand. i'd say that he has a good chance of coming back as an energy being (like Wonderman). this is a guy who used to take punches from the Hulk and come back fighting. i don't think floating out into space would really kill him. they just theorized that his powers killed him. maybe it was just another step in his evolution. he's half-human as well; leaves an 'x-factor.'

 

[supermarvelman]

He might come back....Maybe not Jack Heart, but someone might take the name.....maybe somewhere out there there is a second...like reverse of Jack....His Twin Brother.....With his blue side on the other half......Like he is half alien....his father kept him and took him to Earth, while his mother kept the other son and raised him off planet.....

It is my own idea, but porsonally, I think my idea of a Young Avenger named Ace of Spades would be the best way to go. He could be a mixture of your idea too, but it could be Jacks little brother.

 

[supermarvelman]

1. Mr. Fantastic
2. Invisible Woman
3. Human Torch
4. Thing
---
Gravity


i think Greg would fit in as part of the extended family. he could stay around the baxter building while Reed studies his powers or something. i would have said Scott Lang but i remember his death being completely ignored in the title, after Disassembled.

I think Gravilty would be to Invisible Woman type character.

 

[supermarvelman]

you're missing one there


You need a brain/science geek on the team

Well that could be any of the 4, I wouldn't want to specifically make the genius the Body Manipulator, since Reed is the Brain.

 

[Roughneck]

If he were family he would be Ace of Hearts.....I like the idea but have it go with the theme of the Other young Avengers and have him have very very little to do with the original.

Also people could keep asking him "So which avenger are you the young version of?"

Cause JoH was never that popular

 

[Roughneck]

Also this Ace character.....Cassie would have a relationship with him, or at least feelings for him, since Jack of Hearts saved her life from that Child Molester guy...hell Jack Gave his life saving her.

 

[Roughneck]

Well that could be any of the 4, I wouldn't want to specifically make the genius the Body Manipulator, since Reed is the Brain.

No But one of them does need to be the Science geek....it's mre imperitive to the stories than the powers

 

[supermarvelman]

Doesnt mean he couldn't be popular. He could chose to call himself Spade instead of Heart.

 

[Muze]

Doesnt mean he couldn't be popular. He could chose to call himself Spade instead of Heart.

but the ace of spades is the death card. do you really want to set a character up for that?

 

[Roughneck]

That's true....but if he's Jack's Brother then his biological last name woul be Heart....unless he was raised with the mother......Hmmmm.

 

[Vanguard07]

I see completely different aspects of the characters being more important:
Rather than:
Reed-body manipulater
Sue-Telekinetic
Ben-Powerhouse
Johny-Elemental

I see it more like:
Big brain/Leader
Support/defense
Flyer/ranged
Heavy Hitter.

 

[supermarvelman]

Any FF roster should consist of...

Body Manipulator - Mr. Fantastic - YellowJacket
Telekinetic - Invisible Woman - Cable
Elemental - Human Torch - Iceman
Powerhouse - Thing - She-Hulk

 

[supermarvelman]

but the ace of spades is the death card. do you really want to set a character up for that?

Its just a name, does Wolverine really look like a Wolverine, Does Cyclops really have one eye? No

 

[supermarvelman]

That's true....but if he's Jack's Brother then his biological last name woul be Heart....unless he was raised with the mother......Hmmmm.

There you go, easy as that. Or like you said most of the YA have vaque connections to the originals, so Ace could possibly not even be related to Jack. Hulkling represents Hulk, but has no connection whatsoever.

 

[supermarvelman]

I see completely different aspects of the characters being more important:
Rather than:
Reed-body manipulater
Sue-Telekinetic
Ben-Powerhouse
Johny-Elemental

I see it more like:
Big brain/Leader
Support/defense
Flyer/ranged
Heavy Hitter.

I think both aspects work equally.

 

[Muze]

I see it more like:
Big brain/Leader
Support/defense
Flyer/ranged
Heavy Hitter.

1. Mastermind Excello (Amadeus Cho)
2. Quake (Daisy Johnson)
3. Gravity (Greg Willis)
4. Rage (El Haliday)

 

[Vanguard07]

Any FF roster should consist of...

Body Manipulator - Mr. Fantastic - YellowJacket
Telekinetic - Invisible Woman - Cable
Elemental - Human Torch - Iceman
Powerhouse - Thing - She-Hulk

See I completely disagree with the all of those except Powerhouse.
Black Panther could just as easilly fill Reed's slot as Yellowjacket.
Shadowcat, Nocturne, Blink etc would make fine substitute's for Sue.
Anybody who can fly and has ranged abilities could substitute for johnny Element based or not.

I agree that you need a powerhouse though. Somebody's gotta do the heavy lifting.