The Official "Get Marvel's Rights Back!" Thread

[venom892]

As was rogue, colossus, iceman, storm, Phoenix, havok, banshee, deadpool, gambit, angel, psylocke , juggernaut, and jubilee

I don't know about Jubilee and Psylocke counting seeing as they hardly even speak or are even acknowledged in the films. Honestly you could debut them in a new film and no one bat an eye or reference their previous "appearances". I agree with the rest of your list though. Rouge was basically a Kitty Pryde/Jubilee hybrid, Iceman wasn't a jokester at all, Gambit was simply a plot device, Angel basically had no story arc, Phoenix was a mental disorder, Colossus was just there, Juggernaut and Deadpool are so far away from what they really are it was awful.

 

[Dr Tactics]

Its not about Avengers may change the game.. After breaking a record and probably half or more will see it again or for the first time next weekend, THe Avengers already have.. So what should we have learned (Studios,Producers, Fans, and Debaters)

1. To re quote spideyboy_1111

Yeah. The avengers proved if taken great respect and care, superhero films do not need to be dark, "realistic", and full of leather costumes. They can be translated as is with very few minor changes

remember after TDK every studio wanted to make every comic book theme film like that cause it made all this money and awards? So now Avengers owns the record and is on pace to be the most profitable comic book movie ever (and I don't see the DKR beating Avengers IMO) they'll want to copy them too? Well if history is any indication

2.

http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=224069&cid=15 Paramount already collected $57.5 million in April, when the film was released internationally. And it stands to collect 8 percent of the millions that the film will earn in theaters, on DVD, and when it is watched on the Internet, according to two people with knowledge of the deal.

Paramount is caking off buy sitting on their @$$ and letting Marvel/Disney do their thing with the properties that were licensed to them. PARAMOUNT RISKED NOTHING and gained everything. Cross studio production as far a Marvel properties is concerned is a WIN-WIN-WIN. Tom Rothman, from a financial standpoint, would be a idiot to allow the rights to revert back to Marvel and would be BIGGER idiot to not allow FF and DD (More FF then DD) not to be part of the MCU and get Marvel/Disney to produce the film. The Jury's still out on whether ASM is part of the MCU (NOT AVENGERS) and it would do them/Sony very well from a financial stand point.

Its gonna be a interesting summer

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I am not holding my breath for Ant-Man.How many years has Edgar Wright been attached to Ant-Man.I will be surprised If Marvel has more than 2 films In 2014(Not counting sony's The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and fox's First Class sequel) and you forget there are no plans for Incredible Hulk sequel.The planned ABC show doesn't count as sequel.Now I am betting on ant-man or Dr Strange as second marvel 2014 film.

Well u won't hold very long. He just tweeted a small teaser image today, and Fiege also announce that some minor rest footage would begin this summer.....

 

[Dr Tactics]

FYI for the FOX/Sony haters, people still consider X-Men 2 and Spider-Man 2 as two of the greatest Marvel movies ever made.

People are just whining because they want to see Wolverine and Spider-Man in the Avengers movie.

To be honest ,IMO, I don't even thing fans give a rats @$$ who owns the characters just as long as they're treated properly and can have the opportunity to exist in the same universe. FF/Avengers and or DD/ASM. Their history in the comics are blended (stories, villains,etc) so this studio separations are making fans angry.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

To be honest ,IMO, I don't even thing fans give a rats @$$ who owns the characters just as long as they're treated properly and can have the opportunity to exist in the same universe. FF/Avengers and or DD/ASM. Their history in the comics are blended (stories, villains,etc) so this studio separations are making fans angry.

are you talking fanboys or general audience? Because id much prefer them all cohabitating.. If not characters, than detail. Kingpin, Latveria, the bugle, stark tower, oscorp,,, shield,Baxter building, mutants, pym particles etc...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Edit. NVM

I think most fans could careless if spidey and Wolvie teamup. I think there's far more important conversions

 

[Gabe99]

Despite 'John Carter,' Disney Beats Quarterly Earnings Expectations

In its earnings release, CEO Robert Iger expressed confidence for the current quarter, partially because Marvel Entertainment's The Avengers "shattered domestic box-office records with a $207.1 million opening weekend for a global performance of more than $702 million to date."

On a conference call with analysts, Iger called Avengers "a great illustration of why we like Marvel so much." Then -- as if there were any doubts -- the CEO announced that a sequel to the blockbuster film is in the works with a release date "to be determined."

Multiple analysts asked about the licensed-product opportunities surrounding Avengers. Iger said there is stronger demand for Hulk toys since the release of the film last week, and added that there are "multiple opportunities to mine these great characters."

Iger said there are plans, for example, to add Avenger-based attractions to theme parks where existing deals with competitors make that possible.

Iger shot down the possibility of purchasing the film rights to other Marvel characters -- Fox's rights to X-Men, for example -- on the basis that there are so many in the Marvel stable to begin with that isn't the need for more.

 

[BatsDC]

I wouldn't be very surprised if they bought Fantastic Four and Daredevil back anyway, and just announce at ComicCon they got the rights back. With the amount of money The Avengers is making, it should definatley be somethig they at least think about. Feige was always quick to shoot down any questions about buying back rights.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I wouldn't be very surprised if they bought Fantastic Four and Daredevil back anyway, and just announce at ComicCon they got the rights back. With the amount of money The Avengers is making, it should definatley be somethig they at least think about. Feige was always quick to shoot down any questions about buying back rights.

Yeah. I think marvel should attempt at the very least, to try to get all the marvel knights back. They have the logo and market it as a joint entity, so why not do something with it? The avengers universe is a big epic one, but why not build up the darker, grittier, R rated universe that is marvel knights? I wouldn't oppose a future blade/ghostrider/Dr.strange teamup. I really think and hope mk's become a marvel studios substation.

As for the F4.. They're just a given that they need to be included in the avengers world. So many villains, locations, heroes, and science discoveries are interconnected between the fan4

 

[AvengeME]

Paramount is caking off buy sitting on their @$$ and letting Marvel/Disney do their thing with the properties that were licensed to them. PARAMOUNT RISKED NOTHING and gained everything. Cross studio production as far a Marvel properties is concerned is a WIN-WIN-WIN. Tom Rothman, from a financial standpoint, would be a idiot to allow the rights to revert back to Marvel and would be BIGGER idiot to not allow FF and DD (More FF then DD) not to be part of the MCU and get Marvel/Disney to produce the film. The Jury's still out on whether ASM is part of the MCU (NOT AVENGERS) and it would do them/Sony very well from a financial stand point.

Its gonna be a interesting summer

Co-produce the reboots and sequels. Give the ASM sequels Avenger type tid bits and Easter Eggs, like mentioning Stark Industries or the SHIELD with the intent of enhancing the Spiderman movie. If it does not improve marketability for the film it is not worth it for Sony. But there is no reason for it not to. The Spidery universe needs to be expanded beyond high school.

I think Fox and Marvel can co-produce a FF reboot. Too many opportunities to cross pollinate. Give Marvel creative control, let Fox handle marketing. But take more than 8% commission if you are Fox.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Paramount made bank for nothing. If fox was smart they'd do the same with both FF and DD dead franchises.

Hell the DD reboot just slipped even further with Slade now directing another film first.

 

[AvengeME]

Not even Marvel can fit FF into their slate. What is the point of another super team when you already have the Avengers? Do you redo the origin? Where would they fit in the time line? The FF aren't just some minor superheroes. They are every bit the celebrities that Tony Stark is.

I think phase III Marvel is a good spot for their debut. Go with an Avengers Disassembled story line for Avengers 2. Break up the Avengers after some crazy threat, but save Thanos for a later time.

Then do a FF movie without rehashing the origin. Tell the origin in pieces, like flashbacks, brief scenes in the middle of the film, like Batman Begins. Show how they go from rejects to celebrity superheroes. I think the first two movies got that angle right but they did not expand on it.

Avengers 3 would bring back the Avengers and make them a staple once again, but you would have to explain the absence of the Fantastic Four which would be near impossible. If you include them you run the risk of being overloaded with characters. Not good.

If you wait until after Avengers 3, you introduce the FF too late in the timeline. Doesn't make sense.

 

[roach]

I think everyone missed the part where they said they aren't purchasing back the rights to anymore characters

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Well u won't hold very long. He just tweeted a small teaser image today,

what's this about?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Not even Marvel can fit FF into their slate. What is the point of another super team when you already have the Avengers? Do you redo the origin? Where would they fit in the time line? The FF aren't just some minor superheroes. They are every bit the celebrities that Tony Stark is.

I think phase III Marvel is a good spot for their debut. Go with an Avengers Disassembled story line for Avengers 2. Break up the Avengers after some crazy threat, but save Thanos for a later time.

Then do a FF movie without rehashing the origin. Tell the origin in pieces, like flashbacks, brief scenes in the middle of the film, like Batman Begins. Show how they go from rejects to celebrity superheroes. I think the first two movies got that angle right but they did not expand on it.

Avengers 3 would bring back the Avengers and make them a staple once again, but you would have to explain the absence of the Fantastic Four which would be near impossible. If you include them you run the risk of being overloaded with characters. Not good.

If you wait until after Avengers 3, you introduce the FF too late in the timeline. Doesn't make sense.

marvel has already announced that they wont oppose 3 movies a year now.. their slate can expand. It would have to anyway if you ever want new properties.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I think everyone missed the part where they said they aren't purchasing back the rights to anymore characters

Did we miss the part where they probably won't turn them down if they naturally revert back ala Hulk or Punisher?

 

[roach]

Did we miss the part where they probably won't turn them down if they naturally revert back ala Hulk or Punisher?

but since we know some work is being done on them then we know they won't revert

 

[Whiskey Tango]

but since we know some work is being done on them then we know they won't revert

Do we know this, or do we know what Rothman's been repeating for several years?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Did we miss the part where they probably won't turn them down if they naturally revert back ala Hulk or Punisher?

and with Slade now doing another film next, it appears DD and Elektra might be headed home very soon

 

[spideyboy_1111]

but since we know some work is being done on them then we know they won't revert

"tweets" arn't work being done. and would never hold up in court.


don't you find it suspicious Slade just tweeted nothing was happening on DD, then last week Rothman tweets that it's happening... and then this week Slade magically has a new directing gig ?

sorry.. but that's how fox works. They're known for it.

 

[roach]

Do we know this, or do we know what Rothman's been repeating for several years?

all we really have to go on is what the studio tells us...didnt they just hire a screenwriter

 

[roach]

sorry.. but that's how fox works. They're known for it.

they've done this before...elaborate?

 

[Dr Tactics]

Not even Marvel can fit FF into their slate. What is the point of another super team when you already have the Avengers? Do you redo the origin? Where would they fit in the time line? The FF aren't just some minor superheroes. They are every bit the celebrities that Tony Stark is.

This is the MCU. U meaning Universe. So what we've seen so far in the movies are pockets of events to make the story they want to show. You can expand this Universe with FF and fit them anywhere they (Marvel/Fox) would deem they belong

I think phase III Marvel is a good spot for their debut. Go with an Avengers Disassembled story line for Avengers 2. Break up the Avengers after some crazy threat, but save Thanos for a later time.

Then do a FF movie without rehashing the origin. Tell the origin in pieces, like flashbacks, brief scenes in the middle of the film, like Batman Begins. Show how they go from rejects to celebrity superheroes. I think the first two movies got that angle right but they did not expand on it.

Avengers 3 would bring back the Avengers and make them a staple once again, but you would have to explain the absence of the Fantastic Four which would be near impossible. If you include them you run the risk of being overloaded with characters. Not good.

I disagree. The reason it can work, like in the comics are that they are too many villains for one group to fight. So they take of their businesses separately and if a need for FF to Team with the Avengers (or have a card game during down time) then that can happen post Avengers 3 (Secret Wars, Infinity Gauntlet,Civil War, etc)

If you wait until after Avengers 3, you introduce the FF too late in the timeline. Doesn't make sense.

We don't have to push it back that far. Even in the current timeline of the MCU Iron Man 2 events were happening during the same time period as events in TIH. Heck They could have already been in space when the Tesseract was utilized to open the portal which may have exposed their Ship to Cosmic Rays and WALLA FF Origin. SHEILD is not everywhere. They we're otherwise busy and not affiliated with the monitoring space travel department. hey can fit easily with enough imagination and we don't have to wait till Phase III. If they do, so be it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

they've done this before...elaborate?

yeah... they pretty much all but let WATCHMEN's rights expire... but when WB acquired the rights, and the film was about to hit theaters they then decided to sue... and lost in court pretty hard

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Don't forget announcing "plans" to reboot F4 immediately after the announcement of Disney's acquisition of Marvel.