The Official "Get Marvel's Rights Back!" Thread

[YoungPrime]

The real question is can you name 4 X-Men with the combined popularity of Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor? And the answer is no. Only Wolverine has any real solo cache.


I'd say in terms of popularity right now X-Men vs. Avengers, the pecking order would go:


1. Iron Man
2. Wolverine
3. Hulk
4. Captain America
5. Thor


and All of the X-Men ranked after that.

I never read comic books as a child but I'd get up to watch X-men every Saturday morning back in the 90's. Me and million's of other people. So to deny X-men's popularity simply because Fox has ruined their continuity in films just seems like a reach.

 

[Project862006]

^i agree x men animated tv show was extremely popular not just for comic fans but general audiences

 

[KangConquers]

general audiences know x men
besides wolverine everyone knows of storm,cyclops,xavier,beast,etc. come on now

I guarantee you that more people know Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man than Storm, Cyclops, Xavier and Beast.

 

[redmarvel]

I guarantee you that more people know Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man than Storm, Cyclops, Xavier and Beast.

That was true before the X-Men movie franchise started up, but after??? I think most people would have thought Thor was a reference to Norse Mythology and not a reference to a comic book character.

 

[kaijunexus]

general audiences know x men
besides wolverine everyone knows of storm,cyclops,xavier,beast,etc. come on now

You should ask some friends or family who are not Marvel fans to name some members of the X-Men. I think you'll be surprised how little they know about them.

Then, ask those same people to name the members of the Avengers...

 

[YoungPrime]

The sad truth is, if Marvel ever gets the rights back to Spidey or X-Men, they will be threadbare and run into the ground.

Fox is set to bring the X-Men total up to at least 10 (The original X-trilogy, a First Class trilogy, a Wolverine trilogy and a Deadpool film.) while Sony will at least fire off Six Spider-Man movies, in the process using the vast majority of Spidey's better rogues.

If Marvel ever gets back either of these properties, they'll have to sit on them a while for people to want to see another film in either franchise.

Marvel has already proven that they aren't FOX. When they got the Hulk back they hit the ground running. And both X-men and Spidey are much bigger properties than the Hulk.

So if Marvel was to miraculously win the rights back for either of those franchises, I'm certain we'd see the integration into the MCU within the next year. Be it a shot of the Dailey Bugle or Oscorp building from Spidey or a reference Westchester NY from X-men.

Remember that we're not talking about Blade or Punisher, these two icon's are hard hitters.

Sebastian Shaw was basically Mister Sinister in X-Men: First Class, and I don't see Fox ever doing Apocalypse.

Doing nothing good anyway.

Fox's Sebastian Shaw was basically Kevin Bacon, not Kevin Bacon playing Sebastian Shaw.

Note:Kevin Bacon was bad, only his scrip.

Man, how I hope The Wolverine flops.. (Please, do not pay to watch it!)
Mr. Jackman; you've done your part, let it go.

The X-Men franchise is a serious cluster****, do even Fox have any idea what the relations between the original trilogy, First Class and Wolverine are?

About FF, I actually don't care about Fox keeping them, the first movie(s) was/were so legendary bad, I'm sure I could never enjoy them, no matter how good a film was made.

Have faith my friend.

1)Fox has some tough competition on and around that release date.(Smurfs 2, RED 2 and 300 pt2 to name a few)
2)The summer will be winding down
3)I doubt The Wolverine has a Nolan-esk script or director backing them.
4)And people still remember the first Wolverine film.

As for F4, it's not so much the team that I crave as much as their supporting cast that would add a huge boost to the MCU. Whereas the best we'd get from FOX is just a somewhat decent F4 film if they bothered to apply themselves.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

why the need to compare? they're different things.

As far as the MCU goes, theyre too close to develop both as movies. And there are actually several parallels between them in the comics as well, and not just the "kids with powers" angle. Comparisons are inevitable.

on-topic: any news on Daredevil?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm not sure there are that many similarities but w/e

 

[KangConquers]

That was true before the X-Men movie franchise started up, but after??? I think most people would have thought Thor was a reference to Norse Mythology and not a reference to a comic book character.

Fair enough. I imagine the name "Captain America" would still ring a bell with far more people than "Jean Grey", "Storm" or "Cyclops" though.

 

[Dark Raven]

That was true before the X-Men movie franchise started up, but after??? I think most people would have thought Thor was a reference to Norse Mythology and not a reference to a comic book character.

But after, there is that little movie a few people might've seen called Iron Man.

 

[KangConquers]

I'd argue that supporting characters never get the fame of Marquee characters, no matter how big the movie they're in is. And I'd still argue that about SEVERAL Avengers movie characters.

Many non-fans who saw the film once probably know the supporting cast of Avengers as "Scarlet Johansen's character", "Samuel L Jackson's character", "the guy with the bow" and "Robyn from How I Met Your Mother."

Maria Hill isn't suddenly an A-list character. I imagine more people can still tell you who Green Lantern is than Deputy Director Maria Hill, even though the movie Hill was in grossed 7 times as much money as the GL film. It just goes with the territory.

 

[Dark Raven]

I'd argue that supporting characters never get the fame of Marquee characters, no matter how big the movie they're in is. And I'd still argue that about SEVERAL Avengers movie characters.

Many non-fans who saw the film once probably know the supporting cast of Avengers as "Scarlet Johansen's character", "Samuel L Jackson's character", "the guy with the bow" and "Robyn from How I Met Your Mother."

Maria Hill isn't suddenly an A-list character. I imagine more people can still tell you who Green Lantern is than Deputy Director Maria Hill, even though the movie Hill was in grossed 7 times as much money as the GL film. It just goes with the territory.

Let's not forget the man in the suit who keeps popping up and got stabbed (ie Coulson).

 

[KangConquers]

Let's not forget the man in the suit who keeps popping up and got stabbed (ie Coulson).

I didn't even know Coulson's name until Thor...In Iron Man 2, I was like "Oh, yeah! That guy! I like him."

 

[KangConquers]

On topic, I really want Fantastic 4 to revert to Marvel...Of the three franchises that Marvel doesn't have the rights to, F4 would enrich the MCU the most. Marvel's first family, Doctor Doom, Galactus etc.

 

[Dark Raven]

Marvel should do a deal with Fox and Sony where they get back Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and in return Fox gets to keep X-Men. t:

 

[Edguy]

You people give the general audience too much credit, regarding X-Men. At best, it would be "Wolverine, that old guy, that other old guy, that guy with the lasers, that thunder chick played by Halle Berry and those blue people."

Or it could be something like this: "X-Man?! Isn't that the guy with the claws?"

Marvel should do a deal with Fox and Sony where they get back Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and in return Fox gets to keep X-Men. t:

"Hey Sony, give us back Spider-man, your biggest movie franchise. In return Fox will get to keep X-Men."

I'm sure Sony would love that deal.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Marvel should do a deal with Fox and Sony where they get back Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and in return Fox gets to keep X-Men. t:

And what exactly does Fox and Sony get.Studios aren't just going to turn over properties because fanboys want them back at marvel.and with all these
avenger related properties It would be years till they would get to them.

 

[Dark Raven]

And what exactly does Fox and Sony get.Studios aren't just going to turn over properties because fanboys want them back at marvel.and with all these
avenger related properties It would be years till they would get to them.

Fox gets to keep X-Men. Sony gets to see Fox keep X-Men.

I suppose Sony can get to keep Ghost Rider.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Your joking right.What Fox has Makes no difference with sony.As for ghost rider I expect Sony to sit on it till rights go back to marvel and It joins punisher,Blade,and daredevil
In sitting on shelf.

As ong as Fox keeps making X-Men related films there Is no chance of Marvel getting X-Men.There Is nothing that will just cause them to just turn over FF to marvel and disney.

And with SPider-Man do you reallly want another reboot?Because marvel will reboot any character they get rights back to.

 

[YoungPrime]

Fox gets to keep X-Men. Sony gets to see Fox keep X-Men.

I suppose Sony can get to keep Ghost Rider.

Yeah but not Blackheart or Mephisto. They get to be used properly in one of Dr. Strange's sequels.

But yeah that would be adequate. I think Sony should take the deal and be happy.

In fact "Being happy" should be a prerequisite in taking that deal. Though being displeased with Fox's X-men films would be understood and excused.

 

[Moridin]

Marvel should do a deal with Fox and Sony where they get back Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and in return Fox gets to keep X-Men. t:

Man, that's a sweet deal. They should take it.

 

[KangConquers]

Yeah but not Blackheart or Mephisto. They get to be used properly in one of Dr. Strange's sequels.

But yeah that would be adequate. I think Sony should take the deal and be happy.

In fact "Being happy" should be a prerequisite in taking that deal. Though being displeased with Fox's X-men films would be understood and excused.

Blackheart and Mephisto I tend to associate more with Ghost Rider. Doctor Strange has his own set of demons: Dormammu, Nightmare, Shuma-Gorath, Umar.

I wonder if Marvel has the rights to Captain Britain. He's a non-mutant with heavy X-Men ties.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

On topic, I really want Fantastic 4 to revert to Marvel...Of the three franchises that Marvel doesn't have the rights to, F4 would enrich the MCU the most. Marvel's first family, Doctor Doom, Galactus etc.

For certain.

 

[Project862006]

fox would keep x men anyways it took what 7 years since elektra till DD rights were lost LOL

the longest time between x men related films was 3 years

now they have 1 x men film that is filming and another in development

 

[YoungPrime]

On topic, I really want Fantastic 4 to revert to Marvel...Of the three franchises that Marvel doesn't have the rights to, F4 would enrich the MCU the most. Marvel's first family, Doctor Doom, Galactus etc.

I concur.

F4's rouge gallery could work wonders with Marvel's Cosmic Universe. Whereas the best Fox will do is produce yet another so-so film that'll barely make a profit.

This reboot Fox is blabbing about is frustrating and I'm openly wishing for its downfall.

Blackheart and Mephisto I tend to associate more with Ghost Rider. Doctor Strange has his own set of demons: Dormammu, Nightmare, Shuma-Gorath, Umar.

I wonder if Marvel has the rights to Captain Britain. He's a non-mutant with heavy X-Men ties.

I know.... But the Blackheart we saw on film wasn't associated with anything. He was my favorite in Marvel Vs Capcom and I just wish the character would get some justice.

fox would keep x men anyways it took what 7 years since elektra till DD rights were lost LOL

the longest time between x men related films was 3 years

now they have 1 x men film that is filming and another in development

That doesn't mean we all have to watch them.
When The Wolverine releases, I'll make it a priority to catch a Despicable Me pt2 matinee with the kids. And we already know which film I'll be watching on the 7/18/14 release date.

This thread for the most part is geared towards Wishful thinking...
We know that X-men isn't going anywhere but as far as FOX is concerned, neither will my money.