The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 2

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Jett over BOF just gave it the kiss of death.
jmc,

Judge for yourself.

Let me put it this way, I generally run with the critical masses when it comes to films so I'm not expecting to like this. I don't like half arse movies.
 
Drew from Hitflix's review was painful, you could tell he really wanted to love the movie, like really love it. A SHH members review in the previous Review thread was almost heartbreaking, forget their username but it was tough to read.
 
the script sounds really, really bad.

i didn't think this movie would be reviewed well, but it is really getting torched.

it's sad, really.
 
Drew from Hitflix's review was painful, you could tell he really wanted to love the movie, like really love it. A SHH members review in the previous Review thread was almost heartbreaking, forget their username but it was tough to read.
I really wanted WB to hit this one out of the park but judging by the plot points and other things I've read it just seems like it's going to go into the "okay" zone at best and thats never been good enough for me.

Not every movie has to be amazing but I do expect a solid effort. This movie sounds like a lazy effort from Warner. And no I'm not judging it before I see it, I'm just saying that it sounds lazy from what I read so far.

Forget the Tomato meter for a second and just read some of their reviews and pay attention to the details in them, nothing sounds really good in the film.
 
What gets me is just how wildly varying the reasons for it's awfulness are.
 
Well, I'm pretty bummed out now. I was super-hyped for this film since the beginning, now I'm going in with pretty low expectations. Probably better that way... But still. :(
 
I didn't like the fact that they broke the relationship apart at the end of First Class. Because of the chemistry of the group, especially Fassbender and McAvoy, we could've easily had another film before they eventually became enemies.

Plus, none of the action sequences, save one, were on par with X2.

I am hoping they aren't "enemies" quite yet. Just not on the same team.
 
It would have been better to keep Prof X and Mags as friends for longer in the X-Universe but I disagree whole heartedly about X2 having better action scenes. This is the first X-film that has had interesting action scenes IMHO. Then again I'm firmly on the side of thinking that Singer can't direct action to save his life.


I concur first class had the best and most sensical action of all the x films. it all made sense and had real context. And aside from the nightcrawler scene that opened x2 i didnt think any of the action on display was particularly mindblowing.
 
What gets me is just how wildly varying the reasons for it's awfulness are.
It is strange.

I am hoping they aren't "enemies" quite yet. Just not on the same team.
Thats going to be some hard core back breaking storytelling to make those characters friends again. I can't imagine how thats not going to be lazy as f**k if they do it if they make a sequel.
 
I concur first class had the best and most sensical action of all the x films. it all made sense and had real context. And aside from the nightcrawler scene that opened x2 i didnt think any of the action on display was particularly mindblowing.

I gotta disagree on this one. While 90% of it was fine, the ending battle was beyond rediculous. Again goes with the bad judgement to put the film in the 60's and make it a prequel.

the best action sequences were early on in the film.
 
The Nightcrawler White House attack is still one of my favorite action sequences in any superhero movie, but other than that, I agree about Singer's action scenes.

Azazel did more as a whole to impress, even after the gimmick lost it's initial flare in X2
 
Richard Crouse says this movie hopefully marks the END of CGI overuse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz-CnQV3tWI&feature=player_detailpage#t=21s
Although I use to have high hopes for this film I always hated that the costume was CGI. And I'm not a fan of overused CGI. That was always a complaint of mine regarding my beloved Spider-Man movies.

Azazel did more as a whole to impress, even after the gimmick lost it's initial flare in X2
I give Singer and his FX team credit for bringing the effect to life first but I think that Vaughn used it way better in a way better action scene.
 
jmc,

If you run with the critical masses, then you're not judging for yourself.
 
The Nightcrawler White House attack is still one of my favorite action sequences in any superhero movie, but other than that, I agree about Singer's action scenes.

I'll agree, that ('Crawler in White House) was done every well in X2. There are some good moments of action...like when Nightcrawler rescues the falling Rogue. But the big 'fights' in both movies left a lot to be desired. Contrast that to Usual Suspects...in which the violence/action was cemented in a darker, noir-ish feel more befitting of a story of that nature.
 
jmc,

If you run with the critical masses, then you're not judging for yourself.

I do judge for myself, it just so happens my views reflect the critical masses 9 times out of 10.
 
I would have more faith if the reviews were almost or totally split. Like 50% of the critics liking it and 50% disliking it. Green Hornet had 44% of the critics liking it and I disagreed with the majority and liked it too.

Then again I still don't hate the first Fantastic Four and the vast majority hated it.
 
Green Lantern
2011
105 minutes
rated PG-13

by Scott Mendelson


I kept waiting... I had read the earlier reviews, which seemed to confirm all of the worst fears stretching back to last November. But the hate never came. Martin Campbell's
Green Lantern is a deeply problematic comic book adventure, with structural and character development issues that should damn-well have felled the film. But like its title character, it overcomes its own weaknesses and embraces its inherent flaws. The picture has signs of tinkering and studio interference. But it also has several fine action scenes, a strong visual style that feels like a living comic book, and arguably the best 3D conversion yet achieved in live-action. Oh, and it also has Peter Skarsgaard, but more on that later. I have no idea how Green Lantern purists will react, but the film as it is remains a weird combination of ghee-whiz kid-friendly superhero antics and truly disturbing horror elements. That the film is not quite the triumph we wanted may be tragic. That the film as it stands works at all may qualify as a miracle.

A token amount of plot: Test pilot Hal Jordan is out of a job, having crashed a new plane during a risky maneuver. But little does he know that he is about to be chosen as serve as one of the Green Lantern Corps. What's a Green Lantern? If you don't know, Geoffrey Rush explains it pretty well in the prologue. Anyway, As Hal Jordan wrestles with finally stepping up to responsibility, childhood friend Dr. Hector Hammond (Peter Sarsgaard) finds himself infected with an alien life form that is in turn connected to the horrifying force of living death known as Parallax. Point being, if Jordan can't step up to the plate and become a Green Lantern worthy of the title, all of Earth may be doomed...

In a offhanded way, Martin Campbell's
Green Lantern feels like a hybrid of the 1990s super hero films and the more modern variation. With its broadly drawn character types and occasionally ham-fisted dialogue, it brings to mind the ghee-wiz adventure pictures like The Phantom and The Shadow. But in its depiction of its villains, it resembles a full-blown horror film. While the film's overtly terrifying antagonists make the film less-than-appropriate for the youngest of audiences, it will also make the film feel like some kind of forbidden treasure for those a little older. Point being, if I had seen this when I was 8 or 9, I would have enjoyed the superhero adventure elements and felt like I was getting away with something watching the evil Parallax (voiced by Clancy Brown... awesome!) rip peoples' skeletons out of their body in somewhat graphic detail. Helping matters in this arena is Peter Skarsgaard, who gives a wonderfully trippy performance as Dr. Hector Hammond. Even before he gets infected, Skarsgaard plays him like a creepy would-be pedophile with no social skills and barely a hint of self-esteem. But Skarsgaard throws himself into it with such gusto that he is easily the most entertaining thing in the picture. So it is to the film's benefit that the movie focuses almost as much on his transformation as it does with Reynold's arc. It's a notable contrast: two people being gifted with super powers with differing results.

As for the heroic side of the team, Reynolds suits himself well here. Despite a presumption from film punditry at large that Reynolds is only capable of playing variations on
Van Wilder, he remains a solid dramatic and low-key comic actor when the need arises (The Amityville Horror, The Nine, Adventureland, Buried, etc). Reynolds thankfully keeps the whole 'cocky, arrogant jerk in need of a life lesson' thing in check, as his Hal Jordan is presented as a generally decent man who overcompensates for his own fear, a trait pretty much every major character calls him on throughout. Yes, the film overplays the whole 'Hal Jordan is afraid to admit his own fear' card, but 'fear' as a theme is no more overtly presented here than Chris Nolan's Batman pictures (next time you watch Batman Begins, drink anytime someone says 'fear' or 'afraid'). Granted, it's a bit silly to hear Hal Jordan complain about being afraid when the whole Earth is in peril (IE - what are you gonna do, let the Earth just die anyway?). Despite that, Reynolds makes a surprisingly sympathetic and relatively relatable Hal Jordan, and he wins points for not gratuitously being a jerk for the sake of quips.

Blake Lively, as Carol Ferris, doesn't quite excel, but she keeps her head above water. Her dramatic scenes with Reynolds and others are fine, but the film feels the need to shoe-horn 'romantic moments' that waste valuable screen time as we get a solid feel on Hal and Carol's relationship during the course of the narrative anyway. On the plus side, one such scene gets the film's biggest laugh (no spoilers, but it's a great play on the whole 'secret identity' shtick). On the plus side, Ferris spends a bare minimum of time in peril, and at least one of those few moments is basically a side-effect of her own bravery (IE - she pushes a bystander out of harm's way and takes the hit). When the film lets her be a supporting character rather than 'the love interest', Lively does just fine. Taika Waititi is surprisingly winning as Reynold's friend, taking a role that could have easily been played for broad camp and keeping it low-key. The rest of the cast basically shows up for paychecks (or in the case of Angela Bassett as Dr. Amanda Walker, to establish her for whatever other plans Warner has with DC Comics movies). Jay O. Sanders is always welcome, although Tim Robbins looks a little lost in this comic book world.


Despite marketing that heavily emphasizes the world of Oa, we only visit that realm for MAYBE a third of the picture. Of the various Green Lantern corps members, only Mark Strong's Sinestro makes a solid impression. He is mainly around this time to pontificate and call out the Guardians on their inaction (frankly, the Guardians are about as proactive as the Jedi Council), but he still represents an idealized Green Lantern with a strong sense of morality and justice. The other notable Corp members get barely a few lines. Michael Clarke Duncan's Kilowog basically shows up to beat down Jordan and call him a 'poozer' a few times. Geoffrey Rush's Tomer-Re exists mainly to provide exposition and a touch of moral support. It's obvious that the character work amongst the other Green Lanterns is being saved for a sequel, but it's still unfortunate that some extra running time (the film runs just 100 minutes before credits) could not have been allotted to highlight the other intergalactic warriors. There is a pretty obvious hint during the end credits about where the sequel will go, but I won't spoil it for the three of you reading this who can't guess.


Okay, enough about things like character and plot, how does the film play as an FX-filled action spectacle? To my shock and pleasant surprise, the 3D conversion is pretty darn terrific. The 3D work feels completely natural and immersive in a completely non-distracting sense. The CGI material looks terrific in 3D, but there is even a depth to the Earthbound sets and scenarios. Considering Warner Bros. set the bar for lousy 3D conversions with
Clash of the Titans last year, it is heartening to see that they seem serious about undoing that damage. If this is how 3D is going to look for the near future, I can certainly see how 3D can become a regular part of mainstream moviegoing (again, providing moviegoers have the option of cheaper 2D viewings). Pricing issues aside, I'd pretty much recommend seeing Green Lantern in 3D just to see what a good live-action conversion should look like. The special effects are a mixed bag, as the early moments of Reynolds flying through Oa are pretty terrible. But most of the effects work (the prologue, the earthbound action scenes, etc) vary between rock-solid and charmingly mediocre (unlike some, I don't let less-than-perfect special effects distract me from an otherwise enjoyable movie).

The action sequences are generally strong. The first act has two terrific set pieces, as the interstellar prologue is followed by a terrific fighter jet dogfight. As is the case with director Martin Campbell, the action is always easy to follow, usually presented in wide and long takes, with a clear sense of time and place. A second-act helicopter rescue is pretty mediocre and awfully silly, but the film redeems itself by basically having characters state exactly that in a following scene (it's a brave movie that makes fun of its own action scenes). The confrontations between Jordan and Hector Hammond are a nice mix of spectacle and character drama, and most of the violence does have a bit of sting and acknowledgment. The whole 'Green Lanterns use the ring to make contraptions' angle worked better than I expected it to. I'm used to the DCAU Justice League cartoon, where John Stewart basically just used the ring to make green blasts of energy, so I was surprised how not goofy it looked when Jordan uses his ring to make slingshots, machine guns, and flamethrowers. It's a matter of simplicity, as Jordan and the corp always go for the simplest solution, rather than being flashy for the sake of special effects.


Martin Campbell's
Green Lantern is a cheerfully entertaining comic book adventure. It does not transcend the genre (aside from perhaps Skarsgaard's disturbing character work), nor does it stand outside of it as the better superhero films tend to do (IE - X-Men: First Class as a 60s spy thriller, The Dark Knight as a hard boiled crime drama, etc). It remains structurally flawed and arguably too short, but the film successfully balances a rather complicated mythology and a character arc without dropping the balls. Its relatively well-acted and filled with engaging action sequences, decent special effects, and surprisingly solid 3D work. Martin Campbell once again shows that he has a firm grasp on what should be the basics in genre filmmaking (adults who act like adults, character who react plausibly to the chaos around them, action scenes that make sense, violence that has consequence, etc), which helps overcome some of the script weaknesses. Green Lantern just barely works, but considering my pessimism going into the screening last night, 'barely works' almost counts as a triumph.

grade: B-
 
"A mind-numbing, misguided pandemonium that ranks as the biggest comic book misfire since "Batman & Robin" battled Poison Ivy."

Ouch.
 
I hate when people say this movie has too much CGI... it doesn't. How else can you make ring constructs, a huge yellow smoke cloud, Oa, etc.

The only problem is the quality of the CGI. It looks great, but not amazing.
 
"A mind-numbing, misguided pandemonium that ranks as the biggest comic book misfire since "Batman & Robin" battled Poison Ivy."

Ouch.

I highly doubt that.
 
Thats going to be some hard core back breaking storytelling to make those characters friends again. I can't imagine how thats not going to be lazy as f**k if they do it if they make a sequel.
I completely disagree there.
They had absolutely zero hostility toward each other when they parted ways on the beach. They got into a fight, like brothers, but then they apologized almost immediately, and realized that they had different views/missions, so they had a parting of the ways with their respective followers. One of Erik's followers even kissed Charles on the head before she left with him. I got no sense of "enemies now" at all from that scene. Charles disagrees with Erik's path but understands, and Erik still respects Charles' principles and holds no ill-will toward him or any of his mutants. I fully expect them to interact on friendly terms in the future. There will of course be an underlying tension there, but the only time I'd expect them to clash is whenever Erik initiates an attack against the humans.
 
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