The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 4

[gkokujin]

i just realized a small gripe.

Angela Bassett is wasted as Amanda Waller. I understand she wants a paycheck and all, but CCH Pounder IS WALLER, vocally and physically.

she ain't doin nothing, my not get her? I'm certain she's significantly cheaper.


side note, Angela's ass could not be contained by her lab coat, my girlfriend and i was both like "DAT ASS"

 

[Mysteryman]

CCH Pounder is busy with Warehouse 13 right now.

 

[Crimson King]

The tough thing about a sequel: how do you sell it to an audience that you duped with your advertising the first time around? The trailers made it seem like a large part of the movie would take place in space. We saw aliens everywhere. Johns constantly talked about Star Wars. Then comes the movie which actually has very little of what was promised.

What are they supposed to do? Say, "There'll be space stuff! We mean it this time!" I'm not sure the suits at WB will be able to figure out a solution.

 

[Episode29]

If Bryan Singer couldn't get his proposed Wrath of Khan-style SR follow-up, GL sure ain't getting another shot.

 

[KalMart]

Just curious,
Do they save money by cutting scenes?
Just trying to figure out the logic behind it.

If they stop working on the unfinished effects...and it's that much less that they have to conform/do final compositing/color-correct and sound design/mix for. Now...how MUCH was cut out has yet to be known. If we're talking about a total of twenty minutes, that's a whole reel (going by projector reel measurements)...it's a lot. 5-8 minutes..a difference in the effects work in those shots, but not really as much with the post finishing stages.

But in general...a 105-minute movie isn't really going to cost you that much less than a 120-minute one in your finalizing stages to make it an incentive. If you scheduled two months for sound design...they'll end up using those two months to the last second whether it's 105 or 120 minutes...same with color-correct. It's kinda' nickel-and-diming compared too what's already been spent no everything.

So it's doubtful that they purposely cut scenes to save on finishing costs, if that's what you're asking. From the sounds of it...a lot of stuff wasn't finished because they ran out of money and time....so saving on finishing time was sort of the after effects of it. Plus...unless they got a refund for all the unfinished effects work that kept some scenes from making it, that's just money lost forever, basically. Probably more money/work lost in unused shots than money saved not color-correcting and mastering it....especially if they were paying overtime/wknd rates for some of that work.

 

[KalMart]

The tough thing about a sequel: how do you sell it to an audience that you duped with your advertising the first time around? The trailers made it seem like a large part of the movie would take place in space. We saw aliens everywhere. Johns constantly talked about Star Wars. Then comes the movie which actually has very little of what was promised.

What are they supposed to do? Say, "There'll be space stuff! We mean it this time!" I'm not sure the suits at WB will be able to figure out a solution.

Dupe'em harder!

 

[RoughNTumble]

has dc comics been silent on this? I'm guessing a lot of them are disappointed.

 

[akfj]

If they saw the movie weeks ago, they may already be in the acceptance stage.

 

[DaveMoral]

The tough thing about a sequel: how do you sell it to an audience that you duped with your advertising the first time around? The trailers made it seem like a large part of the movie would take place in space. We saw aliens everywhere. Johns constantly talked about Star Wars. Then comes the movie which actually has very little of what was promised.

What are they supposed to do? Say, "There'll be space stuff! We mean it this time!" I'm not sure the suits at WB will be able to figure out a solution.

Personally I never felt duped by the marketing. At worst you can point to the movie posters focusing only on Hal and the other Lanterns and Oa in the background. It sucked that that stuff didn't feature more, sure. But none of the trailers made me think that the major points of this story were going to be anywhere but Earth. Every shot of Parallax was on Earth. Every. Shot. That was your first clue right there that it wasn't going to climax on Oa.

The way to sell the next one, especially if they go into the Sinestro Corps is to show that there's almost nothing happening on Earth because you've got not just Sinestro, but all these other Yellow Lanterns and GLs fighting those Lanterns.

They'd have to literally show yellow constructs slamming into green constructs and that kind of stuff.

I'd love to see them recruit at the least John Stewart into the mix, with the justification that there's so much chaos being sewn in the universe now that sectors are starting to need more than one GL on call.

 

[FreeRadical]

The tough thing about a sequel: how do you sell it to an audience that you duped with your advertising the first time around? The trailers made it seem like a large part of the movie would take place in space. We saw aliens everywhere. Johns constantly talked about Star Wars. Then comes the movie which actually has very little of what was promised.

What are they supposed to do? Say, "There'll be space stuff! We mean it this time!" I'm not sure the suits at WB will be able to figure out a solution.

WB are going to need to work their way up from the bottom with Green Lantern. They may just ignore Green Lantern and continue on with other properties, looking at the mistakes they have made leading up to the Justice League. But WB needs to make Green Lantern popular and into a well known brand like Iron Man if GL will be in the JLA. They don't won't a JLA trailer with GL and audiences seeing Ryan Reynolds and remembering why they didn't watch the GL movie back in summer 2011.

Possible solutions could be a lower budgeted GL film or a made for DVD Warner Premier GL movie. It could act like The Incredible Hulk did for Marvel, as a loose sequel that can lead up to the Justice League film. But would they use another actor for Hal Jordan or use John Stewart...?

The animated series could help improve the image of GL, and make the kids aware of GL, but WB have their work cut out for them.

 

[FreeRadical]

has dc comics been silent on this? I'm guessing a lot of them are disappointed.

They haven't released a statement yet, when means yeah they must be disappointed. Damage control might be in full force now, because they can't be pleased with the negative reviews and the box office.

I wonder who the scapegoat will be, since Martin Campbell is not coming back.

Geoff Johns perhaps?

 

[DaveMoral]

I think Reynolds did a great job as Hal. I see no reason to jettison him as the character. He suits it better than many thought he would IMO. They'll have to move him more towards the serious character Hal's been for the past few years though and give Ryan something to do. The guy can act and does serious work.

I'm torn between whether or not they should jump straight into the Sinestro Corps thing or do an Emerald Dawn II thing for the next film(if they do it, and I truly hope they do... no one should be wishing it gone, because an insanely good sequel could really propell the character somewhere) and have Hal and Sinestro do the buddy cop thing for part of the film working on taking down some nasty alien badass and Hal end up on Korugar towards the middle of the film and realize that Sinestro is Space Hitler and oppose him along with the Corps. Then Sinestro breaks out the yellow ring and all hell breaks loose because this guy now knows how to use that power to greater effect than even Kronallax.

And if that were to propel the franchise into a third film that's where you do the Sinestro Corps War.

 

[Karelia]

Kyle Rayner needs some love. I think his story would be so awesome on the big screen. Or even an animated DTV.... KYLE RAYNER!

It should be really interesting what WB/DC say about this. Maybe it won't be as bad as we think?

Maybe everybody made plans to see it next week?

 

[misjuevos]

The tough thing about a sequel: how do you sell it to an audience that you duped with your advertising the first time around? The trailers made it seem like a large part of the movie would take place in space. We saw aliens everywhere. Johns constantly talked about Star Wars. Then comes the movie which actually has very little of what was promised.

What are they supposed to do? Say, "There'll be space stuff! We mean it this time!" I'm not sure the suits at WB will be able to figure out a solution.

shouldn't be too hard they do have actors who work for them and promote the movies, so they will just have to act like it will be better. or do what transformers did with shia talking **** about it then goes ahead for another and another. or what he said about indy but he would definitely try harder for a new one, lol.or what they did with wolverine. shouldn't be hard to promise better and not really mean it, it's called "acting".

 

[DaveMoral]

I'm not sure how you introduce Kyle without having Hal go Parallax. S:TAS just put Kyle in Hal's place and did Hal's origin story.

And, let's be honest, Kyle isn't visually that different from Hal. Stewart makes a more interesting visual and personality contrast to Hal IMO.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

My extended and modified review/two cents on Green Lantern:

I love it because I am biased. I love it because it's colorful, easy to understand, faithful, energetic, epic, absorbing, and cool. I also love it because Hal's transition to a superhero is very ephemeral, I also love the movie because it takes it's self seriously enough, Green Lantern accepts it's comic book side and isn't ashamed about it. Unlike the main characters from other comic book movies, the main characters in Green Lantern don't lead a very bland life nor are they far too bland. Fortunately, the movie doesn't have more flaws than it doe's. Unlike some comic book movies, it doesn't try to spread b.s., b.s. that you can't pick up on. The movie took the time to unfold things when it was right and slowly, in some comic book movies, certain sequences are rushed and don't get the appropriate amount of time to breathe. And unlike many comic book movies, the main hero actually saves the whole planet that is known as earth. Not one piece from it or a few pieces from it, but the entire planet. It makes Green Lantern more of a heroic movie. Another strength of the movie is that much of it comes off as being logical enough and believable enough. Some movies fail to make you feel warm once they are done, but Green Lantern left me feeling good and wanting more. And unlike some movies, it delivered what it was suppose to deliver despite the questionable problems. Is it revolutionary? No but it's okay since I wasn't expecting it to be and since I don't think that it was suppose to be. I like Hal's fear, I like his fear because to me, it seems to be 'interesting' because it comes off as being 'intricate' and 'unbelievable'.

Unlike some movies, the movie not only has likable characters, but vulnerable characters as well. Even the villains in it have redeeming qualities. The same cannot be said for villains in other movies. When I think of the cosmic scenes and special effects, I think of the word 'sumptuous'. As for the cinematography, it was great. I saw everything fine, however, it could have been weak if I cared some more about the different styles of camera work. The editing? I thought that it was pretty good, it's pretty good because I don't care alot for editing when it comes to watching movies. Thankfully, there are characters that serve a purpose and characters who have motives to support their actions. I find it even harder to dislike the movie considering the fact that I don't love films as much as others do, the others who evaluate all of the main elements that are necessary to create movies. Two other strengths are the characters' arcs and story arcs, because they are 'existent', unlike some movies where those two factors are 'missing' in action. I'm not one for writing 'bodacious' long reviews on movies nor am I one for giving alot of explanations to back up my reasons in reviews on movies, so therefor I have nothing else to contribute.

 

[Rock Sexton]

My extended and modified review/two cents on Green Lantern:

I love it because I am biased. I love it because it's colorful, easy to understand, faithful, energetic, epic, absorbing, and cool. I also love it because Hal's transition to a superhero is very ephemeral, I also love the movie because it takes it's self seriously enough, Green Lantern accepts it's comic book side and isn't ashamed about it. Unlike the main characters from other comic book movies, the main characters in Green Lantern don't lead a very bland life nor are they far too bland. Fortunately, the movie doesn't have more flaws than it doe's. Unlike some comic book movies, it doesn't try to spread b.s., b.s. that you can't pick up on. The movie took the time to unfold things when it was right and slowly, in some comic book movies, certain sequences are rushed and don't get the appropriate amount of time to breathe. And unlike many comic book movies, the main hero actually saves the whole planet that is known as earth. Not one piece from it or a few pieces from it, but the entire planet. It makes Green Lantern more of a heroic movie. Another strength of the movie is that much of it comes off as being logical enough and believable enough. Some movies fail to make you feel warm once they are done, but Green Lantern left me feeling good and wanting more. And unlike some movies, it delivered what it was suppose to deliver despite the questionable problems. Is it revolutionary? No but it's okay since I wasn't expecting it to be and since I don't think that it was suppose to be.

Unlike some movies, the movie not only has likable characters, but vulnerable characters as well. Even the villains in it have redeeming qualities. The same cannot be said for villains in other movies. When I think of the cosmic scenes and special effects, I think of the word 'sumptuous'. As for the cinematography, it was great. I saw everything fine, however, it could have been weak if I cared some more about the different styles of camera work. The editing? I thought that it was pretty good, it's pretty good because I don't care alot for editing when it comes to watching movies. Thankfully, there are characters that serve a purpose and characters who have motives to support their actions. I find it even harder to dislike the movie considering the fact that I don't love films as much as others do, the others who evaluate all of the main elements that are necessary to create movies. Two other strengths are the characters arcs and story arcs, they are 'existent', unlike some movies where those two factors are 'missing' in action. I'm not one for writing 'bodacious' long reviews on movies nor am I one for giving alot of explanations to back up my reasons in reviews on movies, so therefor I have nothing else to contribute.

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[S.A.A.D.]

I knew it, I knew that someone would take a shot at my review.

 

[KalMart]

I knew it, I knew that someone would take a shot at my review.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and perspective, if it's of any consolation. Seriously. I think it's just as important to find out on what levels a movie does work as well as on what it doesn't for some.

 

[misjuevos]

we've all been there at some point, just ignore it

 

[Rock Sexton]

I knew it, I knew that someone would take a shot at my review.

Dude I razzed you .... relax .... you didn't think it was funny that Smalley was wearing a green cardigan?

In all seriousness though I don't understand the need to even do a modified review. To me as I'm reading something like that, it's almost like you're trying to convince yourself of what you're saying. Everyone on this site knows how you feel about the film.

 

[Rock Sexton]

RT audience ratings down to 61% ... flirting with the 50's now ....

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

The good thing about Green Lantern is that there are a lot of different Green Lanterns. If they ever want to reboot it, they can do a whole different movie with Jon Stewart. A lot of kids grew up with Jon as Gl because of the JL cartoon.

 

[RKO]

Lol yeah.

My friend said to me recently "Why did they make Green Lantern white in this movie? Isn't he black?"

"Oh you!"

 

[Jack Napier]

GL was treated like a Marvel movie instead of a DC one.

That's not a pot shot at Marvel fans at all, moreso the people who make Marvel films. It seems with so many of them, there's nothing at stake. If they don't make $, there will just be another reboot in 5 or so years.

I liked GL, and some others did too, but we all should've LOVED it. "Avatar" was a movie no one knew anything about. It wasn't based on a book or franchise or anything else, and it wowed people. It promised epic, and it delivered. Say what you will about the its shelf life, but it was a cultural phenomenon at the time.

GL played it too safe, and didn't aim for the epic tone it should have. I mean, the last action sequence had Hal and Parallax having a showdown next to the sun, and it meant nothing. The filmmakers aimed to get it on base, when they should've aimed to knock it out of the park. A cultural phenomenon it was not.