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The Official Marc Guggenheim & Script Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Hey folks,

With the first draft of the "Green Lantern" script being leaked, I thought it'd be a good idea to create a new thread discussing it. That way, the other GL threads won't become danger-zones filled with unwanted spoilers. All spoiler-talk relating to the script can be kept here.

I'm not going to post the link to the script on here, since the Hype frowns on such things. But I assume if it's like the scripts for "Jonah Hex" or "Supermax", it'll be doing the rounds among you soon enough.
 
20 pages in, and this script is just so perfect. Hal's an arrogant jerk. Sinestro is a brave, highly respected Lantern, but his rebellious nature and resentment of the Guardians is already evident. He talks of wanting to harness a light even more powerful than the green light of willpower, but The Guardians cut him down and say he speaks of forces too volatile. Oh yes, The Guardians. The writers have nailed the unlikeable nature of The Guardians too.

One big change is that Hal's mother is alive, and prominently featured as part of the family ensemble. This doesn't surprise me, given Berlanti's preoccupation with family and mother figures in his TV work.

EDIT: Though it's not reflected in the dialogue, I love how foul-mouthed the descriptive content in the script is. I just find that funny. :) And as for the dialogue, it's actually very "Eli Stone". Quite quirky.
 
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50 pages in, and the big revelation is the characterisation of Hector Hammond. This is going to be one creepy, evil villain. I noticed they made him a good deal younger - mid thirties - than he's usually portrayed. Evidently to set him up as a parallel to Hal, since Hector has plenty of daddy issues of his own. The way he handles the onset of his powers is very well executed. I look forward to seeing where they go with him.

Oa is wonderfully brought to life. This is where reading the script isn't giving you the whole picture. If they do the descriptions justice, we're in for some truly wondrous sights when he get to Sinestro giving Hal the tour of Oa.

Oh, and you gotta love this scene intro:

SMASH TO: THOUSANDS OF LANTERNS. Some big, some small, some furry - but you wouldn't want to f*** with any of them.
 
you wouldn´t mind sending me the link per private message, would you?
 
I'm over page 50. That's the first script i read, so, everything feels a bit rushed, but i know that, when it's filmed, everything is rightfully placed. I'm liking it, tought. All the characters have a solid portrayal, but i hope they expand a little bit of it, add more explications about Hector's powers and slow his downfall to villany a little bit. But, as i said, i'm liking it.
 
Only a couple pages in, and I love it. One thing I find funny, however, is that it looks like we'll have another DC Superhero movie that gets complaints of overusing the word "fear".
 
Hector feels kinda rushed and I Kilowog isn't in there too much.
 
We have to remember that this is only a first draft. Things might seem weeks could of been changed. But I do think this is a solid first draft and I hope things just get better from here.
 
I would appreciate it too.
 
Is this the actual script, because it is damn good so far.
 
bring it on to me too (if available) :applaud
 
I'd like one too, if it isn't a bother.
 
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Is this the actual script, because it is damn good so far.

It's the first draft. Based on what we've heard, there's been at least one more draft since this one, but the general content should remain mostly the same, I'd imagine.
 
Just finished it. It's brilliant, and I cant wait to see it. One thing I dont get, we have a cameo by Clark Kent, but GL is regarded as the first evidence of alien life? I know DC wants to build up to a Justice League movie, so are they gonna put Green Lantern as taking place before any Superman movies? I always liked Superman being a first, and I think that whole idea of the world changing after his appearance should be reserved for him.
 
It makes me happy that they've worked in the more modern version of the yellow light, making it a channeling of fear. Though it seems like they have linked it to Legion rather than Parallax.
 
Just finished it. It's brilliant, and I cant wait to see it. One thing I dont get, we have a cameo by Clark Kent, but GL is regarded as the first evidence of alien life? I know DC wants to build up to a Justice League movie, so are they gonna put Green Lantern as taking place before any Superman movies? I always liked Superman being a first, and I think that whole idea of the world changing after his appearance should be reserved for him.

Even if Superman is an established hero in Green Lantern the people of Earth would still be ignorant to life on other planets on account of Krypton being destroyed and Superman being the only known alien.
 
It makes me happy that they've worked in the more modern version of the yellow light, making it a channeling of fear. Though it seems like they have linked it to Legion rather than Parallax.

That's another thing. It seems they're blending Legion with Parralax. It works here, but how will that work down the line? Will it be Legion that takes over Hal?
 
Well, it's about what I expected when I saw the script "reviews". This reads like a JJ Abrams written GREEN LANTERN, without the depth. The first thing I notice is that while it does draw from the mythology, it's not THAT faithful. That's good and bad, depending on how much you care about Green Lantern. The script is fairly well-written, but it's also inconsistent, ranging from intelligent to juvenile. It's sort of like TRANSFORMERS in terms of the writing.

The introduction to the idea of the Green Lanterns is cool and all, but it's execution is a bit...meh. The concept is good, but the dialogue feels a bit awkward. I can't put my finger on it. I'll have to think on that for a bit.

The death of Martin Jordan is handled well. So are the ramifications for everyone involved, including what happened to Ferris, Carol, Hal, his mother and the Jordan family. It's nice to see the Jordan family get a nod. I do wish Hal's memories of his father and the significance of his father's death went beyond "I'm going to have another flashback now" stuff, and had more to do with who Hal became.

I like most of the banter between Hal and Carol. Two actors with very good chemistry will make this work well. Carol's not that interesting, though, as her arc seems to revolve around always being disappointed with Hal, and not about herself, and their relationship is a bit derivative of other superheroes. It needs something to make it unique (Star Sapphire in the future perhaps). Dialoguewise, Hal is a bit annoyingly vocal. He reads like Shia should be playing him. Seriously. He's almost Spider-Man-level vocal.

Tom Kalmaku is here, but he's also modernized, occassionally annoying and relatively useless. Having him being involved in Hal's discovery of Sur's ship kind of makes sense, and at least gives him something to do. His entire arc seems to revolve around getting his very own spaceship.

The dogfight between Hal and the sabres is cool. Anytime Hal is in a jet is cool.

Abin Sur's death is handled realistically. I wish we had time to get to know him a bit more, that he was fleshed out just a little more. Perhaps in a sequel. It is interesting to see his wife later on. That gives Sur a tiny bit more dimension and relevance.

Hector Hammond is completely shoehorned into the story and is a subpar villain with a really stupid subplot. He reads like Dr. Doom. Spouting cliches, turning into a villain and hurting people for no apparent reason beyond hatred of his enemy (and his father, because he's a failure in his father's eyes), etc. He does not make a compelling or particularly interesting villain. He discovers he has the power of a god and becomes a bank robber, for god's sake. But oh no! He has a giant head! There's just not much to him, really. They do a few interesting things with him, but it's always the obvious thing.

The same holds true for Legion. It's a killing machine, sure, but that's all it is, beyond a really forced Manhunter-style story element. Oh, and apparently Legion is also essentially Parallax now. I guess it doesn't matter, since he's still relatively boring as a character. Interestingly enough, the weakness to "yellow" is never explored. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Hal’s first trip to Oa is a bit short, but welcome to see nontheless. Oa will look amazing, and the Guardians have the potential to be really, really cool. I do wish Ganthet had been featured. However, Hal learning all about all Universal Sectors while he sleeps is kind of stupid, especially when the script never comes back to this plot device. Isn’t that the point of the Power Ring?

Green Lantern’s debut on the airfield brings to mind THE ROCKETEER and will be stunning if handled properly.

From there it becomes rushed, and everything you'd expect to happen, does. On a personal note, I am sick and tired of forced-as-hell one and a half minute long “Gosh, things are tough, I want to quit” scenes in superhero movies. Sick of them. Script loses points for going that route for all of one and a half pages.

The Corps VS Legion and then coming to Earth to help Hal stop Hammond is cool.

A few beefs:

-I wish the nature of willpower/fear had been explored a little more.

-Sinestro is too reckless. That's not Sinestro. Whoever wrote this clearly didn't understand, or didn't care, about the core of Sinestro's character. He's not just "some veteran Green Lantern" who half-trained Hal Jordan. He's obsessed with order, and he's obsessed with keeping it. He's not some revenge-driven hothead. He doesn't really deal much in "fear", either.

This script gets a lot right, and it has a lot of potential. I'd put it at or near the same level as the X-MEN movies, but without the same kind of depth. At times, it can be really cheesy, but there are some bits of genuine humor and the potential for decent drama. The potential for action and visual effects is obvious, and almost everyone wants to see Green Lantern realized in live action. There may be a few too many characters here, though, which causes some of them to suffer. Characters like Kilowog and Tomar-Re, become essentially cameos, and comic relief at that. The script could do without Hector Hammond entirely, which would free up a lot of screentime. I really think a story about Sinestro and Hal should be the basis of the first film. None of the characters are particularly well developed because of the script constraints, and that's because the script is a lean 105 pages. It could use another 20, and wouldn't suffer for it on any level. Overall, it's a solid first draft, and one hopes they keep moving forward. Because they're at least on the right track.
 
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