The Official Marc Guggenheim & Script Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Six things that would make "Green Lantern" the perfect script:

1. Invert the final battles. First Hammond, then Legion.
2. Remove the white temples. The Parallax reference can be made in a different way.
3. Slow down Hector Hammond's downfall to villany to explain his motives.
4. Give Killowog and Tomar-Re more time to shine.
5. Expand the movie lenght to give some depht to the explanations.
6. Give Carol Ferris some sleet.

That way, "Green Lantern" will easylly surpass "Iron Man" and other movies.
 
I can see why people are complaining about certain aspects and comparing, for example tom, to transformers but thats what audiences love too see. I only read the first half of it and its exactly what an origin story should be, formulaic yes, but it works so why mess with something that is tried tested and true. Just because a few fanboys think it should try to separate itself doesnt mean its the best move for WB (Think SR). They want to make money above all and the jokes in the script will provide the laughs for the audience. The only thing I can see hampering this movie is the FX because it sure did have a lot (I can see this being quite expensive), there going to have to pull it off in order for it not to become cheesy, that means investing money. I think by not using sinestro as the villain, a sequel, has the potential to be on par with TDK. I can also see them possibly changing legion to atrocitus for cost reasons. Those are my thoughts.
 
OK as of right now who has it and who doesn't? I will send it to you (Yes I have nothing to do).
 
Please PM me the script I Am The Knight.
 
if the script is "transformers-eque", then im going to be very very disappointed.
 
I totally loved Tom in this script. If they get the right actor he won't be annoying. In fact, I can almost guarantee he'll be the audience favorite, as some of the most humorous moments come from Tom. I seriously don't want the inner pain and struggles of Thomas Kalmaku in this movie; he's the best friend and the comic relief and he serves that role well. He doesn't read anywhere near as over the top and spazzy as the guy from Transformers.

Are you kidding me? Not as over the top and spazzy? The dude freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. The dude was sad because his video game aliens don't seem as cool as the real life ones. The dude gets a space ship and his first thought it "HA! I can spend time with my BFF!"

He was there to provide comic relief in a script that had plenty of comedy besides it.

You want Hal to have a friend to talk to? Fine - but make sure he isn't a cartoon character, which is exactly what Tom is at this point.
 
Are you kidding me? Not as over the top and spazzy? The dude freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. The dude was sad because his video game aliens don't seem as cool as the real life ones. The dude gets a space ship and his first thought it "HA! I can spend time with my BFF!"

He was there to provide comic relief in a script that had plenty of comedy besides it.

You want Hal to have a friend to talk to? Fine - but make sure he isn't a cartoon character, which is exactly what Tom is at this point.

You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.
 
I can see why people are complaining about certain aspects and comparing, for example tom, to transformers but thats what audiences love too see.

The audience loved to see IM, Spider-man and TDK, too. They're much better comparisons for a movie like GL then Transfomers.

GL shoud not be a comedy, either.

I only read the first half of it and its exactly what an origin story should be, formulaic yes, but it works so why mess with something that is tried tested and true.

Agreed.

Just because a few fanboys think it should try to separate itself doesnt mean its the best move for WB (Think SR).
It needs more then formula to work, though.

The execution will make or break it. It needs to be ahead of the curve, not behind it.

They want to make money above all and the jokes in the script will provide the laughs for the audience.

Which they can get without turning it into American Pie: Green Lantern edition.

The only thing I can see hampering this movie is the FX because it sure did have a lot (I can see this being quite expensive), there going to have to pull it off in order for it not to become cheesy, that means investing money.

Agreed.

They really should avoid making it cheesy IMO.

I think by not using sinestro as the villain, a sequel, has the potential to be on par with TDK.

They need to make their own Batman Begins first.

Saving Sinestro for a sequel doesn't mean it will end up wih TDK success, either.

I can also see them possibly changing legion to atrocitus for cost reasons. Those are my thoughts.

Agreed.
 
You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

He was a unfunny caricature which had many of the negative aspects the public identifies with geeks. He also was in it for about five minutes and was almost completely useless in all of it.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.

Shouldn't it be Hal the character audiences love the most?
 
You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

No, these days - they don't. Thats the problem with making pop culture references like this - by the time the film is actually released, its completely out of date. It dates the film unnecessarily.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.

But he SHOULDN'T be the character the audience likes the most. Plus I would much rather have a less liked character that acts like a human being over having a cartoon character that we have now in Tom.
 
No, these days - they don't. Thats the problem with making pop culture references like this - by the time the film is actually released, its completely out of date. It dates the film unnecessarily.

But he SHOULDN'T be the character the audience likes the most. Plus I would much rather have a less liked character that acts like a human being over having a cartoon character that we have now in Tom.

Agreed.
 
The audience loved to see IM, Spider-man and TDK, too. They're much better comparisons for a movie like GL then Transfomers.

GL shoud not be a comedy, either.

Personally when I read it I read more Iron Man than I read Transformers though I think the two movies are MUCH SIMILAR than most on this board would like to admit.
 
Why and in which way?

He was purely comic relief. No depth, toxic personality, he sold out his friends at the first opportunity, seemed hostile to everyone, had to bribed to do anything good.

I didn't see him have anything in common with Tom other then being a comedy sidekick minority character.
 
Personally when I read it I read more Iron Man than I read Transformers though I think the two movies are MUCH SIMILAR than most on this board would like to admit.

TF and IM are similar. I'm not denying that.

It's just that IM executed its comedy and concept better, didn't allow its comedy to overwhelm the movie, better character development and had more depth overall.
 
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