X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[BobJM]

I’m hoping subsequent cast announcements will confirm Jackman, Berry, Janssen, and Paquin returning too. Heck, I’ll take Omay Sy too for the full TAS lineup (plus Nightrawler).

 

[BobJM]

An Avengers vs. X-Men incursion film that’s a prelude to Secret Wars sounds awesome; I just hope Feige & the Russos can deliver.

 

[Hand Banana]

Well now.…No X-Men movie ever reached 250 million domestic. Marvels most popular team was never able to make as much as Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy. There is a specific reason for that, and it was FOXs refusal to tap into their true potential.

Bingo.
The X-Men franchise at Fox could have easily been the first 1billon dollar cbmovie. But Fox and producers had no idea what they really had on their hands.
never knew it honestly.

Days of Future Past actually came pretty close and now adjust it for inflation. In fact, several of the movies past that number when adjusted for inflation.

 

[JP]

Days of Future Past actually came pretty close and now adjust it for inflation. In fact, several of the movies past that number when adjusted for inflation.

True, but we're not grading on a curve. LOL!

 

[JP]

Truly can't wait to see Mystique and Nightcrawler.

 

[BobJM]

Lol I hope they scale down the size of Professor X’s chair.

 

[BobJM]

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Truly can't wait to see Mystique and Nightcrawler.

I just hope we get to see this:

Nightcrawler, Magneto, and Mystique are just icing on the cake.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Would love for Cyclops to have his blue and yellow suit, brown bomber jacket and yellow visor. Oh yeah.

 

[BobJM]

Famke and James reunited at an event earlier this month too. She NEEDS to be in this movie lol

 

[JP]

Janssen, Berry and Jackman will be in the next announcement. Maybe Paquin, too.

 

[psylockolussus]

Uh, Kinberg did not direct X3 and X3’s Phoenix was not more faithful comics - even Chris Claremont will tell you that. lol

Also, Deadpool & Wolverine made over a billions at the Box Office. That wouldn’t have happened if the Fox-Men were ruined. Let’s be real.

Kinberg wrote X3. Lol.

 

[SumT]

pray the lord, JP. pray the lord.

Im kinda betting on Ashmore too, since he worked in all the movies Feige was involved too.... and come on... Iceman powers under Marvel Studios budget/style would look really impressive on the big screen.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just hope we get to see this:

Nightcrawler, Magneto, and Mystique is just icing on the cake.

Excited to see the rest in X-Men 90s inspired look.

In hindsight, X-Men Apocalypse and X-Men Dark Phoenix were a colossal waste of time.

Who knew the people behind Avengers 2012, Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame and countless MCU films that outgrossed the FoxVerse films, were gonna bring back X-Men OT's cast one by one and eventually have a lot of them in an Avengers movie!

If Fox knew what they were doing, they should have done X4, X5 and X6 back in the day!

 

[SumT]

I love the young X-Men from the prequels....... but yeah. 100% agreed.
would really love to see their faces once they see the final boxoffice of Doomsday and Secret Wars with their (rejected) X-Men cast in them.

 

[psylockolussus]

Post X3, Fox should have made a new X-Men film every 3 years with some smaller films inbetween them.

I hated how we lost an actual X4/5/6 that could have developed the other characters more and added new faces into the team like Gambit and Psylocke. Instead we got films in favor of Wolverine solos and a X-Men prequel that eventually just replaced the OT cast after DOFP. Kevin Feige frankly don't care about the cast dynamic of James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Nicholas Hoult, Jennifer Lawrence and a bunch of actors that were in Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. The only one who was brought back in the MCU was Evan Peters but it was through a streaming series.

I hope the ot cast truly get a send off they deserve. We should have been in X7 by the time Fox was sold! And clearly the OT cast is always eager to comeback even after some 20 years.

 

[psylockolussus]

This cast announcement, makes me want to revisit x1/2/3/Dofp. I don't think I have seen them since 2019 or 2020!

 

[Hand Banana]

True, but we're not grading on a curve. LOL!

Sure. But my point is that Kevin Feige brought the original cast back partly because they would bring in money. They are worth a billion dollars now due to inflation, as shown by Deadpool & Wolverine.

Kinberg wrote X3. Lol.

So did Matthew Vaughn. Lol

Brett Ratner admitted that he didn’t have enough time to film much of the script due to the rushed production. That is one of the reasons why Vaughn dropped out as director - Fox didn’t give them the time to make the movie he co-wrote.

 

[psylockolussus]

Sure. But my point is that Kevin Feige brought the original cast back partly because they would bring in money. They are worth a billion dollars now due to inflation, as shown by Deadpool & Wolverine.

So did Matthew Vaughn. Lol

Brett Ratner admitted that he didn’t have enough time to film much of the script due to the rushed production. That is one of the reasons why Vaughn dropped out as director - Fox didn’t give them the time to make the movie he co-wrote.

Kinberg both wrote X3 and Dark Phoenix. The fact he was deeply involved with X3 (and the franchise in the 2010s), there should have been some improvement when handling Dark Phoenix for the second time, there's simply no excuse. Dark Phoenix was much worse, and the lowest point for the franchise. 23% in Rotten Tomatoes.

Brett Ratner and Matthew Vaughn didn't have a say in Dark Phoenix 2019 as well, so idk you are dragging those two, as they didn't last very long in the X-Men franchise, unlike Kinberg.

 

[psylockolussus]

An Avengers vs. X-Men incursion film that’s a prelude to Secret Wars sounds awesome; I just hope Feige & the Russos can deliver.

The movie is going to be a mash up of Avengers, F4 and X-Men, the big superhero teams of Marvel. Thunderbolts' inclusion though is quite random. I'd rather have Guardians instead of them.

 

[Hand Banana]

Kinberg both wrote X3 and Dark Phoenix. The fact he was deeply involved with X3 (and the franchise in the 2010s), there should have been some improvement when handling Dark Phoenix for the second time, there's simply no excuse. Dark Phoenix was much worse, and the lowest point for the franchise. 23% in Rotten Tomatoes.

Brett Ratner and Matthew Vaughn didn't have a say in Dark Phoenix 2019 as well, so idk you are dragging those two, as they didn't last very long in the X-Men franchise, unlike Kinberg.

Are you saying that the Phoenix story was a subplot in Dark Phoenix like it was in X3 and that it was ableist towards mentally ill people like in X3? Lol

 

[psylockolussus]

I’m hoping subsequent cast announcements will confirm Jackman, Berry, Janssen, and Paquin returning too. Heck, I’ll take Omay Sy too for the full TAS lineup (plus Nightrawler).

I would like to think they are spreading them out.

Also, if there's a Deadpool & Wolverine 2, Hugh Jackman should definitely sit out for this one. I think if it was just Avengers & X-Men meeting up for the first time, I would say bring them all back. But there's also F4 (who is also new to the MCU), Thunderbolts and other faces who aren't members of the Avengers (Loki) and haven't appeared in a while (Shang-Chi).

 

[psylockolussus]

Are you saying that Phoenix story was a subplot in Dark Phoenix like it was in X3 and that it was ableist towards mentally ill people like X3? Lol

Okay, I don't know where you are going with this.

The point is Kinberg was involved in the script of X3 and Dark Phoenix. Like Brett Ratner, they should have never brought him back to any of these X-Men films in any capacity, after X3.

Sounds like you are a making an excuse for him, when his filmography as a writer just plain sucks.

 

[Hand Banana]

Okay, I don't know where you are going with this.

The point is Kinberg was involved in the script of X3 and Dark Phoenix. Like Brett Ratner, they should have never brought him back to any of these X-Men films in any capacity, after X3.

Sounds like you are a making an excuse for him, when his filmography as a writer just plain sucks.

My point is that the issue with the Phoenix story in X3 was that the saga was reduced into a subplot and its depiction of Jean’s mental health was ableist. That wasn’t the issue with Dark Phoenix, in fact, its depiction of Jean as a mentally ill person was a vast improvement.

I don’t see how that even remotely fits the definition of “excuse”. *rolls eyes*

 

[psylockolussus]

My point is that the issue with the Phoenix story in X3 was that the saga was reduced into a subplot and its depiction of Jean’s mental health was ableist. That wasn’t the issue with Dark Phoenix, in fact, its depiction of Jean as a mentally ill person was a vast improvement.

I don’t see how that even remotely fits the definition of “excuse”. *rolls eyes*

Again, he was involved with both films. No matter how you slice it. He's the common denominator. I wasn't talking about the specific problems of X3 for you to bring those up.

 

[Hand Banana]

Again, he was involved with both films. No matter how you slice it. He's the common denominator. I wasn't talking about the specific problems of X3 for you to bring those up.

Yeah, but you’re acting like he directed X3 - when in reality he was just a co-writer on the film like Matthew Vaughn was. I’ve never anybody say that X3 was Matthew Vaughn’s movie. Lol