X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[ALittlePush]

Or better yet, no more Magneto!

The timeline is an issue for Magneto as his origin is based on a real world event which is currently over 80 years ago so an Earth 616 Magneto would be currently in his 90s for him to be old enough to remember it. They could possibly get around the timeline issue by using an alternate universe version of Magneto where either WW2 wasn't that long ago or a universe where the Nazis won and basically their atrocities continued up to the present day which allows for a younger Magneto whilst still keeping the powerful origin which is essentially what drives the chracter.

They could use an elderly Magneto briefly in order to introduce Polaris and essentially just have her take on the Magneto role (same powerset). They need Xavier to give the X-Men their team name, but without Magneto as his political opposite and former friend, Xavier kind of becomes redundant.

 

[FrankenCastle]

Or... they can make Magneto Palestinian this time around to fit the timeline.

 

[psylockolussus]

Magneto is appearing in Secret Wars (likely) and Doomsday. So there's really no point imo, to adapt him right away (especially as a villain) in the reboot.

 

[FrankenCastle]

Magneto is appearing in Secret Wars (likely) and Doomsday. So there's really no point imo, to adapt him right away (especially as a villain) in the reboot.

They can have him as an ally of circumstance, like in X-Men '97.

 

[Still Wynning]

Ok Kimmel is coming back so hopefully someone at Disney is writing down that caving to fascists costs a lot of money. Maybe this is what was needed to build the case the x-men need to rise to the moment.

Man, I really want this to be the case.

It does kind of feel like things are ever so slightly shifting, especially after what went down yesterday.

 

[Lip]

Sadly, Disney changing because fascism might not be profitable makes a lot of sense for them and for the land of capitalism.

 

[psylockolussus]

They can have him as an ally of circumstance, like in X-Men '97.

I'm just ready for these X-Men movies to carry on without Magneto's presence.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Let's not pretend that the Fox movies were the most politically charged movies in the world lol, when it tackled politics it was mostly surface level. Yet, they released in a very tense climate, the Patriot act and its execesses were the perfect ground for an X-Men story.

Give me an X2/First Class level quality movie, I'll be very satisfied, not a political person by nature.

 

[Sithborg]

I'm just ready for these X-Men movies to carry on without Magneto's presence.

They are already wasting Doom. So ready to waste the character that is better than Doom.

 

[psylockolussus]

They are already wasting Doom. So ready to waste the character that is better than Doom.

Doom is in Doomsday and Secret Wars. So thats not a waste, unless you already saw the movie, which you haven't.

I don't care about Magneto being wasted in the reboot. He already appeared in 8 movies + plus appearing soon in Doomsday and possibly Secret Wars. The X-Men don't need to involve Magneto all the time.

 

[Silvermoth]

I'm just ready for these X-Men movies to carry on without Magneto's presence.

Not a good idea for too long, the mutants are in a lot more trouble without magneto than without professor X. You can’t kumbuya a sentinel to death

 

[psylockolussus]

Not a good idea for too long, the mutants are in a lot more trouble without magneto than without professor X. You can’t kumbuya a sentinel to death

The X-Men lore is too vast for them to struggle without Magneto.

And besides, we are already getting Magneto in the Mcu! So no loss if they don't recast Sir Ian McKellen, who is the definitive Magneto in the movies anyway!

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sidelining Magneto would be a grave mistake. He is one of Marvel's best and most popular villains. You need him in there, and you shouldn't wait like 10 years. Not saying he must be in the 1st movie, but he needs to be there early.

Doom is a topic for elsewhere, but I absolutely agree he is being wasted for the sake of pandering and nostalgia

 

[SumT]

the MCU has been a huge success since its creation and Marvel didnt use the same villain over and over like Fox did with Magneto.

so maybe Fox approach wasnt the smartest choice (as the numbers say).
Marvel and Feige should be smarter than that. The X-Men has +50 years of comics history and plenty of villains, they can use Magneto in some movies, yeah, but every single time? Hell no!
he was done to death at Fox and its one of the reasons the Fox franchise never reached its full potential, because Fox was too obsessed with the same 2 characters. Lame and stupid mind set. The X-Men franchise at Fox ended on embarrasing numbers and really really low point.

Never again.

The X-Men deserve much better.

 

[Sithborg]

Just going to say, the one Thor movie that most people hate has no Loki.

 

[Venom 1988]

I think the thing to keep in mind with Magneto is yes he is a villain but he's also very much a supporting character for the X-Men as well. He has been leader of the X-Men multiple times and in the last 20 years he's worked with them more than against. So it shouldn't be that shocking to expect Marvel to use him again.

 

[Spider-Fan]

the MCU has been a huge success since its creation and Marvel didnt use the same villain over and over like Fox did with Magneto.

so maybe Fox approach wasnt the smartest choice (as the numbers say).
Marvel and Feige should be smarter than that. The X-Men has +50 years of comics history and plenty of villains, they can use Magneto in some movies, yeah, but every single time? Hell no!
he was done to death at Fox and its one of the reasons the Fox franchise never reached its full potential, because Fox was too obsessed with the same 2 characters. Lame and stupid mind set. The X-Men franchise at Fox ended on embarrasing numbers and really really low point.

Never again.

The X-Men deserve much better.

No one is saying Magneto has to be in every project. But it would just be stupid to not use him for an entirely new version of the X-Men. He is their best villain. You need to get him in there are least by movie 2. Going out of your way to not use him just cause Fox used him a lot is stupid IMO. Plus, the MCU has reused a lot of villains. How many movies was Loki in? Does Loki suck? Magneto should be there early

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I'm of the mind that you keep Magneto for the post credit in the first movie and then introduce him in the sequel.

Seriously, to drive the themes home and to really set the tone, the very first MCU X-Men movie should have a human as its antagonist.

Give them an armed militia/Sentinels too.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah I'd like Mags for movie 2, maybe as agreeing and working with Apocalypse (not as a horseman or a henchman, but an equal) since initially the idea of "Only the Strong survive" would appeal to his mutant supremacist tendencies. But then have him develop over the next two movies into the Xavier replacement he's become in the recent comics, a mentor and elder statesman of the mutant nation who's repented for his homicidal ways. So basically give him the Loki/Nebula treatment.

 

[Still Wynning]

Give them an armed militia/Sentinels too.

Friends of Humanity as the human supremacist, fanatical, quasi-religious, militarized, anti-Mutant organization. William Stryker as leader and Senator Kelly, who is initially very anti-Mutant, backing the FoH and arming them with Sentinels to help give them the edge. At the end of the film, Senator Kelly changes his stance on Mutants after being rescued by one of the X-Men after a Sentinel attack (or something that puts him in harms way).

You get your cult and religious leader that sort of sneakily points to and criticizes groups like fundamentalist, ultra-nationalist, Conservative Christian MAGA without explicitly calling them out, you get your politician who is a stand-in for a bunch of people with Conservative, bigoted, Right-Wing views without outright comparing them and you get your cool, large scale action sequences with the X-Men fighting the Sentinels for the general audience.

I think there is a way of adapting them in our current time and climate without completely sacrificing what makes them what they are.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Friends of Humanity as the human supremacist, fanatical, quasi-religious, militarized, anti-Mutant organization. William Stryker as leader and Senator Kelly, who is initially very anti-Mutant, backing the FoH and arming them with Sentinels to help give them the edge. At the end of the film, Senator Kelly changes his stance on Mutants after being rescued by one of the X-Men after a Sentinel attack (or something that puts him in harms way).

You get your cult and religious leader that sort of sneakily points to and criticizes groups like fundamentalist, ultra-nationalist, Conservative Christian MAGA without explicitly calling them out, you get your politician who is a stand-in for a bunch of people with Conservative, bigoted, Right-Wing views without outright comparing them and you get your cool, large scale action sequences with the X-Men fighting the Sentinels for the general audience.

I think there is a way of adapting them in our current time and climate without completely sacrificing what makes them what they are.

Totally love where your head is at my friend. And hell yeah, all of this is SO timely. X-Men is the most timeliest of the superheroes, but we just need creatives who are willing to go there (which unfortunately, I doubt Disney will do).

But my only thing is, I'd have Graydon Creed as the head of the Friends of Humanity and just let him rip with a Proud Boy militia that are armed to the teeth, and also have a big Sentinel fight for the finish. Sort of like the first episode of '97.

I'd save Stryker for a project of his own where he is this bloodthirsty, bigoted Conservative Christian MAGA preacher/cult leader and go from there.

 

[Still Wynning]

Totally love where your head is at my friend. And hell yeah, all of this is SO timely. X-Men is the most timeliest of the superheroes, but we just need creatives who are willing to go there (which unfortunately, I doubt Disney will do).

I hope that the billions of dollars they lost from recent mass Disney+ un-subscriptions set a precedent and sent a clear message to Disney what happens when they kowtow to the Trump administration and that this encourages Feige and Marvel Studios and gives them the cajones to use this as leverage to push back, stand their ground a bit more and draw a line in the sand and say “The X-Men are and have to be this and we’re doing this.”

 

[psylockolussus]

I can't wait to see Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse!

 

[Silvermoth]

I wonder if we’ll see Arakko appear. Gee that would be cool. I love apocalypse’s wife Genesis