X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[Hand Banana]

You are missing most points, I think.

Marvel Studios Fantastic Four film already did more money than ALL Fox Fantastic four movies. and by a good marging. That alone already tells us Marvel Studios X-Men film have the potential to out all Fox X-Men movies too, and if Dofp already made +700 million with bad character representation..... just image what Marvel X-Men can do. This key aspect is what you are missing, I feel.

Fox never showed the X-Men like general audience knew them since the 90s show or the comics. This is key.

Deadpool & Wolverine (Marvel Studios) also made 1.5 billion, unlike any Fox Deadpool movie.

See a patern? Marvel Studios bring something to general audience than Fox didnt and thats why their movies make more money than all the other studios. This is what some fans dont understand well yet.

Because it also featured a crossover with Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine and inflation. It

First Steps also benefited from inflation. That’s the real pattern.

EDIT:

Did the math. With today’s ticket prices/inflation Fantastic Four’s (2005) Box Office numbers would be $564-589 million at least. Slightly higher than First Steps.

 

[Hand Banana]

‘X-Men’ Star Famke Janssen Says Marvel Has ‘Never Ever’ Asked Her to Return as Jean Grey: ‘Every Interview I Do, That Will Come Up’

'X-Men' star Famke Janssen says Marvel has 'never ever' invited her back to play Jean Grey.

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I'm hoping all FoX-Men (well the OG ones) get their one last proper eXit in Secret Wars. X-Men 3 is turning 20 years next May, and Famke never had a full Jean role since then. She was part of the main cast of the Wolverine yet they didn't even take new promotional pics of her, and just used an old X3 picture for her character poster. And that cameo in Dofp was amazing, but a complete waste of potential as they didn't follow it up with a new film set in that timeline.

They apparently won’t. Kevin Feige suggested that they will milk Hugh Jackman as Wolverine post-Secret Wars.

 

[psylockolussus]

I was referring to the ones that aren't Hugh Jackman. Its no news Hugh Jackman won't be done anytime soon, after Deadpool & Wolverine's box office last year.

 

[psylockolussus]

X-Men: Who MCU’s Mutant Saga Will Revolve Around Reportedly Revealed - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

According to a new report, we may have an idea which X-Men characters Marvel's Mutant Saga will mostly revolve around.

www.superherohype.com

The Mutant Saga focusing on Cyclops and the Summers clan (Havok, Cable, Vulcan, Prestige, Corsair, X-Man).

 

[BobJM]

X-Men, X-Factor, Starjammers, and Cable (and/of X-Force) works for me

Throw in a Rogue & Gambit Disney+ series and I’m in

 

[psylockolussus]

Color me surprised if we see Rachel, Nate, Cable, Vulcan and Corsair very early.

 

[BobJM]

Rachel, Nate, and Vulcan— I agree; those characters can stay on the back burner

Starjammers can exist on its own; we don’t need a crossover with Cyclops & the X-Men until later on. Same with Cable—just do an action flick set in the future.

 

[Silvermoth]

Vulcan is kind of fun when he goes full megalomaniacal.

Kind of would rather you know, jubilee gets picked up at the shops while the x-women are being glamazons and they teach her how to blow up sentinels. Not really sure I want to see endless nuclear family stuff like every other franchise ever. I mean even fantastic four did it

 

[Silvermoth]

That said though I’ll eat my words if they give Havok his maddie boywife outfit

 

[MarvelFan]

The MCU is currently not in the position to not use the biggest X characters.

Making the X-Men film without Wolverine is like making an Avengers movie without either Cap or Iron Man, or a Justice League movie without Batman.

yeah It's not a good business idea...especially since Deadpool & Wolverine made 1+ bill

 

[SumT]

X-Men, X-Factor, Starjammers, and Cable (and/of X-Force) works for me

Throw in a Rogue & Gambit Disney+ series and I’m in

Sounds like an actual big X-Men world...... and not what Fox did.

if that Cyclops/Summers family rumor ends being true... sounds really exciting and refreshing. Would be a smart move. Fingers crossed.

 

[BobJM]

Especially if the MCU reset after Secret Wars is the Mutant Saga--they're going to want to differentiate their properties / franchises.

X-Men - core team / adventure film (Scott, Storm, Jean, Wolverine, Beast, etc.)
Starjammers - space adventure / comedy, i.e. the GOTG replacement
Cable - action-driven sci-fi
X-Factor - the black sheep of the Saga; think Thunderbolts* type roster of characters & dynamics (Scott's little brother Alex, Magneto's daughter Polaris, former thief Multiple Man, werewolf Wolfsbane, and enforcer/bouncer Strong Guy)

 

[psylockolussus]

Making the X-Men film without Wolverine is like making an Avengers movie without either Cap or Iron Man, or a Justice League movie without Batman.

yeah It's not a good business idea...especially since Deadpool & Wolverine made 1+ bill

A X-Men film without the Wolverine is only going to disappoint at the box office, if only Disney/Marvel Studios don't know how to market the X-Men properly.

If they could make a movie (Guardians) with a bunch of d listers a hit, they could surely make a X-Men movie a hit with a roster that only includes Cyclops, Psylocke, Rogue, Storm, Jean, Iceman, the Professor and two more people that aren't the Wolverine.

Most people didn't know Deadpool before his first movie came out and that movie didn't need a boost from a major Wolverine role.

 

[BobJM]

It's an interesting point but I don't think it's an apt comparison.

GOTG was a totally unknown property whereas the X-Men are not and there are certain expectations audiences have. Marvel comics can't maintain long runs for X-Men titles/teams without major characters for long so I don't expect the MCU to try that.

There's always opportunity to swap out some characters here & there on the periphery but I wouldn't mess with the core, personally-- Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Jean, & Beast.

FF: First Steps felt, in a lot of ways, like a comic-accurate reboot/remake of ROTSS. I'm not ruling out that an MCU X-Men will feel very similar to the 2000 original but with some more comic-accurate costumes, an additional character or two (and probably replace Rogue as the newcomer with Iceman or Shadowcat), and purple Sentinels to punch-up the human/mutant underlying tension

 

[SumT]

psylockolussus is making serious and spot on points.​

General audience will go to the theatres if a movie look impressive or very interesting/cool and has smart/heavy marketing. Guardians is an example, but Deadpool 1 too. X-Men Apocalypse, having mixed reviews and no Wolverine on all posters and interviews still made more than 500 million with those cheap black costumes and poor trailers (imo)

Some fans are clearly understimating the impact a Marvel Studios epic looking X-Men movie can achieve. Even without Wolverine. If all the other X-Men look 100% comic accurate, the trailers go all out, huge action and the marketing is the biggest marketing of any x-men movie to date.... it will make huge money.
Zero doubts about that. the X-Men have a lot of power, the problem is Fox never knew how to market them and it showed. but if Marvel Studios play their cards right this time around (going all out) it has the potential to be a big hit. 1 billion or not. And time will prove it.
remember my words.

 

[lenz]

I think the online chatter excluding Wolverine would be just as big as the excitement regarding a reboot without him. Disney can't afford to alienate the audience at this point.

 

[squeekness]

X-Men, X-Factor, Starjammers, and Cable (and/of X-Force) works for me

Throw in a Rogue & Gambit Disney+ series and I’m in

Gambit!

 

[Sithborg]

psylockolussus is making serious and spot on points.​

General audience will go to the theatres if a movie look impressive or very interesting/cool and has smart/heavy marketing. Guardians is an example, but Deadpool 1 too. X-Men Apocalypse, having mixed reviews and no Wolverine on all posters and interviews still made more than 500 million with those cheap black costumes and poor trailers (imo)

Some fans are clearly understimating the impact a Marvel Studios epic looking X-Men movie can achieve. Even without Wolverine. If all the other X-Men look 100% comic accurate, the trailers go all out, huge action and the marketing is the biggest marketing of any x-men movie to date.... it will make huge money.
Zero doubts about that. the X-Men have a lot of power, the problem is Fox never knew how to market them and it showed. but if Marvel Studios play their cards right this time around (going all out) it has the potential to be a big hit. 1 billion or not. And time will prove it.
remember my words.

Yeah, and the FF fans thought so to. The conditions for Marvel to hit big are different now.

 

[SumT]

Fantastic Four never had a succesful movie.

X-Men on other hand had a 7 x-men movies run, with Dofp surpassing 700m.

apples and oranges.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yeah, and the FF fans thought so to. The conditions for Marvel to hit big are different now.

You have been undermining the success of the Fantastic Four reboot though, ignoring the fact it became the highest grossing Fantastic 4 movie by a large margin.

Lets see how you react when Marvel Studios' X-Men outgrossed all X-Men movies, in the future.

You already claimed no cbm would gross a billion again, then backtracked when people mentioned a new Spider-Man and the Avengers are coming out next year.

 

[psylockolussus]

It's an interesting point but I don't think it's an apt comparison.

GOTG was a totally unknown property whereas the X-Men are not and there are certain expectations audiences have. Marvel comics can't maintain long runs for X-Men titles/teams without major characters for long so I don't expect the MCU to try that.

There's always opportunity to swap out some characters here & there on the periphery but I wouldn't mess with the core, personally-- Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Jean, & Beast.

FF: First Steps felt, in a lot of ways, like a comic-accurate reboot/remake of ROTSS. I'm not ruling out that an MCU X-Men will feel very similar to the 2000 original but with some more comic-accurate costumes, an additional character or two (and probably replace Rogue as the newcomer with Iceman or Shadowcat), and purple Sentinels to punch-up the human/mutant underlying tension

So which Wolverine are going to you include in the movie? Hugh Jackman or a new actor in the Wolverine role? Because Kevin Feige already said that Hugh Jackman won't be done as the Wolverine anytime soon.

 

[Sithborg]

You have been undermining the success of the Fantastic Four reboot though, ignoring the fact it became the highest grossing Fantastic 4 movie by a large margin.

Lets see how you react when Marvel Studios' X-Men outgrossed all X-Men movies, in the future.

You already claimed no cbm would gross a billion again, then backtracked when people mentioned a new Spider-Man and the Avengers are coming out next year.

Because how much the Fox movies made means nothing to Feige keeping his job. And for everyone touting the draw of the MCU, might I remind everyone that most of their movies have at best, stayed flat with their last one or dropped. Badly.

Was the FF a success for fans, sure. But, but not for Kevin Feige.

 

[psylockolussus]

That said though I’ll eat my words if they give Havok his maddie boywife outfit

I want to see Polaris and Havok get their full due in the movies as members of the X-Men!