X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[psylockolussus]

The Boys shows have budgets around $11-12 million an episode, Which is significantly cheaper than the MCU shows.

The Boys isn't comparable especially it doesn't belong to a franchise that is releasing 1 to 3 movies per year, alongside countless live action shows, animated shows and special presentations.

The people behind The Boys aren't mapping out tv spin offs while also doing blockbuster movies with a budget more or less 200 million every year.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Lets get one good MCU X-Men movie before we start asking for a bunch of spinoffs. More is not always better.

 

[squeekness]

I just want my X-men in whatever form they take.

 

[psylockolussus]

A new X-Men movie, every 2 to 3 years is the way to go imo.

TV shows just have too many limitations even though the runtime is longer. Aside from the visual effects, we aren't gonna see the intricate stunts. Hawkeye the show tried to do a huge set piece, and the whole scene looked like the visual effects were half finished and they couldn't film the scene in actual road.

Story wise, they are going to save the bigger characters and storylines, for the movies. Marvel Studios already said the "movie characters" won't jump to tv shows anymore after Vision Quest. The Punisher is appearing in Brand New Day but it is a tv character first and foremost, who debuted in the Netflix era.

 

[squeekness]

Sucks that Marvel seems to be taking the position that the shows dont matter enough to have any top tier characters in them.

 

[psylockolussus]

Sucks that Marvel seems to be taking the position that the shows dont matter enough to have any top tier characters in them.

I think they overestimated their streaming platform and just went crazy by ordering so many shows that it affected the overall quality of the MCU, and affected the public interest to the brand. I don't think there's that much of an interest for Wonder Man outside of the dedicated fan base. I watch every Mcu show and I don't feel any excitement for that. Its just something to tick off my list.

Ideally, we get these blockbuster movies and there's 1 event TV series that as appealing/good as their best movies that we could watch at home, while the next movie is still months away.

 

[Hand Banana]

The new X-Men cast cannot really get a clean slate if there are still several people from the Fox era staying.

Why not? DC studios has The Batman series, which will be separate from the DCU Batman series.

Let’s get one good MCU X-Men movie before we start asking for a bunch of spinoffs. More is not always better.

And hope it does well enough at the Box Office to warrant a bunch of spinoffs.

 

[psylockolussus]

DC is a mess. I don't know why you would want Marvel Studios to emulate what they are doing with their movies.

Also FoX-Men have been around since 1999, or earlier than that when they were cast. Its not similar to The Batman series (which is taking forever to get a sequel out), in which DCEU was still going on before they decided to reboot the rest, minus characters from James Gunn's SS movie...

 

[Hand Banana]

DC is a mess. I don't know why you would want Marvel Studios to emulate what they are doing with their movies.

Also FoX-Men have been around since 1999, or earlier than that when they were cast. Its not similar to The Batman series (which is taking forever to get a sequel out), in which DCEU was still going on before they decided to reboot the rest, minus characters from James Gunn's SS movie...

The DCU is actually off to a good start with Superman.

 

[psylockolussus]

The DCU is actually off to a good start with Superman.

You want a franchise with over 30 films to emulate DC Studios who has ONLY 1 film and is letting another Dc movie series (with also only 1 film) have nothing to do with them.

That doesn't make sense to me, especially none of those 2 films (The Batman and Superman) have eclipsed what MCU has done. Also who the heck know how long WB would keep up with this Elseworld non-sense alongside "DCU" until its time to hit the restart button again, especially when their company seem to be always up for sale.

 

[Hand Banana]

You want a franchise with over 30 films to emulate DC Studios who has ONLY 1 film and is letting another Dc movie series (with also only 1 film) have nothing to do with them.

That doesn't make sense to me, especially none of those 2 films (The Batman and Superman) have eclipsed what MCU has done. Also who the heck know how long WB would keep up with this Elseworld non-sense alongside "DCU" until its time to hit the restart button again, especially when their company seem to be always up for sale.

Well, the franchise with over over 30 films has declined significantly in popularity. Prime example: One of their recent films is the biggest Box Office flop of all time. It has gotten so bad that good reviews and word of mouth couldn’t save The Thunderbolts from flopping at the Box Office.

The MCU is washed up. So maybe they should take notes from DC studios.

 

[BoredGuy]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

All of this.

 

[psylockolussus]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

Exactly!

 

[Hand Banana]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

It’s been done in television before with Justice League Unlimited and The Batman airing at the same time with no problems. No reason to think why it wouldn’t work in another media.

 

[squeekness]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

Same. I want a new X-men cast in a movie that comes out sooner than 10 years from now, lol.

 

[BoredGuy]

It’s been done in television before with Justice League Unlimited and The Batman airing at the same time with no problems. No reason to think why it wouldn’t work in another media.

I think cartoons are much different from movies
at least, all the "normies" I've talked to about it are like "that's stupid, why isn't Pattinson the 'real' Batman?"
Comic Fans can differentiate, but for general audience members it's confusing and may cannibalize the box office returns

 

[psylockolussus]

Also, in comparison to The Batman. The reboot was released in 2022.

Hugh Jackman's first X-Men movie was back in 2000... its just not the same. If Marvel Studios couldn't commit in giving the X-Men a full slate then they should have already given us a new X-Men film with the ot cast if they aren't being retired after Secret Wars.

Good luck to Batman having 2 different actors headlining their own films. Let see how they don't cannibalize each other. They will!

 

[Sithborg]

The Boys isn't comparable especially it doesn't belong to a franchise that is releasing 1 to 3 movies per year, alongside countless live action shows, animated shows and special presentations.

The people behind The Boys aren't mapping out tv spin offs while also doing blockbuster movies with a budget more or less 200 million every year.

sigh
The point being that you can do a live action super hero show for less than what Marvel is making them for.

A new X-Men movie, every 2 to 3 years is the way to go imo.

TV shows just have too many limitations even though the runtime is longer. Aside from the visual effects, we aren't gonna see the intricate stunts. Hawkeye the show tried to do a huge set piece, and the whole scene looked like the visual effects were half finished and they couldn't film the scene in actual road.

Story wise, they are going to save the bigger characters and storylines, for the movies. Marvel Studios already said the "movie characters" won't jump to tv shows anymore after Vision Quest. The Punisher is appearing in Brand New Day but it is a tv character first and foremost, who debuted in the Netflix era.

There are less limitations to television than you think. Here's the thing, so many other shows are able to do these things. But, Marvel is incapable of doing it. Even in their big movies, their VFX and stunts look like ****. It is at the company level, and TV or movie is not going to fix it.

Sucks that Marvel seems to be taking the position that the shows dont matter enough to have any top tier characters in them.

Top tier characters require top talent, who have rough restrictions on time and inflate the cost.

And frankly, expecting the shows to look and feel like the movies is going to keep the burnout going.

 

[psylockolussus]

MCU Tv shows are also expensive because of the cast and the producers attached to the projects.

So I don't expect Marvel Studios to make wonders with 10 million for a 40 minute episode. When their two hour movies in this decade require at least 200 million to produce.

MCU shows are also not great as a whole, so I wouldn't wish for Mcu to come up with several X-Men spin off shows, which was the point I was trying to make. Just focus on the movies.

 

[Hand Banana]

I think cartoons are much different from movies
at least, all the "normies" I've talked to about it are like "that's stupid, why isn't Pattinson the 'real' Batman?"
Comic Fans can differentiate, but for general audience members it's confusing and may cannibalize the box office returns

Most of the people who watched Justice League Unlimited and The Batman back then weren’t comic fans though. The DCAU introduced Batman to many millennial kids and most never read comics. I was one of them, and I understood that the Bruce Wayne in The Batman was a different Bruce Wayne from the DCAU.

This should be much easier to understand now that the multiverse is a much more mainstream concept now than it was back in the 2000s. Nobody thinks that the three live-action Spider-Men are the same character after Spider-Man: No Way Home.

We also got the MCU Spider-Man films happening at the same time as the Spider-Verse films with zero confusion.

 

[Silvermoth]

Probably it’s not a good idea to expand too quickly. It hasn’t worked out for literally anyone else but marvel a million years ago. Probably best to focus on one good movie first and then slowly expand from there

 

[MarvelFan]

Nahh, not until DC proves they know what they're doing

I still don't know that Supergirl and Clayface are the right next moves for the franchise

And having two different Batmans does seem like a pretty dumb idea IMO
Even Batman might not be able to withstand the audience apathy that comes with over-saturation

I want a fresh start with all new x-men, including Wolverine
If they want to keep Hugh off to the side as "Old Man Logan", maybe that'll work, but even that may be pushing it

Add to that we don't know for sure whether DC Studios and James Gunn will be stick around for the next 3 or 4 years (considering of what we have heard about the potential buying out again).

That's a shame because I really love Superman.

 

[BoredGuy]

Most of the people who watched Justice League Unlimited and The Batman back then weren’t comic fans though. The DCAU introduced Batman to many millennial kids and most never read comics. I was one of them, and I understood that the Bruce Wayne in The Batman was a different Bruce Wayne from the DCAU.

This should be much easier to understand now that the multiverse is a much more mainstream concept now than it was back in the 2000s. Nobody thinks that the three live-action Spider-Men are the same character after Spider-Man: No Way Home.

We also got the MCU Spider-Man films happening at the same time as the Spider-Verse films with zero confusion.

I guess confusion was the wrong word
I don't think people will be confused per se, just exhausted, and say "I'm not paying ridiculous movie ticket prices to see two different Batman movies" so they'll pick the one they think matters

And Spider-man is different when it's a live action movie with Peter versus an animated movie starring Miles. If they made Spider-man 4 with Tobey, Amazing Spider-Man 3 with Garfield, and Brand New day starring Holland all at the same time, they would probably cannibalize each other too.

 

[psylockolussus]

Add to that we don't know for sure whether DC Studios and James Gunn will be stick around for the next 3 or 4 years (considering of what we have heard about the potential buying out again).

That's a shame because I really love Superman.

I don't see it staying as long as the MCU.