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Ok, seeing as the next 4 issues will deal with the One Moment In Time storyline, I figured this could be the thread to discuss it...

Keep it civil...

:yay:
 
Heh. Yeah, civil. It should just be renamed the "Come here and verbally rip Joe Quesada a new bunghole no matter what happens in the story" thread. :oldrazz:

And I say bunghole celebrating the announcement that Mike Judge is working on new episodes of Beavis and Butthead. :woot:

I am looking forward to see what OMIT will offer, however, I still have to read # 637 and get the conclusion of The Grim Hunt. Boo Yah!
 
I have decided that I will not read OMIT, until part 4 is out.

*I saw a Beavis & Butthead shirt today on a customer, it was brand new... can't wait fot the show to come back..."

That way, i'll be dissappointed all in one shot, instead of 4 or 5 weeks of dissappointment...
 
I'm genuinely excited for it. The art look like a 10 and well, the story should reveal some things. I'm staying positive on this one
 
Just read it.

Do I have to use spoilers here, or is it implied?
I'm have pretty mixed thoughts on this storyline just because at the beginning of the issue I was reminded of how big of a mistake OMD was.
MJ whispers to Mephisto that Peter would only go thru with the deal if she told him that she was OK with it, and that in return she wants Mephisto to leave Peter alone from this point onward.
Other than the uneasy feelings of OMD coming back, I kind of enjoyed it. It makes perfect sense in the context of the original story that Peter could change his mind about getting married. The best part is is that he is forced to miss the wedding, regardless of his feelings, because he is out as Spider-Man and gets knocked out - under a fat burglar! (Who I doubt we have seen the last of.)

I also noticed that on the letters page, they credit OMD to JMS and JQ. But didn't JMS request his name be removed?
 
I hope the next three parts are a tad better...

:csad:
 
Wow.

So, Joe Q been listening to the Pretenders lately?

From "Back on the Chain Gang:" "like a pigeon from hell..."

That was the Mephisto solution? Send a pigeon to free a "tubby" stooge of Electro so the night before the wedding he can fall on Spider-Man? So he can't make the wedding?

And that was what MJ whispered?

How about instead she ask that Joe Quesada leave Pete alone for the rest of his days?
 
Looks like Quesada retconned TMOB's name too. :cwink:(Or is "Rumpy Bulge" the alias of that rather rotund Electro henchman whose favorite past-time involves sitting on superheroes on the day of their wedding?)

Jeez, Quesada should not be allowed near a pencil. I can't believe this is the same guy who penciled Guardian Devil a decade ago. Out of practice and way too busy with his EiC duties to give it the attention it deserves, I think.
 
I thought I'd put a couple of cents in here. I think everyone is waiting for someone to say that they like this so they can jump all over him. And I don't want to be THAT guy.

But I think I can say what I did and didn't like about this story (thus far.)

Here's what I disliked:

1) I don't mind an Untold Tales kind of a story. In fact, if done right, that's exactly how I would have looked at this (and kind of what I was hoping for). But I think they would have been better of with re-presenting it with one artist throughout. It feels like they're desperately trying to say, "See, these scenes actually happened, and these new scenes fit right in. See? See how clever?"

2) I have never really liked JQ's art, and I don't quite dig his Pete and MJ. Especially MJ. And Pablo Rivera looked like he was aping an Archie comic. Badly.

3) I think this story should have been done a while ago. Frankly, I'm not seeing anything that couldn't have been done in a couple of flashbacks.

OK, here's what I did manage to like:

1) Okay, I admit it. I laughed my ass off with him missing the wedding because of the pudgy crook. I can't think of something more appropriate with a character like Spidey. Mock away, but I though it was really funny.

2) I (kindof) liked Pete and MJ's present day scenes together. What I mean by that, is this is the scene that I have wanted to see since BND began. Now, MJ seemed completely out of character, but I'll take what I can get.

3) I did like Harry and Flash's "hidden" conversations. That's really more in keeping with their characters than what was shown in those annuals all those years ago.
 
Looks like Quesada retconned TMOB's name too. :cwink:(Or is "Rumpy Bulge" the alias of that rather rotund Electro henchman whose favorite past-time involves sitting on superheroes on the day of their wedding?)

Jeez, Quesada should not be allowed near a pencil. I can't believe this is the same guy who penciled Guardian Devil a decade ago. Out of practice and way too busy with his EiC duties to give it the attention it deserves, I think.

Bad writing is what you get when you have a writer simply out on a mission to arrange things like he/she wants them to be. Instead of, you know, actually have an intersting story to tell.
 
I'm not a fan of the way they ended the marriage (I would have just killed MJ off), but I thought this issue was actually interesting. I think they did a good job of knitting the past and present together--although Quesada has added a few pounds to Pete. This issue also reminded me of why I was so opposed to the marriage--especially to MJ--in the first place. The fat crook thing actually mirrors the stupidity & corniness of the original story. The best emotion dredged up, it seems to me, is Pete thinking about Gwen.
 
just started reading spidey so lets see how this goes..............BAH SCARY RED HEADED LADY

so what have we learnt so far, the wedding is called off because peter gets knocked out during a fight and sleeps through it, really guys this is the best crap, ohh that paker luck. boring excuse hopefully the next part gives us something better



ohh and lest not forget the obligatory gwen is is only one true love **** we have to have shoved down our throats, we get it jo Q you like gwen and MJ is ruined the comic. sorry gwen fans but she is boring and so over used now by every writer that her death has lost all impact and meaning


it was paced decently but nothing spectacular but the art bloody hell. i will put my hand on the bible and say i can not draw for crap but seriously what the hell was up with the proportions for this, the atomic chins are back and it seems MJ hit the junk food and peters hit the crack
 
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All right, I'm not sure what else I can say about this issue that hasn't been already said by others, and with certainly more eloquence than myself, but I figure I might as well add my more in-depth thoughts about part 1 of One Moment in Time anyway:

*First off, the highlight of this issue has to be Paolo Rivera’s illustrations, which not only evoke a sense of nostalgia, but are only wonderfully detailed without being excessively so. On the other hand, Joe Quesada’s art, while beautifully colored, has no uniformity at all. Sometimes MJ is gorgeous and slender, other times she’s homely and dumpy. Sometimes Peter is lean, other times putting on pounds, and at one point looks like a dead ringer for Joe Quesada himself.

*As for the story, a word which I can think of that best describes it is “choppy.” First, it is finally revealed what Mary Jane whispered to Mephisto. All it comes down to is MJ will get Peter to agree to the deal on the condition that Mephisto promises to leave Peter alone “for the rest of his days.” For something which was made out to be such a big deal in One More Day and the promotion of this story, this revelation winds up being anti-climatic at best. What’s more, because this is proceeded by actual dialogue from One More Day itself, it winds up being nonsensical and redundant.

From there, we shift to the present, in which MJ comes over to Peter’s apartment in an effort to try and re-establish their friendship. Not only is this heart-to-heart talk between these two characters long overdue, but this scene could also be interpreted as an admission on Quesada’s (and Marvel’s) part that MJ, even though having been brought back as a supporting character in last year’s 600th issue, has been criminally short-changed up until this point. So, it’s nice to see that this could be a sign of MJ having more involvement in Peter’s life again. Although, the two of them wondering what their lives would have been like if they had gotten married is a bit much, considering that the readers HAVE seen what it was like and Marvel’s official word has been that all the stories, save their marriage, still happened virtually the same anyway.

The rest of the issue is a flashback to the time of Amazing Spider-Man Annual #21 in which the Peter and MJ’s wedding took place. And for two-thirds of this issue, it literally IS the Annual, since Quesada has chosen to cut-and-paste actual pages from that very issue by Jim Shooter, David Michele, and Paul Ryan, along with his “new scenes” penned by himself and illustrated by Rivera. Granted, Quesada does a capable enough job weaving in the new material with the old, despite the sharply contrasting art-styles and dialogue between the two (even though it is still an incredibly lazy way to tell a story, which mostly winds up not being his anyway). However, three of these “new scenes” just serve to underscore what the Annual’s story already was--that both Peter and MJ were having doubts about getting married--and thus comes across as unnecessary and pointless padding.

*That leaves us with the new scenes that actually deal with how Peter and MJ didn’t get married according to the new continuity. Thanks to the intervention of Mephisto in the form of a red pigeon magically opening a cop car (um, okay?), one of Electro’s goons, a guy named Eddie Muerte, escapes. This leads to him going after the cop who arrested him and the cop’s wife, with Spidey forced to save them both. As a result, Spidey (despite his spider-sense giving him fair warning) gets hit in the head by the crook with a cinder-block. As he gives chase, Spidey attempts to save “Eddie” from falling off a building, but because he’s still dizzy from his head injury, he misses snagging the building with his web and falls to the ground. However, he saves “Eddie” by using his own body to break the crook‘s fall. And because he’s unconscious with a fat and equally unconscious felon on top of him for literally hours, Peter never showed up at his wedding, causing the guests, and MJ herself, to think he jilted her at the altar.

Again, just so you understand: Spider-Man missed his wedding because he was knocked unconscious by Electro’s fat slob of a stooge falling on top of him. Are you $%^&ing kidding me!?

To be fair, it makes sense that Peter would have been late to his wedding as a result of something Spider-Man related; furthermore, it’s definitely in keeping with the concept that he is a hard-luck hero. But after almost three years, THIS was the best Quesada and company could come up with? It’s not only uninspired, it’s outright laughable--and not in a good way.

I understand that while some readers would much rather Marvel get as far enough away from One More Day as possible, that story created a lot of lingering and unexplained questions that needed to be addressed. Also, I don’t envy Quesada with having to do the thankless task of attempting to revise Spider-Man’s history in a way which explains how we came to the post-Brand New Day era while at the same time maintaining the integrity of the earlier stories. But based on this first part alone, is shaping up to be a very disappointing and unsatisfying story. Granted, it’s not nearly as terrible as One More Day, but then that’s like saying Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is a better movie than The Last Airbender. At the end of the day, it’s still mediocre. Hopefully, in part two, we won’t have to endure reading reprinted material to pad out the story.

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ohh and lest not forget the obligatory gwen is is only one true love **** we have to have shoved down our throats, we get it jo Q you like gwen and MJ is ruined the comic. sorry gwen fans but she is boring and so over used now by every writer that her death has lost all impact and meaning

You DO realize that every panel that referenced Gwen except for one was directly from the original wedding issue, right?
 
So I guess the fat guy who falls on Spidey to prevent the marriage is a metaphor for Joe Q?

But that's the reason someone cancels their wedding? An accident? I guess they didn't have much of a relationship to begin with.

This is what Marvel's fearless leader comes up with? I'm not laughing. Really. I'm not.
 
Actually, the wedding simply didn't go off on time as planned because Pete was late. We don't know why they decided not to marry yet. MJ is still in her wedding dress at the end. I think the foundation that has been laid is the same that ought to have prevented them from marrying in the first place.

In the Quesada pages, tho, Pete could really use a trip to Jenny Craig. All the stress from running the gauntlet seems to have caused him to snack more. This issue does remind me of all the reasons I disliked the wedding in the first place--especially the marriage to MJ. Still, killing her off would have been a whole lot easier.
 
Actually, the wedding simply didn't go off on time as planned because Pete was late. We don't know why they decided not to marry yet. MJ is still in her wedding dress at the end. I think the foundation that has been laid is the same that ought to have prevented them from marrying in the first place.

In the Quesada pages, tho, Pete could really use a trip to Jenny Craig. All the stress from running the gauntlet seems to have caused him to snack more. This issue does remind me of all the reasons I disliked the wedding in the first place--especially the marriage to MJ. Still, killing her off would have been a whole lot easier.
 
Actually, the wedding simply didn't go off on time as planned because Pete was late. We don't know why they decided not to marry yet. MJ is still in her wedding dress at the end. I think the foundation that has been laid is the same that ought to have prevented them from marrying in the first place.

In the Quesada pages, tho, Pete could really use a trip to Jenny Craig. All the stress from running the gauntlet seems to have caused him to snack more. This issue does remind me of all the reasons I disliked the wedding in the first place--especially the marriage to MJ. Still, killing her off would have been a whole lot easier.

Aloha,
Well first we must ALL be Honest. It dosen't matter what the story reveals, those that didn't like OMD are not going to like OMIT. That's the long and the short of it.No sense acting like you're unbiased and coming in with an open mind.
1-JoeQ draws a terrible Peter Parker. He must have been rushed because his work on OMD was much better.
2-I loved Untold Tales of Spider-Man. This OMIT is a blending of UT of S-M and the present. I thinks it's a great idea and should be explored more within the context of a new UT of S-M.
3-We finally know what MJ whispered in Mephisto's ear. And yes, making a deal with Mephisto was and will always be out of character for Peter UNLESS MJ ( his wife) asked him to do it.Only men in LOVING LONG TERM relationships will be able to understand this.Fanboys who still live in their parents basement will never get this!And it's one of the things that made Peter so old and out of character with the everyman single guy persona he started with.
4-OMIT sets up the REUNITING of Peter and MJ in some form for the future. Not one hater has acknowledge this fact yet in this thread.We wanted Slott on Amazing -we got him-very little fanboy reaction. We wanted MJ back in Peter's life-this arc sets that up-no acknowledgement.:huh:
5-IT's ONLY PART ONE:doh:
Spidey rules
 
3-We finally know what MJ whispered in Mephisto's ear. And yes, making a deal with Mephisto was and will always be out of character for Peter UNLESS MJ ( his wife) asked him to do it.Only men in LOVING LONG TERM relationships will be able to understand this.Fanboys who still live in their parents basement will never get this!And it's one of the things that made Peter so old and out of character with the everyman single guy persona he started with.

WRONG! Nice stereotyping.

It's still wrong. I'm married 19 years, with my wife 24 years. LONG TERM enough for you? That is a lame justification, once again Joe Q demonizing MJ in the whole thing.

5-IT's ONLY PART ONE:doh:

You're right. We have another three issues of this crap fest! :doh:
 
3-We finally know what MJ whispered in Mephisto's ear. And yes, making a deal with Mephisto was and will always be out of character for Peter UNLESS MJ ( his wife) asked him to do it.Only men in LOVING LONG TERM relationships will be able to understand this.Fanboys who still live in their parents basement will never get this!And it's one of the things that made Peter so old and out of character with the everyman single guy persona he started with.

Wow. So, you're saying that being in a long term relationship means that you'd betray everything you've lived by, fought for and believed in if your wife asked you to? That's about the most childish and most "living in your parents basement" worthy statement I've ever read.

No. A MAN in a long term, happy relationship wouldn't go against who he is for the woman he loves. And that woman wouldn't ask him to.

Only a silly, hen-pecked wuss would and he'd only be asked it by a domineering shrew.
 
WRONG! Nice stereotyping.

It's still wrong. I'm married 19 years, with my wife 24 years. LONG TERM enough for you? That is a lame justification, once again Joe Q demonizing MJ in the whole thing.




You're right. We have another three issues of this crap fest! :doh:

Aloha,
See my my writing before #1:cwink:

Spidey rules
 
I can understand on your points about bias. In my case, I was totally against OMD, I even avoided BND, but I ended up folding and read New Ways to Live, both Rhino stories and follow bits of Grim Hunt. I enjoyed those pieces, and evaluated them on their own without regard to what's happened in the recent past. That being said, I looked at this issue, and I think it's ridiculous. I really don't care if it's the first part of a 4 part story; my problem doesn't have to do with matters that could be explained in pt 2-4. Just like the past stories, I looked at this on its own, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Not because I'm a "hater" of some sort. If you liked the story, then good for you dude, I really mean that. In my case though, I found this just a let down and a mistake.
 

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