The Official WONDER WOMAN Discussion Thread

[Varient]

I can't wait for the WW movie. That is, if they don't butcher it....

<----Wistfull thinking. The very nature of a woman being able to toss cars while wearing a boostier and blue star-spangled drawls just begs for butchering.

Let's talk about how Wonder Woman doesn't suck now.

(Meh,.. stepping away from the over-obvious fanboy response.)

new topic?

What's the status on Paradise Island? Still population "one"?

Yes, that convo is bound to skyrocket....

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[Anubis]

Wonder Woman's good again. All is right with the world.

What's the status on Paradise Island? Still population "one"?

Well, after Hypolita,Mary Batson, and the bopsie twins drove Granny Goodness off of the island, the queen was left with all of Grannies furies, and she wanted to take the time to have a talk with them. So, as it stands, it's a hefty population at this point.

 

[phoenixflight]

Villains anyone...Who's on your top 10 list???

 

[Anubis]

OF what? All time or just wonder WOman? CUz she's only really got like four good ones.

 

[BrianWilly]

Ares. Ares makes up for pretty much every one of her not-good ones.

I also love what's been done with Doctor Psycho in recent years.

And I'll read anything with Veronica Cale in it. Seriously anything.

So really, just anyone that Rucka touched.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Villains have always been a problem; Ares, Circe, Cheetah, and Psycho are all great when used properly (although Psycho is in some respects not a really good fit for the types of stories Diana usually is in) (of the JLA Big Seven, only Aquaman and the Martian Manhunter are worse off than her (2 and 0 great rogues, respectively), and they generally can't support series at all as a result).

For all Heinberg's runs flaws (which were legion), he actually did scrape up a fairly decent group of "Who?"s from past comics; from the brief descriptions, there's new stuff to work with there (not that Heinberg actually did, since he's just dropping by for five issues rather than actually devoting significant time to re/building her rogues gallery, so he just threw in a bunch of names to show off their powers once).

On the subject of the upcoming WW DVD from Timm and co., I have a lot of apprehension about that; whatever good moments JLU Diana had, she was an abysmal translation of the comics Diana, and basically every time they employed elements of her comics they fell flat on their faces (excepting Circe; she was hilarious, although I know a lot of WW fans don't like that her archenemy was made into a joke). Even in the JL: New Frontier movie they threw in that utterly bizarre non sequitor where the other Amazon tries to kill Diana.

 

[BrianWilly]

I have to agree, Timm-verse WW only very rarely captured any of the appeal of print WW.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ares. Ares makes up for pretty much every one of her not-good ones.

Too bad Ares seems to be gone and not coming back at this point...

 

[Manic]

You knew Timm didn't quite "get" Wonder Woman when he did a better job with Hawkgirl.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think that's because they made her a warmongering *****. She was essentially Wolverine Woman instead of Wonder Woman.

 

[Anubis]

Eh, not really.

 

[Manic]

Wolverine has more personality than Timm's Wonder Woman. It's like he came up with a shell of an archetype, and never expanded upon it. Hell, he didn't even try. Hawkgirl was added simply to have more than one woman on the team, and she became the most interesting woman on the show. John Stewart became one of the most interesting characters on the show, and he was added just to have a token black guy.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, honestly, the only thing I can really remember clearly about Wonder Woman's time on JL/JLU is the character arc in JLU where she got even more violent and angry before J'onn calmed her down.

 

[Anubis]

I remember her and Batman crushing on each other and that time she beat the asses outta all the chicks on the JLU.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah. I thought the JLA comic did the Batman/Wonder Woman crush angle better.

 

[Varient]

Hmmnn,.. courting Nemesis,.. and the dummy STILL hasn' t gotten the fact that Prince is WW.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, he's no more colossally stupid than Lois Lane, an investigative journalist.

 

[Manic]

Lois Lane: the only woman on Earth unobservant enough to cheat on her boyfriend with her boyfriend.

 

[CaptainCanada]

JLU's Batman/Wonder Woman dynamic was the most interesting stuff they did with the character; probably my favourite episode that they did with her ("Maid of Honour") had a lot of that. They sort of stopped mentioning it later (perhaps noting that since Bruce ends up a lonely old bastard in BB, it wasn't worth doing anything more with it).

Honestly, though, I just don't get how far off-model they got with Diana on that show; they made her origin unrecognizable (no contest? no mission from the gods?), totally remade the Amazons into a bunch of pseudo-Vulcans, and Diana went from the consummate diplomat type in the comics to a bruiser with a hair-trigger temper (punching out a TV rather than listen to someone she disagreed with?).

 

[RockSP]

It was it's own thing, not a literal translation of the comics.

 

[Varient]

Well, he's no more colossally stupid than Lois Lane, an investigative journalist.

Point.

 

[CaptainCanada]

It was it's own thing, not a literal translation of the comics.

Yes, and what they came up with was inferior to the comics in pretty much every respect; they managed faithful adaptations of other characters like Batman and Superman, and the changes they made were true to the core of the character and often improved on ideas in the comics (they produced the best origin of Superman, for my money).

 

[Anubis]

I wasn't all that broken up about their interpretation either way. It was decent. Not as good as it could have been, but decent.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't like the animated Wonder Woman. She was pretty much a *****e.

 

[Anubis]

She kicked ass and stopped up toilets with her Amazonian charm.