The Rising Influence of China upon Hollywood.

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First off, I do not intend for this thread to be xenophobic or anti-Chinese. Rather, in recent news stories I have an increasing number of reports related to Hollywood's relationship with China, and I felt the topic was worth of discussion.

China is of course a rising world power and it's very large population is gaining in purchasing power so it is of no surprise that many companies are doing what they can to enter that market in any way they can.

This can at times be problematic though due to the strict rules the Chinese government enforces when screening western media. Their government regualarly blocks films, tv shows, and music with messages they don't like, even if they show China in only a tangentially negative light, or with messages they don't like. Oddly I've heard they are against ghost stories and in a number of cases time travel.

To ignore these regulations is to potentially lose out on tens of millions of dollars as was the case when the Chinese government blocked The Dark Knight, leading to it becoming one of the most pirated films in history as people turned to illegal means to see the film.

Because of this, many Hollywood studios are indeed bending their projects to fit the demands of the Chinese government.

The most egregious example that comes to mind is the still-shelved "Red Dawn" remake. The remake of the 80's film updated the antagonists from the Soviet Union to China. This of course China issue with and the decision was made to digitally replace all references to China with North Korea. Due to the mess MGM was in this movie still hasn't seen the light of day, but still fairly drastic changes were made to the film to appease China.

Other examples are less dramatic, but recently it was announced that their will be a separate, more China-focused cut of Looper. Originally the film was going to be partially set in Paris but this was changed to Shanghai to appeal to a Chinese investment firm.

One also has to wonder how other Chinese financed films, including Iron Man 3 are being affected.


I have no problem with films being made to fit the tastes of audiences outside of the United States or Europe, but I am very uncomfortable with the growing influence of the Chinese government upon the media and pulp culture worldwide.


What do you think?
 
I guess as long as the film isn't compromised to make it into something completely different, I'm fine with it.
 
It's a bad idea. America's dominance really only exists in its production of media. Compromising films or TV shows or whatever to appease Chinese government officials is a mistake and further cheapens the nation.
 
I'd take their finances and make the movie I want. Tough scales.
 
It remains to be seen if this Chinese influence will really negatively affect Hollywood movies from now on, but I'll be watching Iron Man 3 and I hope the movie will not be hurt by its Chinese financial backers. I know the Mandarin already had to undergo a change with the casting of Kingsley, but it might turn out to be a good thing.
 
No ..it's bogus, the Mandarin is freakin Chinese man...as in "mandarin Chinese"...
 
That's why I didn't love the remake of The Kung-F...I mean Karate Kid, as decent as it was. It was just a visual travelog for China. They totally had to play by China's rules, so they couldn't even lightly touch upon some social or political taboos.

With this kind of micro-managing, that's why I don't particularly like Chinese movies NOW, especially when they took over Hong Kong. I miss Wong Kar Wai's HK movies from the 90's.
 
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Makes sense. It's a commie dictatorship. They censor everything. It's a big market too. Probably will be the biggest market some day. If you want your movie to make money, you don't want to piss off China.

I recall reading somewhere that's why they downplayed the presence of Nazis and the emphasis of the Red Skull's Germaneness in Captain America. No sense in upsetting Germans (big market). Though that's not censorship so much as clever marketing.

It's an interesting topic though.
 
Nobody should bend to China's influence. That would negatively affect the film's quality.
 
I recall reading somewhere that's why they downplayed the presence of Nazis and the emphasis of the Red Skull's Germaneness in Captain America. No sense in upsetting Germans (big market). Though that's not censorship so much as clever marketing.

To be fair, I don't think the Germans mind about that. They hate the nazis as much as anyone. I don't think they would be turned off by a movie just because it had nazis.

I reckon history will show Marvel and Disney were being overly cautious and the movie suffered because of it.

But moving on, I can see the rise of China in Hollywood. I'm not too worried about it yet. The Iron Man thing is definetly odd because it's an entire country rewriting a movie to make sure they come out as heroes but I guess that's not unheard of and it might not be a bad thing.

I actually quite like how movies are starting to show more diversity. Asian American actors are suddenly quite in demand now which is good because talented people should always rise to the top. I just hope it happens for other demographics too.
 
Makes sense. It's a commie dictatorship. They censor everything. It's a big market too. Probably will be the biggest market some day. If you want your movie to make money, you don't want to piss off China.

I recall reading somewhere that's why they downplayed the presence of Nazis and the emphasis of the Red Skull's Germaneness in Captain America. No sense in upsetting Germans (big market). Though that's not censorship so much as clever marketing.

It's an interesting topic though.

As I understand it, it's illegal to sell products with Nazi insignia in Germany, and possibly other European countries. That's why everything was covered in Hydra emblems. It was all merchandising as opposed to marketing.
 
Personally i don't mind china's influence if Hollywood. Hell if they wanna spend money to make flicks , i'm always open for it as long as it's a good movie.
What i do mind is that the movies NEED to protray the chinese in a positive light.
On that note what the hell happened with Reliance Entertainment. Reliance is a huge company from India and if i'm not mistaken in 2010 or 2011 they had sealed a half a billion dollar deal with Spielberg to make movies.
Looking at wiki , there aren't alot of movies they made
 
Maybe they were worried about the movie inspiring a slave revolt in their factories.
 
Maybe they were worried about the movie inspiring a slave revolt in their factories.

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I read the headline, then I had to scroll back up to make sure the article wasn't from The Onion. Seriously, China?
 
i would say it's good for commerce, but bad for the artistic side of it.
it probably won't be detrimental to a movie such as ironman 3. which is essentially just commercial fluff at the end of the day.

but if filmmakers don't want to play by china's rules, then don't try to market or get financing from china then.
 
Hollywood is already a cesspool creatively, China couldn't make it any worse.
 
frankly, i don't care if studios have to cut stuff out just to please the Chinese. just as long as it doesn't affect other countries' versions.
 

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