The Rush Limbaugh Thread

[VampElvis]

Here is where it lost ALL credibility.

Oh you are, like, so right and stuff that you should totally link to the HuffPo as a credible source for anything and whatever.

Gingrich should not apologize - though I do wish the immoral T*&)#@E@ would go away.

Rush should not apologize for the whole "fail" comment. Personally I, I can't believe I'm gonna say this, agree with Rush.

But perhaps not. I'm sure Limabaugh wants him to fail only because he's a Democrat whereas I would like to see him fail in his current tack, but only so he may regroup and move forward in a more conservative direction. With a more conservative approach I'd be much more inclined to root for his success.

Alas, a man can dream.

As for the retort "so goes the President goes the country" I'm inclined to agree but I don't agree the trend lines on the plot are always synchronized. I believe a President could succeed wildly and completely wreck the country (inverse trend line).

But to the point at hand the standard must be applied objectively. If it isn't right now it wasn't right then - though I'm not sure Rush would agree because he's a partisan ass.

 

[SuBe]

Are you drunk?

 

[VampElvis]

Only on independent thought!

 

[SuBe]

Are you SlimDog?

 

[VampElvis]

In no way. Not in name, nor in my 255+ pound corpulence.

 

[SuBe]

Are you Memphis Slim?

 

[VampElvis]

I am not. I just came with something odd for my account name. The only thing representative of me is I am south of Graceland - about 385 miles south.

 

[SuBe]

Ok. Well, glad to have you.

 

[Marx]

Oh you are, like, so right and stuff that you should totally link to the HuffPo as a credible source for anything and whatever.

Gingrich should not apologize - though I do wish the immoral T*&)#@E@ would go away.

Rush should not apologize for the whole "fail" comment. Personally I, I can't believe I'm gonna say this, agree with Rush.

But perhaps not. I'm sure Limabaugh wants him to fail only because he's a Democrat whereas I would like to see him fail in his current tack, but only so he may regroup and move forward in a more conservative direction. With a more conservative approach I'd be much more inclined to root for his success.

Alas, a man can dream.

As for the retort "so goes the President goes the country" I'm inclined to agree but I don't agree the trend lines on the plot are always synchronized. I believe a President could succeed wildly and completely wreck the country (inverse trend line).

But to the point at hand the standard must be applied objectively. If it isn't right now it wasn't right then - though I'm not sure Rush would agree because he's a partisan ass.

You really, like, don't know me at all. I, like, totally post links from many different sites and stuff. K?

 

[Backdrifter]

That point is kind of irrelevant. Most people aren't radio talk show hosts and the voice for a political party or persuasion. Rush, however, is, and it is irresponsible of him to go on National airwaves and use that kind of mean spirited, ignorant rhetoric.

I love the total unashamed bias here. What about democrats in congress? I guess they don't count huh? It's not like they have any influence in the government...

I really don't care if democrats wanted Bush to fail. Seems rather appropriate... if you don't agree with the way someone is going to run the government and you believe the outcome of their policies will harm the country then hoping for failure seems rather appropriate. Heck, I didn't want Bush policies to succeed. They sucked.

This is really about people hating Limbaugh and using anything and everything he says to pin on him as the bad guy. He is easy to hate.

The Obama admin has pretty much admitted that they are trying to make Limbaugh out to be the figurehead of the party so they can trash him, thus further ruin any credibility that the Republicans have with the public. They usd research data that said most Americans do not like Rush Limbaugh. This entire thing is totally systematic. Its amazing watching people get behind such ruthless partisanship like that. Reach across the aisle my foot.

Oh well.

 

[Addendum]

I was never fond of Limbaugh before Obama took office, so it's not like my opinion about him formed overnight.

 

[bell110]

There are major differences between the Republicans want Obama to fail/Democrats wanted Bush to fail comparison. First, most people didn't "want" Bush to fail right out the gate. It took years of continued bad policy for people to have their current opinions of Bush. Obama's has only been in office under two months. I don't remember any Democrat outright saying they wanted Bush to fail. They said Bush's policies were failing. It was Republicans who put the words in the Democrats mouth. And lastly, the Republicans were the one who though "thinking the President is failing = unpatriotic" connection, yet they are now doing it themselves and justifying it. It's complete BS. I want Obama's plan to succeed for, if nothing else, so it can be rubbed in Limbaugh's fat face.

Flashback: 2006 Poll Showed Most Democrats Wanted Bush to Fail

An August 2006 poll conducted by FOX News/Opinion Dynamics showed 51 percent of Democrats did not want Bush to succeed.


Rush Limbaugh took a lot of heat for saying he wants President Obama to fail -- but a lot of Democrats felt the same way about former President George W. Bush during his second term.

An August 2006 poll conducted by FOX News/Opinion Dynamics showed 51 percent of Democrats did not want Bush to succeed. Thirty-four percent of independents also did not want Bush to succeed.

By comparison, 90 percent of Republicans said at the time that they wanted Bush to succeed, and 40 percent of Democrats said the same.
Conservative radio talk show host Limbaugh says he doesn't want the economy to fail -- just Obama's policies. But his comments last month at the Conservative Political Action Conference drew sharp criticism from the White House.

After CPAC, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told CBS' "Face the Nation" that Limbaugh's stance was the "wrong philosophy for America."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fir...hback-poll-showed-democrats-wanted-bush-fail/

Do they have the actual wording of the poll?

 

[The Overlord]

Well, as a Libertarian, I would say that there is no such thing as "Responsible use of the Airwaves". People are left to their own devices to do with what they want. To blame another for your own actions is faulty. If someone pays a videogame and shoots up a school, is it the Videogame developers fault? Or is the the person that pulled the trigger?

Just because this person is popular enough that people tune in to listen to him, doesn't give others the right to blame him for their opinion. It is THEIR opinion that can change. That is the great thing about this country, you have the ability to listen to opinion, or you don't have to.

But here's the thing Rush criticizes "Hollywood Elites" because they make a ton of money and they use their influence to tell people what to do and people like Rush say that's irresponsible. Meanwhile, Rush, makes a tons of money and uses his influence to tell people to do. What's the difference between Rush and these "Hollywood elites" he criticizes?

Let me ask you this, does anything on his show explain why Rush's belief system seems to be based on a series of contradictions and why he won't apply his beliefs to his own life. Why should I respect the opinions of someone who contradicts himself all the time?

 

[SuBe]

But here's the thing Rush criticizes "Hollywood Elites" because they make a ton of money and they use their influence to tell people what to do and people like Rush say that's irresponsible. Meanwhile, Rush, makes a tons of money and uses his influence to tell people to do. What's the difference between Rush and these "Hollywood elites" he criticizes?

Let me ask you this, does anything on his show explain why Rush's belief system seems to be based on a series of contradictions and why he won't apply his beliefs to his own life. Why should I respect the opinions of someone who contradicts himself all the time?

There is a little difference between Rush and the Hollywood Elites. One is he people tune in to him to listen to what his opinion in on certain topics. People watch Actors and Actresses because they want to see them Act. The Hollywood Elites, when they comment on our Country, tear down the country that built them their wealth, they want to force government to control commerce and Corporate Actions. Why does a CEO must have a limit of $500,000 a year when an Actor in Hollywood can make $20 Million a movie. That is the Hypocrisy that Rush talks about.
And Rush's "Contradictions"? Have you listened to him yet? Conservatism is not bashed on "a Series of Contradictions". And, I'm not asking you to respect him. Show me how Conservatism IS Contradictory.

 

[The Overlord]

There is a little difference between Rush and the Hollywood Elites. One is he people tune in to him to listen to what his opinion in on certain topics. People watch Actors and Actresses because they want to see them Act. The Hollywood Elites, when they comment on our Country, tear down the country that built them their wealth, they want to force government to control commerce and Corporate Actions. Why does a CEO must have a limit of $500,000 a year when an Actor in Hollywood can make $20 Million a movie. That is the Hypocrisy that Rush talks about.

So its ok to use your money and influence to spread your views if you are conservative, not if you are a liberal? Gotcha.

So Hollywood actors aren't allowed to comment on current events? How is that not a limit on free speech? They are allowed to express their political views in public, that's free speech is about. What are they also not allowed to comment on the Iraq war, there the government spent billions of tax payer dollars on war that turned out to have been based false pretenses. Because it seemed like Rush and others had no problem taking away other people's tax dollars for that mess. How does that not limit my freedom, having my money spent on a war I don't believe in?

Is it because their commentary is uninformed, how is Rush's commentary informed, he says really stupid things like Dems and Al-Qaeda are ideologically similar. Free speech doesn't mean limit the ability to say stupid things.

What about Michael Moore, Rush has criticized him for using his influence to spread his views and yet people watch his movies to listwen to his views, so how is Rush different from him?

And Rush's "Contradictions"? Have you listened to him yet? Conservatism is not bashed on "a Series of Contradictions". And, I'm not asking you to respect him. Show me how Conservatism IS Contradictory.

For Rush it is, he says he believe in family values but he has being married 3 times. He says he believes personal responsibility, yet when he makes a mistake (the MJF comments, being revealed as a drug user) he tries to weasel of it or backpeddle his comments. So he believes in personal responsibility and family values, just not for himself.

Rush supported big government during much of the Bush years (like warrantless wire taps) and was carrying water for that government. But now he says he supports small government again and that he is "the true voice for conservatism", but how do I know that's not a contradiction? Did he admit he was wrong for supporting Bush's big government policies? How do I know if the GOP don't get back into power and start spending again, he won't blindly support them again? Rush seems to have ditched the GOP because they are unpopular, not because they went against their values, that makes him seem a snake to me.

I mean waht makes Rush so great, so worthy of worship? I haven't heard one good answer to that question.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Rush also called on strict penalties for drug abusers, then used a team of lawyers to get him off light when it was revealed he was a drug abuser.

 

[Bathead]

Rush also called on strict penalties for drug abusers, then used a team of lawyers to get him off light when it was revealed he was a drug abuser.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he not once say that drug addicts should forced to leave the country? If that's true, why is he still here?

 

[SuBe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he not once say that drug addicts should forced to leave the country? If that's true, why is he still here?

Got Proof?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he not once say that drug addicts should forced to leave the country? If that's true, why is he still here?

I'm not sure off hand, perhaps, but one of his positions, insofar as he made it a staple of the show was the advocacy of stricter prison sentences and harsher penalties for drug abusers and addicts. He was very adamantly against cases where the abuser got off with a slap on the wrist. When he was found to have his own drug addiction issues he wanted to play the victim and get off lightly.

 

[Addendum]

Got Proof?

Umm, didja miss the part where he said "correct me if I'm wrong"

 

[The Overlord]

See the problem with Rush is all he does is appeal to the base, he really turns off young people, women and independents,, he doesn't bring new people to the GOP, just more old white guys, they don't need more of those. That's why the Dems are trying to make Rush the face off the GOP, to try and cast the GOP as an old and out of touch party.

That's why some conservatives like David Frum are trying to move the party away from Rush, but seems like some of the ditto heads worship Rush so much, they go nuts on anyone who dares to criticize rush, even if they are trying to help the GOP in process.

 

[The Senator]

Anyone who mocks people with neurological disorders and refers to people of both African and Caucasian descent as "Halfrican Americans" has no credibility with me whatsoever. Rush Limbaugh is an absolute horror of a human being, and his character flaws are only surpassed by the terrible political punditry he produces on a regular basis. He is the Father Coughlin of our time and is destined to be remembered as such.

 

[StorminNorman]

Carville wanted Bush to Fail

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/11/carville-wanted-bush-fail/

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Carville wanted Bush to Fail

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/11/carville-wanted-bush-fail/

You don't get it, do you. For eight years I heard about how even daring to question the judgement, character or policies of a President was unpatriotic because you and your ilk made it an issue. I was told time and again how everyone needed to support the President no matter what you thought of him. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, for some odd, hypocritical, ironic reason it's okay to hope for his complete and utter failure in a time of crisis. Congratulations, not a one of you disappointed me at all. When you were no longer in power you went against every ideal you so proudly touted for every damn day I had to watch that a**tard in office.

 

[StorminNorman]

You don't get it, do you. For eight years I heard about how even daring to question the judgement, character or policies of a President was unpatriotic because you and your ilk made it an issue.

LOL, my ilk. Cute. Dead wrong, but cute.

I was told time and again how everyone needed to support the President no matter what you thought of him. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, for some odd, hypocritical, ironic reason it's okay to hope for his complete and utter failure in a time of crisis.

So hypocrisy from Republicans justifies hypocrisy from Democrats?

Congratulations, not a one of you disappointed me at all. When you were no longer in power you went against every ideal you so proudly touted for every damn day I had to watch that a**tard in office.

And as soon as you got power you went against every ideal you so proudly touted every damn day we had Bush in office. I am afraid, though, that Obama and his gang did manage to disappoint me.