The Sarah Palin Thread (You can see Russia from this thread)

[souvlaki]

I don't believe you have any idea of my expectations of this debate, you certainly have a right to your opinion, as do I.....but don't read something into mine....that isn't there.

I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the general consensus about her performance in the mainstream media. The basic attitude that night was that she did pretty good. She gave a passable performance that night, nothing more, nothing less. And when she couldn't answer the questions, she'd change the subject to energy, or something she knew something about. The only reason as far as I'm concerned a lot of people (not necessarily you) thought she did a good job that night is because their expectations up to that point was that she was going to be a drooling wreck. After the Couric interview, and the Gibson interview expectations were low. She managed to surpass those rather low expectations, good for her. Doesn't mean she was a good choice for Vice President, and certainly doesn't mean she'll be a good candidate for President in four years. All it means is she has good memorization skills.

 

[souvlaki]

Speaking of Palin, surprised no one has mentioned this yet:

“You know, I have -- faith is a very big part of my life. And putting my life in my creator's hands -- this is what I always do. I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is. Even if it's cracked up a little bit, maybe I'll plow right on through that and maybe prematurely plow through it, but don't let me miss an open door. And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Palin_waiting_for_crack_in_the_door.html


She's responding to a question about a 2012 run in case it wasn't obvious.

 

[Darthphere]

So this whole time, she was actually the Anti-Christ.

 

[Mikelus]

Well, her god already showed her the door..... back to Alaska.

 

[jaguarr]

So....she's saying she knows how to pull a plow?

jag

 

[Matt]

She's going to, "plow through it?" Does that mean she accepted the 2 million dollar offer to be in a porn?

 

[jaguarr]

She's going to, "plow through it?" Does that mean she accepted the 2 million dollar offer to be in a porn?

Maybe the sequel to "Who's Nailin' Palin?" will be "Who's Plowin' Palin?".

On another note, this article cracked me up:

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2784

Dear God, please tell Sarah Palin to run for president


By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
Sarah Palin says she's waiting for a sign from God on whether she should run for president in 2012. Dear God, please tell her to do it.
After all, Palin's run for the vice presidency on the ticket with John McCain was an extremely entertaining albeit scary ride for the entire nation.


She became a national celebrity in late August, then spawned thousands of articles, Saturday Night Live skits and, yes, plenty of outrage at her lack of qualifications for the actual job of vice president.


Now that Palin has returned to Alaska as a defeated candidate, however, she apparently believes what she's hearing from large numbers of GOP conservatives -- that she could be a candidate for the presidency in four years.


She said in an interview broadcast Monday:
"I’m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I’m like, don’t let me miss the open door. And if there is an open door in (2012) or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door."


I'm not sure whether God will listen to Palin's request. But if He has a sense of humor, God will open that door for Palin, and America will have another riveting presidential campaign in 2012.

jag

 

[jaguarr]

Haha!

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-odd-lies--4.html

11 Nov 2008 11:50 am
The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin XXI: The Clothes, Ctd.

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Just trying to to make any sense of the Greta van Susteren interview is beyond my cognitive skill-set, but it does confirm what has been clear for two months: Sarah Palin is seriously out there in a connecting to reality kinda way. She cannot actually deny anything factually, so she keeps plowing through in her Bush-style post-modern fashion. Here we go again:

"When I arrived at the convention, there were clothes waiting for me, and clothes being ordered for me and the family, for eight of us. And ever since then, those clothes, knowing that they didn't belong to me ... we boxed them all up, sent them back to the rightful owners, the Republican National Committee, and that's the story on the clothes."

Try and construct some kind of chronology from those sentences and you realize it's useless.

She lives in her own world, doin' some things, sayin' others, leavin' it for the rest of us to sort it all out. She's the kind of person you inch carefully away from if they start talking to you on the bus. And when she is trapped in an obvious, airtight lie, as she has so many times, she simply declares the subject over:

"It just seems like such an irrelevant issue when you consider what is going on in the world today and how a new administration is being ushered in and people being concerned about the direction of the nation and policies that will be adopted. Clothes just seem irrelevant."

It's not true; it's not true; it's not true; it's irrelevant. Kinda like Clinton with a few dozen IQ points shaved off the top.

jag

 

[Prison Mike]

it hurts my head trying to understand what she said.

 

[jaguarr]

it hurts my head trying to understand what she said.

She speaks in sentence fragments. It's really frustrating to listen to and even more frustrating to try and read. I believe it's because she's basically bullsh1tting her way through every single interview and doesn't have a firm intellectual base to speak from.

jag

 

[DACrowe]

Her media interviews etc, were less than informed at times, that's for sure.... but the debate with Biden was fine IMO, he wasn't the greatest in that debate either.

And actually, the fact that people so freely and easily believe anonymous rumors says more about the ignorance of people than it does about her ignorance, IMO. Believing those things that are found in fact, proven and spoken about without hiding behind the word anonymous is far more intelligent of a discussion.

Just a point. An anonymous source is not a rumor. It is just that, an anonymous source. Now, I hate Fox as much as the next person with common sense. But I believe, especially when it comes from scrutinizing a Republican, they have journalistic standards. Which means when they say it is a source high up in the McCain campaign that doesn't want to be named, Fox is telling the truth and believes this to be a reliable source.

Could the source be lying? Yes. But it is not an unfounded rumor like "Obama is a muslim" or "McCain had an illegitimate black child." This could be to discredit Palin, but I will not treat it as horse **** either.

 

[jaguarr]

The McCain Campaign is clearly trying to throw Palin under the bus. There's clearly some bad blood there, for whatever reason.

jag

 

[Carcharodon]

Clearly.

 

[Malice]

I find Palin an intriguing character....don't think she would make a good President, and am frankly a little happy to not have her in the Presidency.

But I agree, she to me, since she is "new," she is not knowing how to fight the group "McCain supporters, that don't want to blame McCain's campaign."

I blame McCain and his campaign, simple as that, it was his/their decision to pick a VP candidate, stop trying to blame someone else for your screwups.

 

[jaguarr]

Clearly.

I just wanted to make sure I was clear about that. Are we clear?

jag

 

[Carcharodon]

I just wanted to make sure I was clear about that. Are we clear?

jag

We're here! We're clear!

 

[Nivek]

Just a point. An anonymous source is not a rumor. It is just that, an anonymous source. Now, I hate Fox as much as the next person with common sense. But I believe, especially when it comes from scrutinizing a Republican, they have journalistic standards. Which means when they say it is a source high up in the McCain campaign that doesn't want to be named, Fox is telling the truth and believes this to be a reliable source.

Could the source be lying? Yes. But it is not an unfounded rumor like "Obama is a muslim" or "McCain had an illegitimate black child." This could be to discredit Palin, but I will not treat it as horse **** either.

Some liberal media sites have already traced this "Fake Source" back around to the Republicans (besides if this was liberal sponsored post election smear, these clowns would be all over it). Of course, they know she lost them the election, but since they are not bright themselves, you still have that Loony 1/3rd of Republicans ready to support Wilma WitchDriver Flintstone to run for President. I mean, she had Katie Couric make her look bad. I mean, come on here. Katie Couric, you cant get any more fluff than that outside of Paula Abdul!

All I got to say is, you think that she is that great, lets keep her talking. I dont even think she can make it politically to the 12th of December, not saying anything about 2012.

 

[danoyse]

I've taken the recent comments about her not knowing Africa is a continent and such with a grain of salt since no one is willing to back up these statements and it's clear the McCain campaign are trying to throw her under the bus.

But I just come back to those interviews. She just had no idea what she was talking about. How do you justify living next to Russia as foreign policy experience? All she had to do was dismiss that as nonsense, but she immediately responded with "It certainly does!" to Katie Couric. And you know it's bad when SNL barely had to change a word in her response about the bailout when they spoofed it.

She clearly doesn't know things that she should know. She had every chance to prove that in those interviews and she didn't do it, and that will always come back to haunt her.

She's also trying to blame everyone but herself as to why they lost last week. It was Bush's policies. It was the media. Her handlers screwed up. Bottom line, she was unprepared and McCain shouldn't have picked her in the first place. People were not confident with her as a possible VP.

Maybe one day she'll admit to that, but she certainly seems to embracing that media she hates so much to complain that people are being mean to her. And I'm tired of listening to her.

 

[Kelly]

I watched the Greta Van Susteran interview with Palin lastnight. Greta did ALOT of digging and what she found was very interesting. The second half is tonight.

 

[sinewave]

I've taken the recent comments about her not knowing Africa is a continent and such with a grain of salt since no one is willing to back up these statements and it's clear the McCain campaign are trying to throw her under the bus.

But I just come back to those interviews. She just had no idea what she was talking about. How do you justify living next to Russia as foreign policy experience? All she had to do was dismiss that as nonsense, but she immediately responded with "It certainly does!" to Katie Couric. And you know it's bad when SNL barely had to change a word in her response about the bailout when they spoofed it.

She clearly doesn't know things that she should know. She had every chance to prove that in those interviews and she didn't do it, and that will always come back to haunt her.

She's also trying to blame everyone but herself as to why they lost last week. It was Bush's policies. It was the media. Her handlers screwed up. Bottom line, she was unprepared and McCain shouldn't have picked her in the first place. People were not confident with her as a possible VP.

Maybe one day she'll admit to that, but she certainly seems to embracing that media she hates so much to complain that people are being mean to her. And I'm tired of listening to her.

also, in the interviews she's given since the election she's claimed that everything that the anonymous sources said were unfair and mean-spirited. this is the same woman who riled up angry mobs at her rallies by accusing obama of "palling around with terrorists" and hiding who he really is, not to mention her cracks about what's "real america" and what isn't, and she's got the gall to complain about someone else's behavior? she's deserves everything she's getting, in my opinion.

 

[The Major]

I blame McCain and his campaign, simple as that, it was his/their decision to pick a VP candidate, stop trying to blame someone else for your screwups.

McCain didn't force her to be his VP. She did that of her own free will.

She accepted that and deserves all the responsibility for her own mistakes in the campaign.

 

[The Major]

Palin wants to be a "white Oprah".

I'd watch that. The unintentional comedy would be hilarious.

TALENT SHOPS COURTING PALIN

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November 9, 2008 --

SARAH Palin won't be vice president, but she won the hearts of talent scouts and literary agents who are scrambling to sign her to multimillion-dollar contracts.

CAA, ICM, William Morris, Paradigm and other agencies "smell books, talk shows and commentary for Fox and CNN" as possibilities for the Alaska governor, West Coast PR man Hal Lifson told us.

"There are several of our imprints who are eager to talk to Governor Palin," Random House spokesman Stuart Applebaum said. "She clearly has a constituency and we know books by conservatively-centered politicos usually sell very, very well."

Public-relations powerhouse Howard Rubenstein added, "She's poised to make a ton of money." But he warned, "She ought to keep an eye on what her goals are for 2012. If she plays a game and looks foolish, if she sounds like she doesn't know what she's talking about - like saying Africa is a country - she may talk herself out of a political job."

Linda Mann, president of Mann Media, which books celebrities and fashionistas for TV, noted, "Her buzz is incredible. She has car-wreck appeal. You're compelled to watch, hoping she'll say the dumbest things possible. I'd propose a show combining her love of fashion and lack of brainpower - 'Project Dumbway.' "

What kind of money can Palin expect? "That's an interesting question because everybody will compare what she gets to the book deal Tina Fey reportedly made - $6 million," said one high-ranking publishing source. "No matter what it is, the betting is she'll sign a deal by the end of the month."

One agency not expected to pursue Palin is Endeavor, for the simple reason that its founder, Ari Emanuel, is a rabid Democrat and brother of Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel, who has been tapped as Barack Obama's chief of staff.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11092008/gossip/pagesix/talent_shops_courting_palin_137849.htm

 

[sinewave]

Palin wants to be a "white Oprah".

I'd watch that. The unintentional comedy would be hilarious.

TALENT SHOPS COURTING PALIN

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November 9, 2008 --

SARAH Palin won't be vice president, but she won the hearts of talent scouts and literary agents who are scrambling to sign her to multimillion-dollar contracts.

CAA, ICM, William Morris, Paradigm and other agencies "smell books, talk shows and commentary for Fox and CNN" as possibilities for the Alaska governor, West Coast PR man Hal Lifson told us.

"There are several of our imprints who are eager to talk to Governor Palin," Random House spokesman Stuart Applebaum said. "She clearly has a constituency and we know books by conservatively-centered politicos usually sell very, very well."

Public-relations powerhouse Howard Rubenstein added, "She's poised to make a ton of money." But he warned, "She ought to keep an eye on what her goals are for 2012. If she plays a game and looks foolish, if she sounds like she doesn't know what she's talking about - like saying Africa is a country - she may talk herself out of a political job."

Linda Mann, president of Mann Media, which books celebrities and fashionistas for TV, noted, "Her buzz is incredible. She has car-wreck appeal. You're compelled to watch, hoping she'll say the dumbest things possible. I'd propose a show combining her love of fashion and lack of brainpower - 'Project Dumbway.' "

What kind of money can Palin expect? "That's an interesting question because everybody will compare what she gets to the book deal Tina Fey reportedly made - $6 million," said one high-ranking publishing source. "No matter what it is, the betting is she'll sign a deal by the end of the month."

One agency not expected to pursue Palin is Endeavor, for the simple reason that its founder, Ari Emanuel, is a rabid Democrat and brother of Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel, who has been tapped as Barack Obama's chief of staff.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11092008/gossip/pagesix/talent_shops_courting_palin_137849.htm

god i hope there's an anna nicole smith-type reality show in her future, with all the stupidity included.

 

[Kelly]

You are actually comparing her to anna nicole smith. Good lord, there is fair criticism, and then there is dumb ass criticism. That's just stupid.

 

[sinewave]

You are actually comparing her to anna nicole smith. Good lord, there is fair criticism, and then there is dumb ass criticism. That's just stupid.

oh get a sense of humor, already.