Horror The Scream Franchise Thread

[Pennywise]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I mean I'm not saying it's what I want myself, just saying it CAN be done. I think at this point after the detour with 5 and 6 and now focusing back on Sidney it makes sense NOT to mess with the few remaining OG characters in any drastic ways.

You say detour, I say the series finally had main characters worth caring about.

 

[Zantera]

You say detour, I say the series finally had main characters worth caring about.

I know 5 and 6 have their fans but they're definitely the 2 weakest entries of the franchise for me. Not to say they are bad or anything though, Scream has been a pretty good franchise and more consistent than most in the genre. I just think the Craven + Williamson combo is what made the franchise. I'm cautiously hopeful for 7 with Williamson back, but I wouldn't say I expect better than 5 & 6 (but probably, hopefully on par with them).

 

[Spider-Fan]

Scream 3 is the weakest. That's just a flat out bad movie. Total garbage.

I liked 5 and 6 a lot. I think 1 and 4 were my favorites, so it's really a race between 2 or 5 for 3rd place. I liked 6, but would consider it the 2nd weakest overall. But I like these movies a lot, so that's not a bad thing per se.

 

[Drizzle]

3 is the worst one by a country mile IMO but compared to the worst entries in other horror series like Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. it's practically good by comparison.

 

[BatLobster]

Scream 3 is goofy, but it's a bit of guilty pleasure for me. I think certain aspects of it actually aged semi-decently post-Weinstein scandal which adds all sorts of weird meta-ness. Randy's trilogy rules tape is still a fantastic scene. I'm curious how Roman will figure into the story of 7. The only solo Ghostface in 6 films.

Would've of course loved to see Williamson's original idea of Stu being the mastermind. But there's still time for that.

 

[Still Wynning]

3 is the worst one by a country mile IMO but compared to the worst entries in other horror series like Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. it's practically good by comparison.

The worst Scream film is better than the best Friday the 13th film. There, I said it.

 

[BatLobster]

The worst Scream film is better than the best Friday the 13th film. There, I said it.

Scream is like pizza to me. Even when it's bad, it's still good.

 

[Drizzle]

The worst Scream film is better than the best Friday the 13th film. There, I said it.

I'd say Scream 3 is more or less on par with the best in that franchise. That one gets real repetitive.

 

[Sithborg]

I know 5 and 6 have their fans but they're definitely the 2 weakest entries of the franchise for me. Not to say they are bad or anything though, Scream has been a pretty good franchise and more consistent than most in the genre. I just think the Craven + Williamson combo is what made the franchise. I'm cautiously hopeful for 7 with Williamson back, but I wouldn't say I expect better than 5 & 6 (but probably, hopefully on par with them).

We will see if the new generation of Scream fans turn up. I strongly suspect they will not.

 

[Still Wynning]

Scream is like pizza to me. Even when it's bad, it's still good.

When I say best, I’m merely talking from a quality standpoint. From an entertainment perspective, though, I agree.

I'd say Scream 3 is more or less on par with the best in that franchise. That one gets real repetitive.

Scream 3 tops just for this scene alone.

 

[Lily Adler]

Gale just needs to be the killer already.

 

[Drizzle]

When I say best, I’m merely talking from a quality standpoint. From an entertainment perspective, though, I agree.

Scream 3 tops just for this scene alone.

I forgot Carrie Fisher was in it!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know 5 and 6 have their fans but they're definitely the 2 weakest entries of the franchise for me. Not to say they are bad or anything though, Scream has been a pretty good franchise and more consistent than most in the genre. I just think the Craven + Williamson combo is what made the franchise. I'm cautiously hopeful for 7 with Williamson back, but I wouldn't say I expect better than 5 & 6 (but probably, hopefully on par with them).

I think the original Scream is a good film. One elevated by it's novelty at the time. After that I enjoy them, but I also don't find them all that good. I even find 5 tedious, as it's too beholden to a formula and characters I do not find all that entertaining compared to say, Final Destination, Child's Play, Alien, Evil Dead, the Conjuring, etc.

But 6? 6 is rather good imo. There is more proper character work for the sisters in those two movies, then the crew from the first ever got and they manage to actually do something interesting with the city and the formula. It's too bad we lost them because it's more important to support genocide.

 

[DyeLorean]

I love the LA/Hollywood flavour of Scream 3. The meta aspect of the Stab franchise within the movie works really well (and in some aspects, sadly, it has aged nicely). I also quite liked the novelty of the voice changer (terribly unrealistic in 2000... now in 2025 is a daily feature). And both the opening and the "haunted mansion" vibe of the ending... what can I say, I love it.

 

[BatLobster]

3 is super nostalgic for me, so there's that too. First DVD I ever owned!

 

[Zantera]

I think the original Scream is a good film. One elevated by it's novelty at the time. After that I enjoy them, but I also don't find them all that good. I even find 5 tedious, as it's too beholden to a formula and characters I do not find all that entertaining compared to say, Final Destination, Child's Play, Alien, Evil Dead, the Conjuring, etc.

But 6? 6 is rather good imo. There is more proper character work for the sisters in those two movies, then the crew from the first ever got and they manage to actually do something interesting with the city and the formula. It's too bad we lost them because it's more important to support genocide.

I was enjoying 6 up until the last act when it really went off the rails for me and dropped hard. Most people put 3 at the bottom and I get it, for me it has grown on me slightly over the years to where I'd put it above 5 and 6 but still clearly below 1, 2 and 4.

As far as the sisters go I don't really care about them that much. They're both fine in the roles and I don't mind their inclusions but the shift in focus from Sidney to them did feel like a detour like I described it earlier. Aside from pushing Sam to become a new ghostface what would you even do if they returned in 7?

 

[Sithborg]

What would you do with Sydney and Gale, who have been the focus of four of these movies?

But fine, gatekeep and push away the next gen of Scream fans for your precious nostalgia.

 

[Zantera]

What would you do with Sydney and Gale, who have been the focus of four of these movies?

But fine, gatekeep and push away the next gen of Scream fans for your precious nostalgia.

You're asking the question everybody always ask when they make a sequel in a franchise like this. It's why "it happened again?!" always comes to mind and the Scream franchise obviously had some fun with that in previous movies. I guess with Sidney they are going the route of having her kids involved with feels like a logical step to take at some point. With Gale I don't really know what you do with her anymore but she's there I guess?

Also I don't know what to say because I don't feel like anything I wrote was about gatekeeping the old movies for nostalgias sake or pushing away new fans. I even said I enjoyed both 5 and 6, but when you rank a consistently enjoyable franchise something still ends up at the bottom.

 

[Lily Adler]

What would you do with Sydney and Gale, who have been the focus of four of these movies?

But fine, gatekeep and push away the next gen of Scream fans for your precious nostalgia.

Kill one of them or their spouses... Wait a minute.

 

[DyeLorean]

There might still be ground to cover with Sidney (having a family herself) but Gale? She's the least interesting character in the whole series.

 

[Zantera]

There might still be ground to cover with Sidney (having a family herself) but Gale? She's the least interesting character in the whole series.

She's definitely the least interesting of the OG-3 in my opinion and with Dewey out she feels even less interesting than before. But I also think in Gale's defense they haven't really found much interesting for her to do. When I think about Kirby coming back in 6, her role there being more of the investigator figuring things out feels like the kind of role Gale should play in the story except they haven't really utilized it as much as they could. I miss Dewey.

 

[The Shape]

Saying Scream 3 is the weakest entry or a bad movie is crazy when Scream 4 exists!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I was enjoying 6 up until the last act when it really went off the rails for me and dropped hard. Most people put 3 at the bottom and I get it, for me it has grown on me slightly over the years to where I'd put it above 5 and 6 but still clearly below 1, 2 and 4.

As far as the sisters go I don't really care about them that much. They're both fine in the roles and I don't mind their inclusions but the shift in focus from Sidney to them did feel like a detour like I described it earlier. Aside from pushing Sam to become a new ghostface what would you even do if they returned in 7?

How does 6 go off the rails?

7 felt setup for what we got in the final act. Actually hunting for the killers. One of the reasons Sidney and her crew sucks, is they're very passive, letting the same formula play out over and over again, and being shocked when it's the most obviously people doing the killings. The exception is hilariously 5, by the far superior creative crew. The last act of 6 rocks hard, because the sisters fight back. Not in some token sense. That is what I would've expected from 7 on a whole film scale. Bascially Sam becomes Van Helsing. I get the vibe this will be the setup for Ready or Not 2.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You're asking the question everybody always ask when they make a sequel in a franchise like this. It's why "it happened again?!" always comes to mind and the Scream franchise obviously had some fun with that in previous movies. I guess with Sidney they are going the route of having her kids involved with feels like a logical step to take at some point. With Gale I don't really know what you do with her anymore but she's there I guess?

Also I don't know what to say because I don't feel like anything I wrote was about gatekeeping the old movies for nostalgias sake or pushing away new fans. I even said I enjoyed both 5 and 6, but when you rank a consistently enjoyable franchise something still ends up at the bottom.

You called it a detour because they didn't revolve around the two worst existing characters in the franchise.