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...would like to have a mature conversation about the following two items:

a) Is it 'wrong' to feel awkward when you're near a mentally ill individual? Do any of you feel awkward?

AND

b) Are your opinions usually derived from logic, reason and impartiality? If not all the time, how often? If never, what can be used to describe what spawns your opinions?

That is all.
 
a) I'm not really sure how to answer this question. What exactly do you define as mentally ill for the purposes of this question?

b) I would say that most of the time they are. Sometimes I think going on intuition is good.
 
a) I always feel awkward because you never know what could transpire. I always assume I'm in danger of getting stabbed in the throat with a pen whenever I'm around a person . So I conspire to do it first in an effort to protect myself.


b) I often have voices in my head carrying out conflicting arguements. I go with whoever is the loudest .
 
:cmaturity:
 
No. My girlfriend works with those who are mentally ill/handicapped and I can honestly say I've never felt weird or awkward around them. Not even when I was first brought around them. I just treat them like regular ass people.
 
a) yes I usually feel awkward around anyone truly mentally ill or mentally handicapped. I know it's wrong, that they are just as human and capable of feeling emotion as I am, but I'm never sure what I should / should not say.

b) Most of my feelings are associated to emotion and attraction, rather than logic.
 
1.) Define 'wrong'.

2.) Opinions are never ever impartial. Ever.
 
'Wrong' like...lying on your taxes.

Change mentally ill to down syndrome.
 
I always laugh around people with down syndrome I can't help it. Their look cracks me up.:o
 
I feel bad for them but i don't get to close if I can help it.
 
a) Im almost certain i am mentally ill so no.


b) Depends on the subject matter
 
a) food

b) sex

Hope that answers your questions.
 
A.) Working in mall security for almost five years I have been exposed to dozens upon dozens of mentally ill/handicapped people. It's always awkward at first because you don't know how to react. Once you get over the initial first meetings you just become comfortable with the fact that people are different.

A good example would be this woman, about in her mid-forties, comes into the mall and is sitting in the children's play area. It's this rubber/foam circular area where kids can jump around and the parents can sit and take a break. This woman, with no kids, keeps grabbing the kids and saying, "Now, Mrs. Gregory is asking you to stop being so wild. We should all just sit in a circle and sing. Lets sing!". The parents were freaked. I get there and she is trying to take this one kid out of the play area and to her car saying, "Now, Mrs. Gregory is going to have to discipline you!". I start talking to her, "Hello, miss, I'm with security. Is this your child?" She stares at me for a good thirty seconds before speaking and says, "The aliens...with the red laser guns are coming...I have to leave!" She lets the kids hand go and starts walking really fast to the exit. So, in my usual curious manner I walk alongside her asking, "What do these aliens look like? What planet are they from?" She answers, "They look JUST LIKE US! They are from two galaxies over from us. The planet is not able to be pronounced in our language! Now, if you'll excuse me...I have to go before they shoot me with the red laser guns!"

She walks out of the exit. I'm figuring she took the bus. No. I see this woman walk to this tiny compact car, I think it was a Geo, and drives away. Though she is driving VERY SLOWLY and ends up going over one of the islands in the lot and her car actually got stuck. So, we had to call the police and I got to palaver with her some more. "Do you think these aliens will attack the mall? I need to know for the safety of the mall patrons". Her eyes were really large, and dilated. She kept swaying her head from side to side like she had a nervous tick. "Oh, no they would never do something like that. They are mainly a very PEACEFUL RACE. They stumbled upon our galaxy about twenty years ago and are fascinated with the way we live. Though a select few are subjected to their red laser guns. THEY REALLY HURT!" She was getting pretty agitated at this point, though she seemed pretty educated when she talked. Thankfully the cops came. Later we found out that she was off her meds and took her daughters car out for a joy ride.

That was the most intense case. Most of the time it was just the average weird guy muttering to himself and just freaking people out. You ask them to leave and they would leave.

B.) I form opinions on all three of those options really. It's more of what environment you were raised in. The values you were taught, etc. Also it's just about your emotions and how your personality is structured. Such a combination of things.
 
a) Is it 'wrong' to feel awkward when you're near a mentally ill individual? Do any of you feel awkward?

No, it isn't wrong to feel anything. Feelings cannot be helped. What is wrong is to allow feelings you know to be wrong to be acted upon and/or change your view on things.... I'm a big sack of pumping organs, with irrational thoughts at every corner. My rational mind battles with them constantly. It's a battle I'll never win. I will die in a battle between what I know and what I feel. It is life.

I probably get the urge to laugh at the mentally ill sometimes, but it's only the same as wanting to laugh at a funeral. The only reason you want to is because you know it's extremely inappropriate, your mind turns against you, bans logic, becomes a terrorist with a dodgy weapon... purely involuntary, but incredibly disconcerting. Sometimes, if I'm sat on a bus or a train, and a dribbler sits next to me with a sandwich bag full of green poo, I get slightly nervous. I flinch when they move or gesture, expecting the next movement to be a slap to my head, like Rain Man with 'Hot water hurt baby HOT WATER'. Another irrational fear of mine, but it's not impossible. I've seen stuff like it before.

b) Are your opinions usually derived from logic, reason and impartiality? If not all the time, how often? If never, what can be used to describe what spawns your opinions?

That is all.

I try my hardest to have logic as my moral compass by default, but I'm a person. An actual person. I am not an egg, sorry to disappoint. However, I am not a machine, and so allow my feelings to collaborate and sometimes take control, if I trust them.
 
my best friend whom i have known since i was 5, had a "live-in" uncle who had a major case of downs syndrome.
I am not the most suttle person on earth, you learn.
look if you feel you offended someone, just try to be more sensitive next time
i bet you all will be forgiven, even if its just you doing the forgiving
 
...would like to have a mature conversation about the following two items:

a) Is it 'wrong' to feel awkward when you're near a mentally ill individual? Do any of you feel awkward?

AND

b) Are your opinions usually derived from logic, reason and impartiality? If not all the time, how often? If never, what can be used to describe what spawns your opinions?

That is all.


A. No, because society has not properly prepared you to react to them in any other way. It would be good for you to try and shake the discomfort, but don't feel like it's your fault that you feel awkward.

B. In my opinion, yes. The answer to this question is, however, completely relative to the individual and their perceptions of logic and reason.
 

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