The Stately Wayne Manor and Wayne Tower Thread

[Invader Joker]

You mean in the novel? Yes, I would say that Alfred's dialogue in there with Bruce about Falcone isn't consistent with the film. In the movie, as in the comics, Falcone is obviously the biggest kingpin in the City and well known as such for a longtime. That is made clear at several points in the movie. It is just not known how deeply he had corrupted City Hall and the Police Department. Why would Thomas go to Falcone for help if he was just a two-bit gangster? Thomas went to him because he was the big fish.

Thomas went to Falcone because even though maybe he wasn't the big fish at the time (which is clear by the way that Gordon acted like Maroni had been the bigger fish and they scored a huge win on getting him) they both had a prior history of business dealings and such, plus their shared relationship of Thomas having saved Falcone's life, and Falcone was still somewhat significant.

 

[metaphysician]

I love that Wayne Manor was turned into a orphanage in this version granted it didn't turn out too well at least according to Riddler but that feels like something the Wayne's would do good intentions selfess actions corrupted once they were dead.

You know, that's an interesting subtext in the movie: while the story is somewhat critical of Batman as a tool of social improvement, it *also* seems to be critical of the "Gotham doesn't need Batman, it just needs someone to spend money making things better" cliche. The Waynes spent literal billions on charity and city improvement, and all it achieved was their murder and the looting and corruption of all their humanitarian efforts. Against a sufficiently severe culture of violence, corruption, and despair, a giant bank account on its own doesn't make you powerful, it just makes you a target.

 

[BMW 224]

You know, that's an interesting subtext in the movie: while the story is somewhat critical of Batman as a tool of social improvement, it *also* seems to be critical of the "Gotham doesn't need Batman, it just needs someone to spend money making things better" cliche. The Waynes spent literal billions on charity and city improvement, and all it achieved was their murder and the looting and corruption of all their humanitarian efforts. Against a sufficiently severe culture of violence, corruption, and despair, a giant bank account on its own doesn't make you powerful, it just
makes you a target.

Yeah I thought that was a very good rebuttal to those claim's.