The Ultimate Superhero Movie Ranking Thread

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There are several blogs on the best and worst superhero movies, so here's an attempt to judge these movies by universal scales. This thread is a work in progress, so please be patient. Willing to change ratings based on feedback, so let her rip! :woot:

THE CATEGORIES:

Based on a 1 (worst) to 10 (best) scale.

#1... CRITIC REVIEWS: We'll use everyone's favorite review conglomerate site -- Rotten Tomatoes -- for this category since it sums up just about every review known to man. Unfortunately, older movies will have less input, but it's the best barometer we can use. If a movie doesn't have enough reviews, this will be purely subjective, but safe to say, I think anyone can call an older, less reviewed film such as the original Captain America a dud.

RT Score 0-10 = 1, 11-20 = 2, 21-30 = 3, 31-40 = 4, 41-50 = 5, 51-60 = 6, 61 -70 = 7, 71-80 = 8, 81-90 = 9, 91+ = 10

#2... PROFIT: Not how well it did in the box office, but how well it did compared to the budget. Was it a $120 million extravaganza that only made $18 million in the theaters? That to me is much more of a failure than a Roger Corman produced $1 million cheese fest that no one expected to be much of a flick anyways. Yes, DVD and merchandising revenues won't be taken into account, they're just too hard to find.

Double box office revenue of the cost = 8
Breaks even = 5
Half box office revenue of the cost = 2
With slight ups and down depending on the exact number.


#3... BOX OFFICE SUCESS: Critics be damned. For whatever reason, the people love it! Maybe it's because the previous film was just that good, but people stood in lines and made sure it was a movie they took the date, wife or family with. Spider-Man 3 or X3 may not be critical successes, but they're what the people wanted. On the other hand, the people let it be known how disappointed they were with Batman & Robin or Superman IV.

Top grossing movie of the year = 10, top 3 of the year = 9, top 5 of the year = 8, top 10 of the year = 7, top 20 = 6, top 30 = 5, top 40 = 4, top 50 = 3, slightly below 50 = 2, nowhere on the box office radar = 1

#4... COMIC BOOK TRANSLATION: So it doesn't have to be word-for-word from the comics, but when Superman is a black guy as once rumored during the making of Superman Returns with Will Smith as Supes, or the Punisher doesn't even wear a skull anywhere on is outfit such as the Dolph Lundren version, you know there's a problem. This category is also subjective in that the more well-known a character, the more people will hate what was altered. Men In Black could have been nothing like the original material, but maybe .00001% of the audience actually knew it.

Subjective ranking depending on how much was used from the source, and how well-known the source is.

#5... ACTING TALENT: Look... you're rarely going to find a 6'4" Greek God who can accurately appear like the character represented in the comics, so sometimes the best route is finding an actor who can bring out the best in the characterization. No one will ever master the Clark Kent to Superman transformation like Chris Reeve, very few can pull off the dark and gritty Batman like Christian Bale, and you'll be hard-pressed to find someone who will bring the same dignity and respect to Magneto such as Ian McKellan. Acting helps!

Subjective ranking.

#6... RESPECT FOR THE IMAGE: No matter how ridiculous a superhero comic might appear, there was once a writer who took the subject matter serious. Recognizing that a realistic, heart-felt approach to the hero is the best direction (such as Richard Donner with the first Superman) is the only approach that ever gives the hero the respect he or she deserves and results in a good movie.

Subjective ranking with cornball flicks near the bottom.

#7... F/X FOR ITS TIME: No matter how valuable the script and acting are, superhero films are always about F/X. You can't portray a realistic superhero vision without plenty of costumes, make-up, explosions, fantastic sets, flying people, or in today's age -- CGI. So how well did it come across in the movie?

Subjective ranking depending on the date of the movie's release.
 
THE MOVIES:

SUPERGIRL (1984)

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CRITIC REVIEWS: 1 (8% at Rotten Tomatoes. When Christopher Reeve, the guy who helmed Superman IV, skips a cameo appearance because the film is that awful, you know something is up.)

PROFIT: 2 (Budget of $35 million, $14 million at the theaters. Made less than half the cost of the movie.)

BOX OFFICE SUCCESS: 2 (Failed to even break the top 50 for 1984.)

COMIC BOOK TRANSLATION: 5 (Hard to say with so many versions of Supergirl these days, but as Wikipedia states, the film did actually try and become the first Supes source to show us the Phantom Zone, as well as the notorious Superman family weakness to magic attacks.

ACTING TALENT: 4 (Faye Dunnaway and Peter O'Toole were in the film carrying on a tradition with Supes films of having stellar supporting talent, but they both didn't bring much to the film, and the stars of Helen Slater along with her love interest Ethan were mediocre at best.)

RESPECT FOR THE IMAGE: 4 (So maybe this is controversial, but Helen Slater did bring a Kryptonian innocence to the character and an adoration for Kal-El. Unfortunately, the movie suffered from much of the cornball antics of the later Supes films diminishing any attempt to give it a legitimate appeal, and while it had the original Jimmy Olson actor Marc McClure, it's failure to land Chris Reeve officially kicked it from the Superman pantheon.)

F/X FOR ITS TIME: 9 (Honestly not much worse than the higher-budget Superman films. Even some superior flying F/X scenes. The F/X certainly did not take away from the movie as much as the terrible script and acting.)

OVERALL SCORE: 3.86
 
IRON MAN (2008)

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CRITIC REVIEWS: 10 (93% at RT. About as high as you can get for a superhero movie.)

PROFIT: 9 (Budget of $140 million, $320 million at U.S. theaters, made more than double the cost and launched Marvel movies into production)

BOX OFFICE SUCCESS: 9 (If not for the other great superhero movie of that year, The Dark Knight, would have been the #1 grossing flick of the year.)

COMIC BOOK TRANSLATION: 9 (Depends on your perspective of Iron Man, certainly coddled the playboy drunk image of Tony Stark that has only been seen recently in Ultimates books but was a big product of the 616 universe before Civil War. Shows his 1960's to 2000's armor upgrades in 2 hours and stays true to his loyal secretary and arch-nemesis. Similar military industrical complex themes as the original character concept and similar shrapnel wounds, heart problems origin. Very well done.)

ACTING TALENT: 7 (Robert Downey Jr. and Terrence Howard are two of the most underrated actors in Hollywood. Brought in legend Jeff Bridges to be the villain, and even cast Gwyneth Paltrow in a side role that many actresses of her stature might not bother with.

RESPECT FOR THE IMAGE: 10 (When it was announced that director Jon Favreau had a meeting with top Marvel writers to get their advice and tips on the movie, you knew you had a production team that actually cared.)

F/X FOR ITS TIME: 9 (Nothing earth-shattering but it all looked extremely realistic, and the CGI armor scenes blended in well.)

OVERALL SCORE: 9.00
 
X-MEN (2000)

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CRITIC REVIEWS: 8 (Barely misses a 9, with an 80% at RT. Very well received film.)

PROFIT: 9 ($75 million budget, $160 million U.S. gross, you can thank X-Men with the revival of superhero flicks, Spider-Man just cemented it.)

BOX OFFICE SUCCESS: 7 (#8 for the year, a smashing success for a comic book franchise that didn't have the same universal appeal as a Superman or Spider-Man)

COMIC BOOK TRANSLATION: 7 (So maybe it wasn't literal, but it did keep with the sacred origins of characters in which origin means everything such as Magneto and Wolverine. It didn't adapt the first issue of X-Men, but honestly, who would with so many popular characters introduced since then? The Brotherhood was a fairly accurate adaptation. Was Blob deleted because of the F/X resources? Felt like a cross between modern X-Men comics with homage to some of the original stories.)

ACTING TALENT: 8 (No one could have pulled off the prestige of Professor X vs. Magneto like Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart did. Names such as Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, Rebecca Romijn, although not all elite actors, certainly gave it the charism and looks it needed... and even smaller roles such as Anna Paquin's Rogue went on to further success.)

RESPECT FOR THE IMAGE: 9 (When your movie makes an inside joke about the costumes and the preference for spandex, you know it got it. It's almost an apology to the fans for adapting the comic in more movie friendly ways. Got the basic profile of all the main characters as well as the eternal human and mutant hate. With so many heroes and villains, this could have been a hollow action fest disaster but it gave as much respect to individual players as possible.)

F/X FOR ITS TIME: 9 (Much like Iron Man, everything looked great, but you know with sequels, the bigger budget will mean more opportunities.)

OVERALL SCORE: 8.14
 
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