The Worst Big Budget Hollywood Blockbusters

[zeroapoc]

Dune

 

[A Necessary Evil]

That Nick Swardson Porn Movie. Nobody liked it.

 

[Gianakin_]

This thread has turned into a "list flops you didn't like", hasn't it?

 

[zeroapoc]

Looks like it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Is anyone just ever going to admit that Transformers is just kind of a lame ass franchise that rather than just having a lot of tie in merchandise but is itself a tie in for the toys anyways?

I don't care for the franchise out of some morphing toys I had as a kid
In media, all my exposure to the franchise is the animated film and 3 live action ones
Can't judge the franchise as a whole

 

[StarLord]

That Nick Swardson Porn Movie. Nobody liked it.

That was a 'Big Budget Hollywood Blockbuster'?

 

[bullets]

I've got a few questions for those of you who hate the Transformers movies.

You see the first movie and you hated it, why would you bother seeing the second? I'm guessing you could've been hoping that it'd be better. That didn't happen and you hated it, so why did you bother seeing the third? By that point, you would've know what you were getting, right?

For those of you who hate Bay movies in general, why did you bother seeing any of them?

For the record, I'm not attacking anyone. I just want to understand.

I enjoyed the first Transformers film. Some of the jokes were stupid , but they didn't take over the film . Then as the series progressed it got out of control. Some of the stuff in Transformers 2 didn't even make sense. The story was a letdown and I hated Mud & Flap. After the film came out people were apologizing in interviews. Bay promised Mud and Flap had been scrapped. So there was hope part three would be a huge improvement. There was great action in the film , but we had to suffer through some of the worst comedy committed to screen. I clapped when Ken Joeng was killed off. He damn near ruined the film for me.

 

[DyeLorean]

John Carter.
What a mess.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Green Lantern

 

[Thundarr]

Star Wars Episode I: The Franchise Menace

Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clowns

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The S#!t

(If I wanted to sit through 9 hours of obvious computer graphics, I'd go over to my friends place and watch him play Sid Meier's Pirates on his PC)

 

[Thundarr]

Some more I almost forgot about . . .

Rob Zombie's Halloween & Halloween 2

Michael Bay's Friday The 13th

Michael Bay's A Nightmare On Elm Street

Michael Bay's Texas Chainsaw Massacre

(Are you beginning to see a pattern here?)

Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines

Conan The Barbarian (2011)

Dungeons & Dragons (2000)

It's late. That's all I can think of at the moment. I'll come up with more later.

 

[Thundarr]

Terminator 2:
They ruined Sarah Connors character. Ruined it. This is not the same woman who told Kyle Reese "Get up soldier!" I like the other characters. But the second film is such a departure, or a jumping of the shark if you will for me, that I can't enjoy it. Women are not this weak-willed, especially not one like Sarah from T1. Ripley would run circles around her any day of the fricking week. I like the first Terminator well enough. It's not one of my favorites, but I'll watch it and love it. I'll rant and rave and rail against Terminator 2 any day.

I've heard this same argument from other people before, such as my sister when we went to see the movie when it first came out, and I just don't get your reasoning. Do you really expect Sarah Connor to be the same innocent, naïve, damsel in distress that she was in the first movie? Don't you think that the burden of her knowledge of what was to come would have weighed heavily on her psyche? The stress of living off the grid as much as possible? She might have been the same character, but there's no way in Hell she would be the same person, if you understand my meaning. I think the writers did an excellent job on her character. She's no longer just a waitress at a diner trying to get by in life. She's now responsible for the salvation of the entire human race. That's a LOT of pressure for ANYBODY to handle. So I have no problem with the writers deciding that she doesn't handle it all that well.

MY big problem with T2 wasn't with Sarah Connor, it was with the T-1000. According to the laws of time travel laid down in the first movie, the T-1000 should never have been able to travel back in time. Only living tissue can be sent back. That's why time travelers show up in the present naked. The only reason the T-800 can travel back in time is because he is a metal endoskeleton surrounded by living flesh and blood. He is able to fool the time machine's sensors into thinking he was a living person. The T-1000 has no living flesh and blood, thus could not similarly fool the time machine's sensors. A 3 minute scene explaining how the T-1000 managed to get around that little roadblock would have improved the movie in my eyes tenfold. I understand that in the novelization it was written that he traveled back in time in a coccoon of living flesh & blood. Maybe they should have had a scen where John asks the T-800 how a terminator made out of 100% liquid metal could travel through time when nothing unliving is able to, and Arnie tells him.

Anyway, despite that one minor complaint, I still love the movie.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Rob Zombie's first Hallowe'en movie is better than the original as a serious movie
The original Hallowe'en, like all slasher movies of the era, is hilariously bad

I've heard this same argument from other people before, such as my sister when we went to see the movie when it first came out, and I just don't get your reasoning. Do you really expect Sarah Connor to be the same innocent, naïve, damsel in distress that she was in the first movie? Don't you think that the burden of her knowledge of what was to come would have weighed heavily on her psyche? The stress of living off the grid as much as possible? She might have been the same character, but there's no way in Hell she would be the same person, if you understand my meaning. I think the writers did an excellent job on her character. She's no longer just a waitress at a diner trying to get by in life. She's now responsible for the salvation of the entire human race. That's a LOT of pressure for ANYBODY to handle. So I have no problem with the writers deciding that she doesn't handle it all that well.

Not about innocence or naiveness, he doesn't like how they made the woman who told Reese to stand up to how they got her drugged and controlled in the second movie

I hate psyche

 

[Gianakin_]

Uh-oh, prepare to get flamed.

 

[StarLord]

Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines

Yep.

I watched this last night after watching T1 and T2 this past week.

It's BAD. I mean right from the start. Connor's boring monologue and then the terminator who arrives in a womens clothes store, but leaves there and walks down the street naked...

Even the time travel for the terminators looks worse than in 1 and 2.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Uh-oh, prepare to get flamed.

Pop corn is ready

 

[Gianakin_]

I'll be there, I won't miss it for the world.

 

[Duke]

Rob Zombie's first Hallowe'en movie is better than the original as a serious movie
The original Hallowe'en, like all slasher movies of the era, is hilariously bad
Not about innocence or naiveness, he doesn't like how they made the woman who told Reese to stand up to how they got her drugged and controlled in the second movie

I hate psyche

Seriously, no. It's because of the original Halloween's huge success & (small budget) that Hollywood decided to copy it & produce other slasher movies like the Friday the 13th series, Nightmare on Elm Street, among countless others. I just have to say the original Halloween had a big impact on the movie cultural & is faaar superior than Rob Zombie's version & trumps it because the original doesn't rely on a lot of sex scenes, over the top, exceesive, violence, better acting, & of course better script.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Seriously, no. It's because of the original Halloween's huge success & (small budget) that Hollywood decided to copy it & produce other slasher movies like the Friday the 13th series, Nightmare on Elm Street, among countless others.

Isn't Alfred Hitchcock more deserving of the credit with one of his movies?

I just have to say the original Halloween had a big impact on the movie cultural & is faaar superior than Rob Zombie's version & trumps it because the original doesn't rely on a lot of sex scenes, over the top, exceesive, violence, better acting, & of course better script.

I don't see difference in quality of acting, that part just went over my head
I know there is better delivery of lines, it doesn't make for overall better acting
And the original Hallowe'en has over the top supernatural mindless killer with excessive strength and nothing else

 

[Duke]

Didn't Alfred Hitchcock more deserving of the credit with one of his movies?
I don't see difference in quality of acting, that part just went over my head
I know there is better delivery of lines, it doesn't make for overall better acting
And the original Hallowe'en has over the top supernatural mindless killer with excessive strength and nothing else

I credit Hitchcock for starting that slasher genre with his movie Psycho. With the Halloween remake I said it was over the top in it's use of excessive sex scenes & blood splattering, goriness. In the original Halloween the Boogeyman does kill but it's not as graphic as the new one.

 

[Thundarr]

Rob Zombie's first Hallowe'en movie is better than the original as a serious movie
The original Hallowe'en, like all slasher movies of the era, is hilariously bad

You have GOT to be joking!

Not about innocence or naiveness, he doesn't like how they made the woman who told Reese to stand up to how they got her drugged and controlled in the second movie

I hate psyche

So what? You think that the authorities wouldn't have thought she was ape s#!t crazy and institutionalize her? What do you think happens to those that are deamed "criminally insane"? Of course she's going to be drugged up and controlled! And if you had paid attention to the movie, once John & Arnie broke her out of the nut house, she was once again the strong warrior woman Reese described in the first movie. Kinda tough to be that when the authorities are pumping your ass full of tranquilizers.

 

[Thundarr]

Isn't Alfred Hitchcock more deserving of the credit with one of his movies?
I don't see difference in quality of acting, that part just went over my head
I know there is better delivery of lines, it doesn't make for overall better acting
And the original Hallowe'en has over the top supernatural mindless killer with excessive strength and nothing else

As a former drama student, I can confidently say that better delivery of lines is pretty much the definition of better acting.

And the supernatural element of Halloween didn't start getting introduced until Part 4 (if you look closely you'll see Michael Myers bears the Mark Of Thorn in at least one scene in Parts 4, 5, and 6). Originally he was just a psychopath in a mask.

 

[Thundarr]

I credit Hitchcock for starting that slasher genre with his movie Psycho. With the Halloween remake I said it was over the top in it's use of excessive sex scenes & blood splattering, goriness. In the original Halloween the Boogeyman does kill but it's not as graphic as the new one.

Exactly! John Carpenter makes horror movies to try and frighten people. Rob Zombie makes horror movies to try and gross people out. There's a big difference.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You have GOT to be joking!

My unpopular opinion, I shared it in the remake thread, and mentioned an episode of Angel there

So what? You think that the authorities wouldn't have thought she was ape s#!t crazy and institutionalize her? What do you think happens to those that are deamed "criminally insane"? Of course she's going to be drugged up and controlled! And if you had paid attention to the movie, once John & Arnie broke her out of the nut house, she was once again the strong warrior woman Reese described in the first movie. Kinda tough to be that when the authorities are pumping your ass full of tranquilizers.

It's not my view, my understanding of Fawful's view, which -like you- I disagree with

 

[Thundarr]

My unpopular opinion, I shared it in the remake thread, and mentioned an episode of Angel there

I still don't understand how anyone can like that redneck piece of celuloid trash Rob Zombie produced. There was absolutely zero suspense, all of the main characters were rather unlikeable, and any mystery behind the killer was totally obliterated. The man basically took a huge crap all over the very movie he claims to be his all time favourite film.

It's not my view, my understanding of Fawful's view, which -like you- I disagree with

Well at least you have SOME good sense.