The Wrestling Thread is not your decision you stupid Americans - - - Part 197

[SuperBatman]

I think he was just laughing since Roman pretty much did the same thing to Daniel a few weeks ago to be honest.

 

[Pink Ranger]

With every idiotic decision that was made last night on Raw I believe the worst decision was having Roman Reigns smile like an imbecile when Bryan tagged himself in.

Is Reigns not supposed to be an ass kicker who takes crap from nobody? Then why in the hell is he smiling!? He should be pissed right the hell off that Bryan took the win from him.

Reigns and management, I feel, do not have a grasp of who the Roman character is. What is his gimmick? They don't know and that (among other things) is halting his ascension to the top.

I am extremely reluctant to pile onto the Reigns hatewagon, but I agree with some of this. They need to do some things to make this character work, and he can't be smirking all the time; he's not good enough on the mike yet for that. Stone Cold didn't smile all the time, neither did Savage, Sting, Warrior or Hogan, and those are the kind of guys they need to pattern Reigns after if they want him to be the new alpha hero.

They need to fix is by giving Reigns a serious beatdown, so he comes back vengeful and enraged. I'm not talking about a couple of chairshots, I am talking an evil beatdown here. Pontius Pilate meets Keyser Soyze. Like attacking Reigns' family (i.e. The Usos and Naomi, or any members of the Anoia family who show up on Raw). Like the Crucifixion of Austin kind of stuff. That will give the Reigns character a primal motivation to come back like a ****ing demonic beast and get more of the crowd behind him.

The problem is who does it; Lesnar and Heyman are just two men right now. Maybe the Authority needs to get involved; if Rollins is occupied with Orton, Kane and Show still need something to do. An alliance of mutual interest between Heyman and Stephanie seems to be in order.

 

[Slushy]

Today is the one year anniversary of The WWE Network. I signed up on day one. What have been your favorite things about it so far and what do you look forward to?

Pros: Watching PPVs live for less than what In Your House use to cost, RAW in 1996, Documentaries I had no interesting in buying on DVD, NXT, and Legends House.

Looking forward: WWF Superstars, Velocity, and more original content shows.

Maybe the Authority needs to get involved

If Reigns wins the WWE title, I can see him defending it against Helmsley at SummerSlam.

 

[Wheels]

Seth Rollins vs Randy Orton is THE match at WrestleMania as far as I'm concerned. It's guaranteed to get promotion and could steal the show if given time. I still can't believe a guy as popular as Bryan is going to be like 6th from the top pretty much.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Seth Rollins vs Randy Orton is THE match at WrestleMania as faf as I'm concerned. It's guaranteed to get promotion and could steal the show if given time. I still can't believe a guy as popular as Bryan is going to be like 6th from the top pretty much.

Exactly. It's the only match I give a **** about right now and it's probably going to stay that way until we get to the actual show.

 

[OctaviusINC]

- As of this week, WWE’s current plan is to keep The Undertaker off TV until WrestleMania 31. Unless something changes, Taker will not be appearing on RAW or SmackDown to help build the storyline with Bray Wyatt.

The idea behind keeping Taker off TV is that we don’t know where he’s been, we don’t know what he looks like or what his condition is so it will be a bigger surprise when he does appear at WrestleMania.

(Source: PWInsider)

http://www.pwmania.com/wwe-reportedly-keeping-the-undertaker-off-tv-until-wrestlemania-31

It's weird. After watching Wyatt's promo last night I thought it'd be kind of different if he didn't show up until Mania like he did when he returned at 20 with Kane. I wouldn't mind this.

But to me this confirms that Wyatt will lose. To have Undertaker "disappear" after the biggest loss of his career, topple on dramatic buildup, and have him return in all his glory to have him lose again this time to Wyatt would be ridiculous and make Taker look stupid.

 

[punishermax]

I think he was just laughing since Roman pretty much did the same thing to Daniel a few weeks ago to be honest.

I understand why he was smiling, but in the context of his gimmick, a smile shouldn't be in his repertoire yet or at all.

They really don't have a pulse on just who his character is yet. Is he a jokester? Is he a badass? Some have the charisma to pull off both, Reigns does not have that yet.

As for the hate spewed towards Reigns I think many actually like the guy or at least want to. The issue is just clear as day, he is someone they want to give the Cena push to but he clearly isn't ready yet to be pushed into that position on the mic or in the ring.

His injury last fall really derailed a ton of his momentum, but I am not sure he would have sustained it anyway given the way Vince was writing for him before the injury. Remember the poisoned coffee bit.

 

[punishermax]

Exactly. It's the only match I give a **** about right now and it's probably going to stay that way until we get to the actual show.

Even if Bryan/Ziggler gets the greenlight the Orton/Rollins match is still the one to look forward to because of the build to it. All Ziggler and Bryan have right now is mutual respect on Twitter.

 

[Docker2.0]

Even if Bryan/Ziggler gets the greenlight the Orton/Rollins match is still the one to look forward to because of the build to it. All Ziggler and Bryan have right now is mutual respect on Twitter.

I don't know man. Ziggler may have a little of a heel turn coming. He got into it a little with Ambrose and if he gets into with Bryan, what's not to stop the full heel turn. Though I doubt it happens, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[punishermax]

I don't know man. Ziggler may have a little of a heel turn coming. He got into it a little with Ambrose and if he gets into with Bryan, what's not to stop the full heel turn. Though I doubt it happens, I wouldn't be surprised.

Oh it would absolutely have potential to be amazing. With the current build or non-build to that match I am not sure if it would play out as well as the Orton/Rollins match could.

 

[Slushy]

- As of this week, WWE’s current plan is to keep The Undertaker off TV until WrestleMania 31. Unless something changes, Taker will not be appearing on RAW or SmackDown to help build the storyline with Bray Wyatt.

The dirt sheets also reported that Randy Orton wouldn't be brought back until after Wrestlemania.

 

[runawayboulder]

Seth Rollins vs Randy Orton is THE match at WrestleMania as far as I'm concerned. It's guaranteed to get promotion and could steal the show if given time. I still can't believe a guy as popular as Bryan is going to be like 6th from the top pretty much.

Rollins and Orton I agree with. If they decide to do a IC triple threat with Ambrose/Ziggler/BNB I'd be into that as well. I'm really digging the Uso's vs Kidd/Cesaro. I'm looking forward to that especially if it's a mixed 6 person tag with the ladies involved. Also anything involving Paige.

I could care less about Cena/Rusev, a potential Bryan/Sheamus because Bryan is better than that or Lesnar/Reigns. I'll probably suffer through Lesnar/Reigns just to see if A) Lesnar wins because he resigned or B) Rollins cashes in (which according to redditor MetsFan4Ever won't be until June for whatever reason).

 

[The Apocalypse]

Damn, Cody engaged IDGAF mode with this promo

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Why don't they put this on Raw instead of the 45 minutes worth of recaps and network plugs?

 

[runawayboulder]

Why don't they put this on Raw instead of the 45 minutes worth of recaps and network plugs?

Because....

Spoiler

 

[Bat Brain]

Why don't they put this on Raw instead of the 45 minutes worth of recaps and network plugs?

Here's some recent examples of Ambrose's stuff that should be on TV :

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I especially recommend the first one.

 

[runawayboulder]

I just listened to a podcast Paige was on last week promoting Fast Lane. She basically echoed the statements made by the Bellas at Wizard World about the women don't get as much time as the men and it makes it impossible to tell their story in the ring.

Can anyone honestly say that the WWE has been as badly scrutinized by it's fanbase as it is currently? Probably not since the early days of RAW when Hogan was gone and practically every wrestler had a gimmick of a blue collar worker (garbage man, baseball player, ect). If there was a legitimate wrestling show opposing WWE on Monday's last nights RAW prob would have had a 1.4 rating.

 

[zeroapoc]

It's still trending a day later.

 

[runawayboulder]

It's still trending a day later.

Good. I hope it trends all week.

Another notable item from today is speculation that Lesnar is unhappy.

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/201...-lesnar-not-being-used-at-last-night-wwe-raw/

Naturally most people online think he doesn't want to work with Reigns fearing his match getting booed like crazy a la WM20.

 

[E-Man]

It totally went down like this:

Paige entrance

Commercial

Sting video Promo (while Paige was still in the ring for nearly 10 min. At some point Emma joined her)

Bellas entrance

Bell rings. Brie knocks Paige off the apron, Emma goes to check on her. Brie jumps her from behind, kick to stomach, X-Factor faceplant, 1-2-3 literally 15 seconds after the bell rang.

It was a complete and utter joke. I'm not big on stuff trending but I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that was annoyed at what they did.

The NXT girls are in such a bad spot. They should be on the main roster tearing it up, but they'd just get wasted on doing nothing like 15 second squashes. TNA would be good if the whole company didn't just sink itself into the toilet because they had a bad ass Knockouts division at one time. Maybe we can all bribe Vince with some good sandwiches to retire.

 

[TheVileOne]

Man The Wrestling Observer has gotten a lot of things wrong recently.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Here's some recent examples of Ambrose's stuff that should be on TV :

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[YT]IW2GVQlTdBg[/YT]
[YT]gbzRo9OtBMA[/YT]

I especially recommend the first one.

See, I'd never see any of these if they weren't posted. I never go on the WWE website.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

#GiveDivasAChance


How about #GiveUsWomensWrestling instead?

In other news, Samoa Joe is coming home!
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Can't wait for the dream match of Samoa Joe vs. Roderick Strong! AMIRITE?!

 

[Slushy]

Supposedly, Brock Lesnar walked out last night due to a business dispute. I guess he found out they were going to cut his pay if he renews. I'd be livid too!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Someone needs to take Corey Graves' Twitter from him.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Good. I hope it trends all week.

Another notable item from today is speculation that Lesnar is unhappy.

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/201...-lesnar-not-being-used-at-last-night-wwe-raw/

Naturally most people online think he doesn't want to work with Reigns fearing his match getting booed like crazy a la WM20.

Brock is a business man, he knows what his bread and butter is and what he's good at, the David vs Goliath match with the best worker on the roster was so obvious and perfect, yet now they expect him to carry a barely over rookie in front of the most vocally critical crowd of the year, which is not his strength suit.